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| Topic | Do you agree with Canada's decision to classify incel attacks as terrorist attac |
| Zeus 05/26/20 7:53:21 PM #42: | Mead posted... Terrorism is terrorism, regardless of the agenda Terrorism is explicitly defined as the use of violence to achieve political aims. So Antifa, which uses violence to achieve political aims, falls very clearly under that umbrella (as well as fascism given their anti-free speech rhetoric). Open-brandishing firearms isn't violence and therefore doesn't rise to that definition, even if the protest is politically motivated. And acts of violence not connected to politics at all -- like this case -- clearly doesn't, either. And if agenda-based violence was enough to constitute terrorism, rioting sports fans would sometimes fit the bill. Blighboy posted... Mead putting Zeus on ignore? You bet your ass that's terrorism Yeah, but now he's not blocking me so I'm "terrorized" by his posts again! supergamer19 posted... Pretty sure some of the infamous attacks by incels qualifies as terrorism, as they ultimately hope for a societal change through mass fear (I'm assuming). Terrorism involves political aims, not simply "societal change;" nor is there any "change" being advocated in many of these attacks. Considering how many attackers associated with the incel movement suffer from mental illness, you might not be even be able to argue any kind of intent at all. Kungfu Kenobi posted... Alek Minassian is absolutely a terrorist. So yes, even if he wasn't charged with terrorism, I would agree with the blanket statement that incel attacks may be terrorist in nature. Just listen to the guy. Listen to him call the Isla Vista shootings, in his own words, a "beta uprising." Listen to him express his belief that if the incels simply murder a certain segment of society then his particular ideological in-group will benefit. He's a violent ideologue by his own account of his own actions. By that logic, all attacks against a "group" are acts of terrorism -- whether it's racism, sports, sexual preferences, etc -- and thus "terrorism" becomes a meaningless term. Kungfu Kenobi posted... And if this latest case is anything like Minassian's then yes he's a terrorist too. Which is hilariously bad speculation, considering the circumstances and how little we know. Kungfu Kenobi posted... Unfortunately there's a lot we don't know about this case. There's a lot we're not allowed to know because the suspect is a minor and Canada has pretty stringent publication laws concerning young offenders. What we do know is that he didn't just pull a pocket knife in a moment of anger. According to a witness who lost a finger in the struggle, he brought a machete to that massage parlor. Which doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't motivated by a moment of anger. --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard! |
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