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Topic	Does Bernie Sanders have too many fringe opinions to actually win the election?
Zeus 02/17/20 12:12:30 AM #90:	slacker03150 posted... Obamacare was a republican healthcare plan. It had 0 republican votes for it and has been attacked ever since. Garland was a moderate choice for the bench. He was still stonewalled. When you already give up your position to fight for the middle the extreme group pulls you further in their direction. We need someone who can fight for the other direction and settle for an actual middle ground. The ACA wasn't a "Republican healthcare plan," which is why Republicans fought against it. It was based on a plan by ONE Republican and it was a plan that wasn't in keeping with the rest of the party. And calling Garland a moderate is laughable, considering he was a staunch opponent of the Second Amendment and that alone should have disqualified him. As for extremes, the Republicans have been the party of capitulation for decades, considering that they've folded repeatedly and betrayed supporters by failing to pursue campaign promises regarding key issues like immigration which is a large part of Trump winning. shipwreckers posted... Well, in defense of both sides, many promises were made under the ACA that were not realistic at all (e.g. "If you like your current health care, you can keep it" / etc.). It wasn't a matter of it not being realistic, it was an outright lie used to push through the controversial legislation. shipwreckers posted... Agreed. If you're gonna to do it, do it right. By trying to straddle the fence, both sides of the aisle got a half-ass solution. Because when you struggle with a lesser thing passed, that's clearly a sign you need to try for something even more extreme that nobody will support! --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:934485992] in Does Berni... [t:78396737]...</cite> <quote>slacker03150 posted... </cite> <quote>Obamacare was a republican healthcare plan. It had 0 republican votes for it and has been attacked ever since. Garland was a moderate choice for the bench. He was still stonewalled. When you already give up your position to fight for the middle the extreme group pulls you further in their direction. We need someone who can fight for the other direction and settle for an actual middle ground.</quote> The ACA wasn't a "Republican healthcare plan," which is why Republicans fought against it. It was based on a plan by ONE Republican and it was a plan that wasn't in keeping with the rest of the party. And calling Garland a moderate is laughable, considering he was a staunch opponent of the Second Amendment and that alone should have disqualified him. As for extremes, the Republicans have been the party of capitulation for decades, considering that they've folded repeatedly and betrayed supporters by failing to pursue campaign promises regarding key issues like immigration which is a large part of Trump winning. shipwreckers posted... </cite> <quote>Well, in defense of both sides, many promises were made under the ACA that were not realistic at all (e.g. "If you like your current health care, you can keep it" / etc.).</quote> It wasn't a matter of it not being realistic, it was an outright lie used to push through the controversial legislation. shipwreckers posted... </cite> <quote>Agreed. If you're gonna to do it, do it right. By trying to straddle the fence, both sides of the aisle got a half-ass solution.</quote> Because when you struggle with a lesser thing passed, that's clearly a sign you need to try for something even more extreme that nobody will support! --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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