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Topic	4 White Kids SUE their MICHIGAN School cause they WON'T let them be RACIST!!!
Zeus 02/13/20 10:40:12 AM #29:	LinkPizza posted... It depends on the rules. Like at my job, one guy got fired for posting bad things about the work place on FB. Technically, I'm in an at-will state. So they can do whatever they want. But there are still probably rules against post negative things about the job. If the school said the rules were to not be racist (in or out of school), and they broke the rules, then the school can punish them, I would think... Public schools and jobs function very differently, and it's silly to try to conflate the two. slacker03150 posted... The supreme Court has upheld that freedom of speech has limits. You can not for instance yell fire in a crowded theatre or openly call for and advocate the harm of a human being. They have also upheld that students at school are further restricted. While they do have freedom of speech, the school must provide a safe learning environment for everyone. That includes being able to punish name calling and bullying on school grounds. The issue with this case is that it happened off campus, but in the interconnected world we have today schools are being pushed to do something about cyber bullying. So if the kids said these on a public forum where any student can see it they would be well within their rights to punish. If they said this in private they would be safe as long as no one had a problem with it and reported it. Which must have happened for them to have seen it. So they were making someone uncomfortable. If a speech isn't illegal, then you haven't hit its limits. The fact that schools are being pushed to "do something" in no way excuses overreach. Finally, and perhaps most importantly, who was the actual complainant? Because it sounds like it wasn't the students who were called the names and instead was other people who saw the remarks? Granted, either way, why should this be treated differently than other trash-talking between students that the school doesn't attempt to stop? --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:934319757] in 4 White Ki... [t:78401557]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>It depends on the rules. Like at my job, one guy got fired for posting bad things about the work place on FB. Technically, I'm in an at-will state. So they can do whatever they want. But there are still probably rules against post negative things about the job. If the school said the rules were to not be racist (in or out of school), and they broke the rules, then the school can punish them, I would think...</quote> Public schools and jobs function very differently, and it's silly to try to conflate the two. slacker03150 posted... </cite> <quote>The supreme Court has upheld that freedom of speech has limits. You can not for instance yell fire in a crowded theatre or openly call for and advocate the harm of a human being. They have also upheld that students at school are further restricted. While they do have freedom of speech, the school must provide a safe learning environment for everyone. That includes being able to punish name calling and bullying on school grounds. The issue with this case is that it happened off campus, but in the interconnected world we have today schools are being pushed to do something about cyber bullying. So if the kids said these on a public forum where any student can see it they would be well within their rights to punish. If they said this in private they would be safe as long as no one had a problem with it and reported it. Which must have happened for them to have seen it. So they were making someone uncomfortable.</quote> If a speech isn't illegal, then you haven't hit its limits. The fact that schools are being pushed to "do something" in no way excuses overreach. Finally, and perhaps most importantly, who was the actual complainant? Because it sounds like it wasn't the students who were called the names and instead was other people who saw the remarks? Granted, either way, why should this be treated differently than other trash-talking between students that the school doesn't attempt to stop? --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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