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Topic	Is it really fair for MtF trans athletes to compete in women's sports?
Zeus 10/22/19 1:42:44 PM #73:	PK_Spam posted... A big part of the issue is that trans people literally cant even do shit in sports, much less break records, without transphobes being like tHeY cAn OnLy Do ThAt BeCaUsE tHeYrE a MaN!!!1!1! Before we even touch the issue of do trans men have an advantage over cis women, we need to address the elephant in the room of the fact that MUCH of this criticism comes from people who already have a bone to pick with trans people just for actually being alive. I am not trans nor am Im really a sports person, so me weighing in on this issue is kinda fraught. But people really need to get theirs heads out of their asses and address their own shit, and the myriad of issues in the sports industry with mens sports now, instead of pulling hypothetical men are just better than womenzzzzz arguments with no data other than men more muscular ...or, in other words, "let's not discuss the validity of the issue, let's attack the people making the criticism." There's a term for that, come to think of it. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem PK_Spam posted... with no data other than men more muscular https://www.worlddata.info/average-bodyheight.php https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8477683 Because apparently size, muscle mass, and body chemistry aren't a factor in sports, who knew? After all, things like a reach advantage, greater speed, and greater physical strength don't win sports, right? XD --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:929096890] in Is it real... [t:78102747]...</cite> <quote>PK_Spam posted...</cite> <quote>A big part of the issue is that trans people literally cant even do shit in sports, much less break records, without transphobes being like tHeY cAn OnLy Do ThAt BeCaUsE tHeYrE a MaN!!!1!1! Before we even touch the issue of do trans men have an advantage over cis women, we need to address the elephant in the room of the fact that MUCH of this criticism comes from people who already have a bone to pick with trans people just for actually being alive. I am not trans nor am Im really a sports person, so me weighing in on this issue is kinda fraught. But people really need to get theirs heads out of their asses and address their own shit, and the myriad of issues in the sports industry with mens sports now, instead of pulling hypothetical men are just better than womenzzzzz arguments with no data other than men more muscular </quote> ...or, in other words, "let's not discuss the validity of the issue, let's attack the people making the criticism." There's a term for that, come to think of it. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem PK_Spam posted...</cite> <quote>with no data other than men more muscular</quote> https://www.worlddata.info/average-bodyheight.php https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8477683 Because apparently size, muscle mass, and body chemistry aren't a factor in sports, who knew? After all, things like a reach advantage, greater speed, and greater physical strength don't win sports, right? XD --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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