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Topic	Would you rather have real warp zones or checkpoints?
ParanoidObsessive 10/20/19 4:32:08 AM #6:	Then you also get into the same philosophical questions that come into play when people discuss teleporting technology that works like a Star Trek transporter (for both checkpoints/respawn AND fast travel/warp points). If the technology glitches and creates a respawn copy while the original is still alive, how do you determine which is the "real" person, and what sort of right to exist would either the copy or the original possess? And is the "copy" even YOU in any meaningful sense, or an entirely new person created based on your template, but the you that was YOU was still dead and gone forever the moment you died the first time? Do souls exist, and can they transmigrate from body to body, or does every copy wind up being some sort of hollow soulless shell that will never truly be as complete as the original was? I'd personally be well up for warp points if they actually involved travel through some sort of well-understood hyperspace reality (and not some "Oops, we didn't realize it was actually a hell dimension" sort of bullshit) where continuity of existence is maintained (so the same ME that goes in is the same ME that comes out, not a copy reconstructed on the subatomic level at the destination point). But I'd avoid deconstruction/reconstruction teleportation like the plague, because I tend to be of the mindset that personal awareness is a function of existing framework, which means even a perfect copy of me with every single memory, personality trait, and habit still isn't ME. The real me dies the moment the teleporter takes me apart for the first time, and some other guy wearing my face and thinking my thoughts appears on the other end to take over my life. I sort of feel the same way about respawning. If we're talking metaphysical rewinding of the universe where it's technically the same ME waking up in the past and the future hasn't technically happened yet, that would be awesome if I had some degree of control over it and could turn it off if I wanted to (as opposed to being trapped in a Groundhog Day loop or something like Edge of Tomorrow/Live Die Repeat). But if all you're doing is digitally reconstructing my body at a designated respawn point whenever I die then I feel like the real ME is still laying dead in a puddle of his own blood somewhere and all you're really doing is spooling up a copy to take my place. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:928998303] in Would you ... [t:78098434]...</cite> <quote>Then you also get into the same philosophical questions that come into play when people discuss teleporting technology that works like a Star Trek transporter (for both checkpoints/respawn AND fast travel/warp points). If the technology glitches and creates a respawn copy while the original is still alive, how do you determine which is the "real" person, and what sort of right to exist would either the copy or the original possess? And is the "copy" even YOU in any meaningful sense, or an entirely new person created based on your template, but the you that was YOU was still dead and gone forever the moment you died the first time? Do souls exist, and can they transmigrate from body to body, or does every copy wind up being some sort of hollow soulless shell that will never truly be as complete as the original was? I'd personally be well up for warp points if they actually involved travel through some sort of well-understood hyperspace reality (and not some "Oops, we didn't realize it was actually a hell dimension" sort of bullshit) where continuity of existence is maintained (so the same ME that goes in is the same ME that comes out, not a copy reconstructed on the subatomic level at the destination point). But I'd avoid deconstruction/reconstruction teleportation like the plague, because I tend to be of the mindset that personal awareness is a function of existing framework, which means even a perfect copy of me with every single memory, personality trait, and habit still isn't ME. The real me dies the moment the teleporter takes me apart for the first time, and some other guy wearing my face and thinking my thoughts appears on the other end to take over my life. I sort of feel the same way about respawning. If we're talking metaphysical rewinding of the universe where it's technically the same ME waking up in the past and the future hasn't technically happened yet, that would be awesome if I had some degree of control over it and could turn it off if I wanted to (as opposed to being trapped in a Groundhog Day loop or something like Edge of Tomorrow/Live Die Repeat). But if all you're doing is digitally reconstructing my body at a designated respawn point whenever I die then I feel like the real ME is still laying dead in a puddle of his own blood somewhere and all you're really doing is spooling up a copy to take my place. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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