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Topic	Why is China so out of touch with the reality?
Aaantlion 10/12/19 5:54:40 PM #47:	Muscles posted... You know South Park uses hyperbole for humor right? They don't tell lies, they take the truth and caricaturize it but keep the core true You're aware that their "truth" tends to vary from actual truth, right? More importantly, the show itself is huge on pushing its view on social issues, etc. Muscles posted... Because all revolutions end in fascism? HK can't beat China, that revolution just isn't happening. I'm talking about the end of communism with something that actually might be likely if communism ended or eventually went far enough in that direction. Muscles posted... Because all revolutions end in fascism? I mean they are pretty much the same anyways, at worst it would get marginally worse but it could get a lot fucking better than a 3rd world shit hole the citizens are forced into lolwut? China is 2nd-world, not 3rd. And while it has its problems, the difference between China and actual third world nations is far more significant than the difference between the US and China at this point. (I'd say excluding the poor rural villages, but the US also has those.) Muscles posted... How evil do they have to be before someone else intervenes? Considering they're not even being as brutally repressive as the US has historically been, I'd say it's an insincere question. More importantly, China's military power makes "just intervening" about as likely as any other nation physically intervening when the US mistreats its citizens. The only intervention is likely to be sanctions. Unbridled9 posted... Because all revolutions end in fascism? I mean they are pretty much the same anyways, at worst it would get marginally worse but it could get a lot fucking better than a 3rd world shit hole the citizens are forced into I want to add that, no, the revolution did not replace the monarchy. They came about after it had already fallen and China was under the control of the Japanese. Mao's revolution was MUCH worse since it resulted in millions of deaths, economic deprivation, and general terribleness all around. Even if you are massively pro-communism there is little to deny that things were worse for China under Mao than under the Emperors. If Mao's communism had remained in place it's likely that China would still be basically a third world nation as chinese peasents tried to make steel in their back yards. It was only following the loosening of the old communist ideals that a bit of prosperity could even begin in their nation. Even now China is still a terrible country to live in in terms of service unless you are in one of the more industrial areas. Go out west into the more rural areas, or even just slightly away from major cities, and the QoL drops MASSIVELY! You might want to try watching some China Uncensored on Youtube. If you actually wanted to learn about China, you shouldn't watch a glaring propagandist who peddles in conspiracy theories. Unbridled9 posted... Go out west into the more rural areas, or even just slightly away from major cities, and the QoL drops MASSIVELY! You say that, but you forget the US's rural woes, among other problems. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| Scientists are finally waking up to what pyramids have known all along. <cite>Aaantlion posted [p:928683392] in Why is Chi... [t:78071371]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted...</cite> <quote>You know South Park uses hyperbole for humor right? They don't tell lies, they take the truth and caricaturize it but keep the core true</quote> You're aware that their "truth" tends to vary from actual truth, right? More importantly, the show itself is huge on pushing its view on social issues, etc. Muscles posted...</cite> <quote>Because all revolutions end in fascism?</quote> HK can't beat China, that revolution just isn't happening. I'm talking about the end of communism with something that actually might be likely if communism ended or eventually went far enough in that direction. Muscles posted...</cite> <quote>Because all revolutions end in fascism? I mean they are pretty much the same anyways, at worst it would get marginally worse but it could get a lot fucking better than a 3rd world shit hole the citizens are forced into</quote> lolwut? China is 2nd-world, not 3rd. And while it has its problems, the difference between China and actual third world nations is far more significant than the difference between the US and China at this point. (I'd say excluding the poor rural villages, but the US also has those.) Muscles posted...</cite> <quote>How evil do they have to be before someone else intervenes?</quote> Considering they're not even being as brutally repressive as the US has historically been, I'd say it's an insincere question. More importantly, China's military power makes "just intervening" about as likely as any other nation physically intervening when the US mistreats its citizens. The only intervention is likely to be sanctions. Unbridled9 posted...</cite> <quote>Because all revolutions end in fascism? I mean they are pretty much the same anyways, at worst it would get marginally worse but it could get a lot fucking better than a 3rd world shit hole the citizens are forced into I want to add that, no, the revolution did not replace the monarchy. They came about after it had already fallen and China was under the control of the Japanese. Mao's revolution was MUCH worse since it resulted in millions of deaths, economic deprivation, and general terribleness all around. Even if you are massively pro-communism there is little to deny that things were worse for China under Mao than under the Emperors. If Mao's communism had remained in place it's likely that China would still be basically a third world nation as chinese peasents tried to make steel in their back yards. It was only following the loosening of the old communist ideals that a bit of prosperity could even begin in their nation. Even now China is still a terrible country to live in in terms of service unless you are in one of the more industrial areas. Go out west into the more rural areas, or even just slightly away from major cities, and the QoL drops MASSIVELY! You might want to try watching some China Uncensored on Youtube.</quote> If you actually wanted to learn about China, you shouldn't watch a glaring propagandist who peddles in conspiracy theories. Unbridled9 posted...</cite> <quote>Go out west into the more rural areas, or even just slightly away from major cities, and the QoL drops MASSIVELY!</quote> You say that, but you forget the US's rural woes, among other problems. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| Scientists are finally waking up to what pyramids have known all along.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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