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The Mana Sword posted...

wait when did we get 4 more angry democrats

I think he increased the number a few days ago. Within the last week. No clue why.

Re: Trump/Russia

In my opinion, Trump is essentially the logical progression of a process started at least as far back as the Southern Strategy, with occasional acceleration provided by things like the Republican Revolution of 1994 and the conservative reaction to Obama. So, in that sense, yes, there are underlying conditions here that led to this present that have been around long before Trump. To list a handful of them: nationalism, xenophobia, racism, and populism. Obviously these will still be around even after Trump leaves office and they are things that need to be addressed.

However, I do rather strongly disagree with the idea that that means the Russian meddling in the election (and political discourse at large) are not also a big deal and a major problem that need to be addressed and reckoned with. Obviously they placed a large focus on exacerbating the existing divides within American culture and that state only existed because those divides were there previously, but I'd argue that Trump's election is itself another acceleration on that progression I noted earlier. Already we've seen the separation of families and allegations of abuse within those camps, the emboldening of white supremacists and nationalists as with Charlottesville, and the erosion of American credibility on the world stage (which for better or worse also makes it much, much harder for future administrations to undo the damage.)

Yeah, ultimately it's going to come down to Mueller's findings and then Congress, but I don't believe we can really effectively begin to even try to address the underlying issues with Trump in office and the GOP in full control of the government. And since Congress (nominally) responds to the pressure of the general electorate, it is important that the public is kept informed and engaged on this issue. I mean, in a sense, Guliani gave away the game weeks (months?) back when he said in an interview that the jury would be the American people.

I feel like I had more to say here but lost my train of thought somewhere along the way.

pxlated posted...

Trump isn't the result of just one thing though. He isn't just a Republican problem. The democrats are part of how we got here too, and not just because of dealing with a Republican problem poorly. They are directly complicit in getting us here too.

Can you elaborate? The Democrats certainly have their faults but what is their role in Trump specifically?
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