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Topic	2 XBOX One Gamers plead NOT GUILTY to SWATTING that led to a Man KILLED!!!
Zeus 06/15/18 1:10:41 PM #37:	Given all of the documentation and confessions, it's kinda ballsy that they'd still plead not guilty instead of just taking a plea. Full Throttle posted... Both teens were not arrested but were issued a summoning to appear in court as they remain free on 10,000 bond each and ordered to find a JOB and to NOT play online video games or have contact with witnesses tbh, crazy shit happens when people have too much free time on their hands. Full Throttle posted... Do you think Swatting should be a prison offense? Duh? streamofthesky posted... The douchebag unidentified cop who immediately opened fire on an unarmed innocent man: Life in prison The cop was responding to a call where he was told that there was petrol sprayed throughout the house and the guy was thinking of lighting it and killing the hostages inside. He issued an order for the suspect to raise his hands then the suspect dropped them to his side. Given that he was given bad information and the suspect ignored his order, it wasn't entirely unreasonable for him to shoot. Your idea of a life prison sentence despite an absence of malice and in response to what was purported a legitimate threat is completely unreasonable, reactionary, and just silly. The people responsible for the death are the ones involved in putting in the fake call. Even the 911 operator, who passed it along as a real tip, doesn't deserve legal action. And the idea that a cop responding within his duties to a call should warrant life in prison when actual, premeditated murderers don't even get that long a sentence --- nor should they (because we live in a civilized nation, not some third-world shithole) -- is fucking absurd and illustrative of the hatred towards cops in this country. SKARDAVNELNATE posted... Is the judge also going to order a better economy? Unemployment is under 4%. It'd be difficult to get a better economy. Kyuubi4269 posted... In a hostage situation they need to be less trigger happy, not more. In a hostage situation, he risked shooting a hostage and scaring the hostage-taker in to killing the rest. The officer was criminally negligent in a delicate situation. That makes zero sense considering that the alleged hostage-taker was standing at the door. If anything, cop presence might convince the taker to kill everybody and that could have been the only clean shot they'd get. Had it been a real incident, the hostage-taker would have likely just killed everybody because they figured it was all over. Kyuubi4269 posted... Andrew is dead because of an unlawful act on the part of the officer. No, he's dead because two punks put a hit out on the wrong guy. Out of everybody involved -- Mr. Fake Address, the client, the Swatter, the dispatcher, the cop, and the suspect/victim -- the cop came the closest to responding appropriately since he was given bad information by dispatch and dealt with an allegedly dangerous suspect who disobeyed orders adjl posted... If anything, the cop is the only one who has any chance of justifying his actions, given the only information his team had to work with. This. Even the dispatcher has less justification because that call sounded all kinds of flaky. Dispatch should have given better information in light of that fact to the cop although, even then, it would still need to be approached seriously just in case. The two mostly at fault are the swatter (who, given his history, needs to go away for a long time) and the guy who took out the contract, with the guy who gave a fake address (knowing what was going to happen) being the third-most at fault. These systems are designed to respond to legitimate threats so fake tips fuck things up. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:903315506] in 2 XBOX One... [t:76715280]...</cite> <quote>Given all of the documentation and confessions, it's kinda ballsy that they'd still plead not guilty instead of just taking a plea. <cite>Full Throttle posted...</cite> <quote>Both teens were not arrested but were issued a summoning to appear in court as they remain free on 10,000 bond each and ordered to find a JOB and to NOT play online video games or have contact with witnesses</quote> tbh, crazy shit happens when people have too much free time on their hands. <cite>Full Throttle posted...</cite> <quote>Do you think Swatting should be a prison offense?</quote> Duh? <cite>streamofthesky posted...</cite> <quote>The douchebag unidentified cop who immediately opened fire on an unarmed innocent man: Life in prison</quote> The cop was responding to a call where he was told that there was petrol sprayed throughout the house and the guy was thinking of lighting it and killing the hostages inside. He issued an order for the suspect to raise his hands then the suspect dropped them to his side. Given that he was given bad information and the suspect ignored his order, it wasn't entirely unreasonable for him to shoot. Your idea of a life prison sentence despite an absence of malice and in response to what was purported a legitimate threat is completely unreasonable, reactionary, and just silly. The people responsible for the death are the ones involved in putting in the fake call. Even the 911 operator, who passed it along as a real tip, doesn't deserve legal action. And the idea that a cop responding within his duties to a call should warrant life in prison when actual, premeditated murderers don't even get that long a sentence --- nor should they (because we live in a civilized nation, not some third-world shithole) -- is fucking absurd and illustrative of the hatred towards cops in this country. <cite>SKARDAVNELNATE posted...</cite> <quote>Is the judge also going to order a better economy?</quote> Unemployment is under 4%. It'd be difficult to get a better economy. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>In a hostage situation they need to be less trigger happy, not more. In a hostage situation, he risked shooting a hostage and scaring the hostage-taker in to killing the rest. The officer was criminally negligent in a delicate situation.</quote> That makes zero sense considering that the alleged hostage-taker was standing at the door. If anything, cop presence might convince the taker to kill everybody and that could have been the only clean shot they'd get. Had it been a real incident, the hostage-taker would have likely just killed everybody because they figured it was all over. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Andrew is dead because of an unlawful act on the part of the officer.</quote> No, he's dead because two punks put a hit out on the wrong guy. Out of everybody involved -- Mr. Fake Address, the client, the Swatter, the dispatcher, the cop, and the suspect/victim -- the cop came the closest to responding appropriately since he was given bad information by dispatch and dealt with an allegedly dangerous suspect who disobeyed orders <cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote> If anything, the cop is the only one who has any chance of justifying his actions, given the only information his team had to work with. </quote> This. Even the dispatcher has less justification because that call sounded all kinds of flaky. Dispatch should have given better information in light of that fact to the cop although, even then, it would still need to be approached seriously just in case. The two mostly at fault are the swatter (who, given his history, needs to go away for a long time) and the guy who took out the contract, with the guy who gave a fake address (knowing what was going to happen) being the third-most at fault. These systems are designed to respond to legitimate threats so fake tips fuck things up. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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