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The Wave Master posted...

Leia rips him a new one and tells him that he's an idiot. I mean he is, but idiots are idiots and usually do something stupid, and if unchecked will do further stupid things. Poe does, which sends Rose and Finn on a stupid and unnecessary trip to Star Wars Monte Carlo.

Leia also spells it out pretty clearly why she treats him the way she does. Because she's fully aware she's old and probably going to die soon, and is trying to establish future leaders for the Resistance. This is underlined when they go out of their way to have her getting mopey about their losses (which they're having a harder and harder time replacing), and to point out that half the leaders in the Resistance are apparently still people who were leaders in the Rebellion (and who they then kill off to clear the board).

She wants to groom Poe for a leadership role, and even though he's young and impulsive, she sees potential in him. So she tries to explain why he's wrong rather than simply lock him in the brig until she can run a court martial. But then she gets blown up and Laura "Can't Stop Smirking" Dern doesn't have time for his shit.

As for unnecessary trip to Star Wars Monte Carlo, that just felt like yet another attempt to recapture the magic of the Cantina scene (even the orchestration is similar), which, like every other attempt, completely failed.



The Wave Master posted...

Here's my problem. If Holdo tells that idiot Poe the plan when she had a chance instead of keeping him in the dark, which clearly wasn't smart or Leia's wishes, then we don't have a middle of the movie. A simple conversation and we don't have 50 minutes of a movie.

Presumably, by that point she was already under a ton of stress because she was already planning her own suicide run, and had neither the time nor the patience for his bullshit.

And arguably, if she KNEW Leia was grooming him for leadership, it's possible she didn't even remotely anticipate that he'd try and lead a mutiny and almost screw everything up.

But honestly, the biggest problem with those scenes is that, in any real military, there's not a ton of commanding officers who are in the habit of explaining every facet of their plans to minor sub-lieutenants, or letting them badmouth them on the bridge of their ship in the middle of a crisis situation. He probably should have been in the brig after their first interaction, and definitely after the second one.

And really, it's not as if this is the only film - good or bad - where the main characters have to spontaneously be stupid in some way to make the plot happen. It's not even the first Star Wars plot where 80% of the trouble could have been avoided if people actually sat down and had a conversation.


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