Poll of the Day > Geekmasters: Now in 4D

Topic List	Page List: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 10
The Wave Master 05/31/18 8:37:55 AM #1:	In the beginning there was Geek. And it was good. However, POTD was lifeless and without form. Then one day, a group of mortals, stronger together, weaker apart, came together with a single idea. What if there was a place, a topic, where we could discuss the nerd events of the day without fear of politics, religion, sports, only wrestling, never interfering with that dream? Then the geek topics were born. And it was good. Damn good. You know the rules. Post anything Geek related. As per geektradition we have an opening question to keep the topic going. "If you had three super powers, not just one or even two, what would they be?" Bonus question: "Good or bad, it's your choice, what would your arch enemy be like. Describe his or her powers." Wrap up from: Geektivus in the upcoming post. --- We are who we choose to be. <cite>The Wave Master posted [p:902299187] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote>In the beginning there was Geek. And it was good. However, POTD was lifeless and without form. Then one day, a group of mortals, stronger together, weaker apart, came together with a single idea. What if there was a place, a topic, where we could discuss the nerd events of the day without fear of politics, religion, sports, only wrestling, never interfering with that dream? Then the geek topics were born. And it was good. Damn good. You know the rules. Post anything Geek related. As per geektradition we have an opening question to keep the topic going. "If you had three super powers, not just one or even two, what would they be?" Bonus question: "Good or bad, it's your choice, what would your arch enemy be like. Describe his or her powers." Wrap up from: Geektivus in the upcoming post.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyborgSage00x0 05/31/18 3:02:00 PM #2:	Cybrog here, checking in! --- PotD's resident Film Expert. <cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted [p:902318160] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote>Cybrog here, checking in!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shadowsword87 05/31/18 6:16:41 PM #3:	Just post'n to keep on my AMP. --- ImmortalityV, "I would like to kiss Icoyar to be honest in a non gay way though" <cite>shadowsword87 posted [p:902328657] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote>Just post'n to keep on my AMP.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knivesX2004 05/31/18 7:35:36 PM #4:	The Wave Master posted... "If you had three super powers, not just one or even two, what would they be?" Bonus question: "Good or bad, it's your choice, what would your arch enemy be like. Describe his or her powers." The three best powers imo are (in no order): Flight, Time Control, Invisibility. As somebody afraid of heights flight would be incredible. (I'm not afraid on airplanes or rollercoasters) I picked these powers because I'd be able to go wherever I wanted, whenever I wanted, and watch whatever I wanted. I'd basically just watch the history of the world like a tv show. Skipping parts I don't like, rewinding, etc. I like history so I could probably do that for about 5 years I think. Then I guess fast forward through America's future for a few decades and see what we're up to. My arch enemy:Immortality, Time Travel, Telepathy. They would definitely be somebody immortal so they could be everywhere/whenever I travel. They'd probably also be constantly interfering with the past, so probably another time traveler. And finally they would have to piss me off a whole bunch. Mind Reading, but also powerful like Jean Grey so I'm changing it to Telepathy. Always hearing a voice in my head, knowing what to say to piss me off. Constantly finding ways to ruin the past while I'm watching it by forcing me to interfere to save history. <cite>knivesX2004 posted [p:902332693] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Wave Master posted...</cite> <quote>"If you had three super powers, not just one or even two, what would they be?" Bonus question: "Good or bad, it's your choice, what would your arch enemy be like. Describe his or her powers."</quote> The three best powers imo are (in no order): Flight, Time Control, Invisibility. As somebody afraid of heights flight would be incredible. (I'm not afraid on airplanes or rollercoasters) I picked these powers because I'd be able to go wherever I wanted, whenever I wanted, and watch whatever I wanted. I'd basically just watch the history of the world like a tv show. Skipping parts I don't like, rewinding, etc. I like history so I could probably do that for about 5 years I think. Then I guess fast forward through America's future for a few decades and see what we're up to. My arch enemy:Immortality, Time Travel, Telepathy. They would definitely be somebody immortal so they could be everywhere/whenever I travel. They'd probably also be constantly interfering with the past, so probably another time traveler. And finally they would have to piss me off a whole bunch. Mind Reading, but also powerful like Jean Grey so I'm changing it to Telepathy. Always hearing a voice in my head, knowing what to say to piss me off. Constantly finding ways to ruin the past while I'm watching it by forcing me to interfere to save history.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 05/31/18 7:42:00 PM #5:	I have a extra question for the class, in honor of the new topic: Hypothetically, science perfects human-form robots, and they become cheap enough that many people own one (and they are tested enough that we're sure they won't go defective or try and kill us all). The only condition is that, for socio-political legal reasons we won't get into, every robot needs to be cast in the likeness of its owner (and it will look exactly like you). Also, for utility purposes, the robot will be programmed with an artificial personality similar to your own, and will be programmed with a copy of your memories, but will NOT (as far as you know) have self-awareness or motivation of its own. Someone (who isn't important - it could be someone you know, your employer, or even part of a contest) offers to buy you a free robot (or maybe the robots just become so cheap and ubiquitous that pretty much anyone can buy them for almost no cost). If you accept it, you can basically have it do whatever tasks you wish, whether incredibly menial labor like cooking and cleaning, more advanced tasks, or pretty much anything that you can think of that a absolute slave could do. Would you want one? Or would it be too creepy for you for whatever reasons might motivate you? Bonus Question: ~~Would you have sex with it?~~ Second Bonus Question: ~~Would you have sex with it if it still acted like you and had your memories, but looked like a very attractive individual of whichever sex you are usually attracted to?~~ --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:902332964] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote>I have a extra question for the class, in honor of the new topic: Hypothetically, science perfects human-form robots, and they become cheap enough that many people own one (and they are tested enough that we're sure they won't go defective or try and kill us all). The only condition is that, for socio-political legal reasons we won't get into, every robot needs to be cast in the likeness of its owner (and it will look exactly like you). Also, for utility purposes, the robot will be programmed with an artificial personality similar to your own, and will be programmed with a copy of your memories, but will NOT (as far as you know) have self-awareness or motivation of its own. Someone (who isn't important - it could be someone you know, your employer, or even part of a contest) offers to buy you a free robot (or maybe the robots just become so cheap and ubiquitous that pretty much anyone can buy them for almost no cost). If you accept it, you can basically have it do whatever tasks you wish, whether incredibly menial labor like cooking and cleaning, more advanced tasks, or pretty much anything that you can think of that a absolute slave could do. Would you want one? Or would it be too creepy for you for whatever reasons might motivate you? Bonus Question: Would you have sex with it? Second Bonus Question: Would you have sex with it if it still acted like you and had your memories, but looked like a very attractive individual of whichever sex you are usually attracted to? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyborgSage00x0 05/31/18 7:51:42 PM #6:	ParanoidObsessive posted... I have a extra question for the class, in honor of the new topic: Hypothetically, science perfects human-form robots, and they become cheap enough that many people own one (and they are tested enough that we're sure they won't go defective or try and kill us all). The only condition is that, for socio-political legal reasons we won't get into, every robot needs to be cast in the likeness of its owner (and it will look exactly like you). Also, for utility purposes, the robot will be programmed with an artificial personality similar to your own, and will be programmed with a copy of your memories, but will NOT (as far as you know) have self-awareness or motivation of its own. Someone (who isn't important - it could be someone you know, your employer, or even part of a contest) offers to buy you a free robot (or maybe the robots just become so cheap and ubiquitous that pretty much anyone can buy them for almost no cost). If you accept it, you can basically have it do whatever tasks you wish, whether incredibly menial labor like cooking and cleaning, more advanced tasks, or pretty much anything that you can think of that a absolute slave could do. Would you want one? Or would it be too creepy for you for whatever reasons might motivate you? This almost sounded like the plot of Surrogates for a second. So basically, you're asking if I'd want a robot clone of me that i would have complete dominion over? Sure, why not? So long as the bot would let it be known that it's exactly that, and not actually me, so there wouldn't be any IRL confusion. I'd probably just use it for chores and stuff like that. Bonus Question: Um, no. Second bonus question: ...Maybe. Depends. I guess so long as I can program the bot to never talk about it, so I don't have to face the fact that I basically just f'd myself. --- PotD's resident Film Expert. <cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted [p:902333459] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote><cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>I have a extra question for the class, in honor of the new topic: Hypothetically, science perfects human-form robots, and they become cheap enough that many people own one (and they are tested enough that we're sure they won't go defective or try and kill us all). The only condition is that, for socio-political legal reasons we won't get into, every robot needs to be cast in the likeness of its owner (and it will look exactly like you). Also, for utility purposes, the robot will be programmed with an artificial personality similar to your own, and will be programmed with a copy of your memories, but will NOT (as far as you know) have self-awareness or motivation of its own. Someone (who isn't important - it could be someone you know, your employer, or even part of a contest) offers to buy you a free robot (or maybe the robots just become so cheap and ubiquitous that pretty much anyone can buy them for almost no cost). If you accept it, you can basically have it do whatever tasks you wish, whether incredibly menial labor like cooking and cleaning, more advanced tasks, or pretty much anything that you can think of that a absolute slave could do. Would you want one? Or would it be too creepy for you for whatever reasons might motivate you?</quote> This almost sounded like the plot of Surrogates for a second. So basically, you're asking if I'd want a robot clone of me that i would have complete dominion over? Sure, why not? So long as the bot would let it be known that it's exactly that, and not actually me, so there wouldn't be any IRL confusion. I'd probably just use it for chores and stuff like that. Bonus Question: Um, no. Second bonus question: ...Maybe. Depends. I guess so long as I can program the bot to never talk about it, so I don't have to face the fact that I basically just f'd myself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knivesX2004 05/31/18 8:03:32 PM #7:	I'd absolutely have a robot me. That would be awesome. I'd have it be my maid and go to family gatherings I don't want to go to. Bonus Question: Yup. Second Bonus Question: Yup. <cite>knivesX2004 posted [p:902334095] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote>I'd absolutely have a robot me. That would be awesome. I'd have it be my maid and go to family gatherings I don't want to go to. Bonus Question: Yup. Second Bonus Question: Yup.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 05/31/18 8:13:18 PM #8:	CyborgSage00x0 posted... This almost sounded like the plot of Surrogates for a second. It was inspired by Detroit: Become Human, but there was at least some flavoring from Multiplicity in there. But the moral and social questions that revolve around having humanform robots that are essentially slaves has always been a common idea in a lot of science fiction. The robots being self-aware makes things even more complicated, but even if they're still just machines that look exactly like humans, it tends to start opening uncomfortable doors in most people's heads. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:902334593] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted...</cite> <quote>This almost sounded like the plot of Surrogates for a second.</quote> It was inspired by Detroit: Become Human, but there was at least some flavoring from Multiplicity in there. But the moral and social questions that revolve around having humanform robots that are essentially slaves has always been a common idea in a lot of science fiction. The robots being self-aware makes things even more complicated, but even if they're still just machines that look exactly like humans, it tends to start opening uncomfortable doors in most people's heads. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 05/31/18 8:19:34 PM #9:	The Wave Master posted... Wrap up from: Geektivus in the upcoming post. Yeah, I think there was like one or two things I was going to grab from the last page or so and reply to, but I don't have time to do it right now. I'll get to it later. MEANWHILE... The Wave Master posted... "If you had three super powers, not just one or even two, what would they be?" Almost from the very first time I ever RPed (in the Marvel Superheroes RPG), my character had Darkforce powers (basically, the ability to see in the dark, summon and control living shadows, teleport from place to play through shadows, turn into shadows, and travel to/through a dimension entirely made up of living shadow). Then, years later, when I was playing Vampire: the Masquerade, the Lasombra rapidly became my favorite clan, and their clan power is pretty much the exact same thing (see in the dark, summon and control living shadows, teleport from place to play through shadows, turn into shadows, and travel to/through a dimension entirely made up of living shadow). That's sort of become my signature go-to. So given a choice, I'd probably go with something like that. On the other hand, my other go-to options in games where I have a lot of freedom tend to be mind control (every mage I ever made in Mage: the Ascension always had high stats in Mind magic, and most of my vampires in Vampire had Dominate and Presence pretty high) or time control (basically, the ability to stop, slow, rewind, fast forward, or even travel through time), so I might go with one of those as well. One off the wall idea I've also had in the past was being able to either animate things in pictures or videos to make them real, or conversely, to sort of project myself into a picture or video so I'm basically in the scene. So I could, theoretically, be trapped on a desert island but still be able to animate pictures of food in a magazine or book and eat it, or warp myself to a lovely beach in Hawaii for a casual vacation whenever I want. The Wave Master posted... Bonus question: "Good or bad, it's your choice" Do I even have to answer this? Let's just assume I'm probably going to wind up the villain that most of the rest of the Geek topic has to fight to save the world. ~~Though, of course, you're all welcome to join me in conquering the world. At least until the inevitable super-villain team-up betrayal when we turn on each other.~~ --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:902334918] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Wave Master posted...</cite> <quote>Wrap up from: Geektivus in the upcoming post.</quote> Yeah, I think there was like one or two things I was going to grab from the last page or so and reply to, but I don't have time to do it right now. I'll get to it later. MEANWHILE... <cite>The Wave Master posted...</cite> <quote>"If you had three super powers, not just one or even two, what would they be?" </quote> Almost from the very first time I ever RPed (in the Marvel Superheroes RPG), my character had Darkforce powers (basically, the ability to see in the dark, summon and control living shadows, teleport from place to play through shadows, turn into shadows, and travel to/through a dimension entirely made up of living shadow). Then, years later, when I was playing Vampire: the Masquerade, the Lasombra rapidly became my favorite clan, and their clan power is pretty much the exact same thing (see in the dark, summon and control living shadows, teleport from place to play through shadows, turn into shadows, and travel to/through a dimension entirely made up of living shadow). That's sort of become my signature go-to. So given a choice, I'd probably go with something like that. On the other hand, my other go-to options in games where I have a lot of freedom tend to be mind control (every mage I ever made in Mage: the Ascension always had high stats in Mind magic, and most of my vampires in Vampire had Dominate and Presence pretty high) or time control (basically, the ability to stop, slow, rewind, fast forward, or even travel through time), so I might go with one of those as well. One off the wall idea I've also had in the past was being able to either animate things in pictures or videos to make them real, or conversely, to sort of project myself into a picture or video so I'm basically in the scene. So I could, theoretically, be trapped on a desert island but still be able to animate pictures of food in a magazine or book and eat it, or warp myself to a lovely beach in Hawaii for a casual vacation whenever I want. <cite>The Wave Master posted...</cite> <quote>Bonus question: "Good or bad, it's your choice"</quote> Do I even have to answer this? Let's just assume I'm probably going to wind up the villain that most of the rest of the Geek topic has to fight to save the world. Though, of course, you're all welcome to join me in conquering the world. At least until the inevitable super-villain team-up betrayal when we turn on each other. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Entity13 05/31/18 9:07:13 PM #10:	I'd have to go with a permanent form - one of a catgirl in her physical peak. That would cover non-aging, super reflexes, and heightened senses. I'd technically be on the side of good, but good is subjective, not to mention that I'd be a force of chaos and change, no matter who's in control. As such my nemesis wold have to be an over-controlling lawful evil with powers to match their controlling nature. --- http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb179/EntityXIII/entityfn7.jpg <cite>Entity13 posted [p:902337503] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote>I'd have to go with a permanent form - one of a catgirl in her physical peak. That would cover non-aging, super reflexes, and heightened senses. I'd technically be on the side of good, but good is subjective, not to mention that I'd be a force of chaos and change, no matter who's in control. As such my nemesis wold have to be an over-controlling lawful evil with powers to match their controlling nature.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Entity13 05/31/18 9:12:16 PM #11:	Also, my boyfriend bought and sent me a book: Neil Gaiman's "Norse Mythology." =^_^= --- http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb179/EntityXIII/entityfn7.jpg <cite>Entity13 posted [p:902337796] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote>Also, my boyfriend bought and sent me a book: Neil Gaiman's "Norse Mythology." =^_^=</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/31/18 9:44:19 PM #12:	Hey guys! Our favorite ex-pro wrestler released a music video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVruAfu53z4" data-time=" >_> Apparently his rapping isn't much better than his wrestling. The video (minus the rapping) is... surprisingly not bad. Hopefully he'll find something he can actually do well, though. The Wave Master posted... "If you had three super powers, not just one or even two, what would they be?" Well, let's see... omnipotence, omniscience, and omnipresence >_> If I went less broken but still pretty broken, probably matter manipulation, time manipulation, and immortality (possibly switching to a spirit form on death where I can use my other powers to restore myself) The Wave Master posted... Bonus question: "Good or bad, it's your choice, what would your arch enemy be like. Describe his or her powers." Well, my arch-enemy would likely be a bastard child who inherited a weaker derivation of my powers and likely bears some kind of grudge either over being abandoned or how I choose to use my powers. They'd likely remember original timelines, be able to follow me through time, and at least have the ability to manipulate their own bodies to transform parts into weapons. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:902339652] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote>Hey guys! Our favorite ex-pro wrestler released a music video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVruAfu53z4" data-time=" >_> Apparently his rapping isn't much better than his wrestling. The video (minus the rapping) is... surprisingly not bad. Hopefully he'll find something he can actually do well, though. <cite>The Wave Master posted...</cite> <quote>"If you had three super powers, not just one or even two, what would they be?" </quote> Well, let's see... omnipotence, omniscience, and omnipresence >_> If I went less broken but still pretty broken, probably matter manipulation, time manipulation, and immortality (possibly switching to a spirit form on death where I can use my other powers to restore myself) <cite>The Wave Master posted...</cite> <quote>Bonus question: "Good or bad, it's your choice, what would your arch enemy be like. Describe his or her powers."</quote> Well, my arch-enemy would likely be a bastard child who inherited a weaker derivation of my powers and likely bears some kind of grudge either over being abandoned or how I choose to use my powers. They'd likely remember original timelines, be able to follow me through time, and at least have the ability to manipulate their own bodies to transform parts into weapons.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/31/18 9:44:24 PM #13:	knivesX2004 posted... As somebody afraid of heights flight would be incredible. (I'm not afraid on airplanes or rollercoasters) Wait, afraid of or not afraid of? >_> knivesX2004 posted... My arch enemy:Immortality, Time Travel, Telepathy. They would definitely be somebody immortal so they could be everywhere/whenever I travel. They'd probably also be constantly interfering with the past, so probably another time traveler. Damnit, kinda the same thing I was thinking. ParanoidObsessive posted... Would you want one? Or would it be too creepy for you for whatever reasons might motivate you? Creepy or not, a free robot is a free robot. ParanoidObsessive posted... Bonus Question: Would you have sex with it? wtf is this, Cracked? Get the hell out of here. ParanoidObsessive posted... Second Bonus Question: Would you have sex with it if it still acted like you and had your memories, but looked like a very attractive individual of whichever sex you are usually attracted to? Not sure how that would work in practice, but probably. ParanoidObsessive posted... But the moral and social questions that revolve around having humanform robots that are essentially slaves has always been a common idea in a lot of science fiction. Pretty much, although you could creatively get around the idea by programming them to be somewhat less than sentient so it feels less like slavery and more like owning a pet or machine. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:902339655] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote><cite>knivesX2004 posted...</cite> <quote>As somebody afraid of heights flight would be incredible. (I'm not afraid on airplanes or rollercoasters) </quote> Wait, afraid of or not afraid of? >_> <cite>knivesX2004 posted...</cite> <quote>My arch enemy:Immortality, Time Travel, Telepathy. They would definitely be somebody immortal so they could be everywhere/whenever I travel. They'd probably also be constantly interfering with the past, so probably another time traveler. </quote> Damnit, kinda the same thing I was thinking. <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote> Would you want one? Or would it be too creepy for you for whatever reasons might motivate you?</quote> Creepy or not, a free robot is a free robot. <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>Bonus Question: Would you have sex with it?</quote> wtf is this, Cracked? Get the hell out of here. <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>Second Bonus Question: Would you have sex with it if it still acted like you and had your memories, but looked like a very attractive individual of whichever sex you are usually attracted to?</quote> Not sure how that would work in practice, but probably. <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>But the moral and social questions that revolve around having humanform robots that are essentially slaves has always been a common idea in a lot of science fiction.</quote> Pretty much, although you could creatively get around the idea by programming them to be somewhat less than sentient so it feels less like slavery and more like owning a pet or machine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 05/31/18 10:05:58 PM #14:	Zeus posted... Hey guys! Our favorite ex-pro wrestler released a music video! I heard that he rhymed "phoenix" with "Phoenix", so now I can't listen to it for fear of cracking my teeth from how hard I grind them together if I hear it. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:902340794] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Hey guys! Our favorite ex-pro wrestler released a music video!</quote> I heard that he rhymed "phoenix" with "Phoenix", so now I can't listen to it for fear of cracking my teeth from how hard I grind them together if I hear it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Wave Master 05/31/18 10:37:30 PM #15:	I watched 2 minutes of that Enzo mess, and turned it off and went to the kitchen to start cooking my dinner. I'm not wasting more time on Enzo Amore. He's a tool and the little talent he has he's wasting it trying to impress his drunk frat boy friends. But my wife will get a kick out of it because she finds him amusing like a train wreck or a dumpster fire. --- We are who we choose to be. <cite>The Wave Master posted [p:902342572] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote>I watched 2 minutes of that Enzo mess, and turned it off and went to the kitchen to start cooking my dinner. I'm not wasting more time on Enzo Amore. He's a tool and the little talent he has he's wasting it trying to impress his drunk frat boy friends. But my wife will get a kick out of it because she finds him amusing like a train wreck or a dumpster fire.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/31/18 10:57:30 PM #16:	ParanoidObsessive posted... Zeus posted... Hey guys! Our favorite ex-pro wrestler released a music video! I heard that he rhymed "phoenix" with "Phoenix", so now I can't listen to it for fear of cracking my teeth from how hard I grind them together if I hear it. Just like all the great rappers of today! =p ~~Apparently it's an industry-wide issue now.~~ The Wave Master posted... But my wife will get a kick out of it because she finds him amusing like a train wreck or a dumpster fire. Unfortunately, I think this dumpster fire has about burned out. The next time we see him will probably be on a reality tv show bringing together has-beens and never-wases. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:902343664] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote><cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Hey guys! Our favorite ex-pro wrestler released a music video!</quote> I heard that he rhymed "phoenix" with "Phoenix", so now I can't listen to it for fear of cracking my teeth from how hard I grind them together if I hear it.</quote> Just like all the great rappers of today! =p Apparently it's an industry-wide issue now. <cite>The Wave Master posted...</cite> <quote>But my wife will get a kick out of it because she finds him amusing like a train wreck or a dumpster fire.</quote> Unfortunately, I think this dumpster fire has about burned out. The next time we see him will probably be on a reality tv show bringing together has-beens and never-wases.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knivesX2004 05/31/18 11:06:19 PM #17:	Zeus posted... Wait, afraid of or not afraid of? >_> Afraid of :( I hate standing on ladders. Zeus posted... Damnit, kinda the same thing I was thinking. Zeus confirmed canon arch enemy. :O <cite>knivesX2004 posted [p:902344176] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Wait, afraid of or not afraid of? >_> </quote> Afraid of :( I hate standing on ladders. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Damnit, kinda the same thing I was thinking. </quote> Zeus confirmed canon arch enemy. :O</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 06/01/18 1:21:24 AM #18:	knivesX2004 posted... Zeus posted... Damnit, kinda the same thing I was thinking. Zeus confirmed canon arch enemy. :O No, I more meant we could go halfsies on an arch-enemy. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:902351020] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote><cite>knivesX2004 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Damnit, kinda the same thing I was thinking. </quote> Zeus confirmed canon arch enemy. :O</quote> No, I more meant we could go halfsies on an arch-enemy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Wave Master 06/01/18 2:10:31 AM #19:	No, I'm sure the next time we see Enzo will be on TMZ for drug possession or for a drug over dose. As for P.O. Yeah, I will take a duplicate me robot. I would have him clean the liter box, wash dishes, fold laundry. Basically Rosie from the Jetsons his existence. No, I'm not interested in having a sexual relationship with my doppelganger robot. --- We are who we choose to be. <cite>The Wave Master posted [p:902352540] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote>No, I'm sure the next time we see Enzo will be on TMZ for drug possession or for a drug over dose. As for P.O. Yeah, I will take a duplicate me robot. I would have him clean the liter box, wash dishes, fold laundry. Basically Rosie from the Jetsons his existence. No, I'm not interested in having a sexual relationship with my doppelganger robot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 06/01/18 2:32:14 AM #20:	The Wave Master posted... No, I'm sure the next time we see Enzo will be on TMZ for drug possession or for a drug over dose. In a year or two, he won't be popular enough to make TMZ. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:902353145] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Wave Master posted...</cite> <quote>No, I'm sure the next time we see Enzo will be on TMZ for drug possession or for a drug over dose. </quote> In a year or two, he won't be popular enough to make TMZ.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 06/01/18 3:09:03 AM #21:	Zeus posted... knivesX2004 posted... Zeus posted... Damnit, kinda the same thing I was thinking. Zeus confirmed canon arch enemy. :O No, I more meant we could go halfsies on an arch-enemy. You're both basically fighting Ivar, the Timewalker. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timewalker --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:902353871] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>knivesX2004 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Damnit, kinda the same thing I was thinking. </quote> Zeus confirmed canon arch enemy. :O</quote> No, I more meant we could go halfsies on an arch-enemy.</quote> You're both basically fighting Ivar, the Timewalker. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timewalker </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WhiskeyDisk 06/01/18 4:43:53 PM #22:	Checking in so I can find later. --- https://imgur.com/4fmtLFt http://s1.zetaboards.com/sba/ ~there's always free cheese in a mousetrap. <cite>WhiskeyDisk posted [p:902384636] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote>Checking in so I can find later.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shadowsword87 06/01/18 6:51:55 PM #23:	Huh, the more and more I talk about smart stuff, I realize I'm just explaining what other people have said badly. --- ImmortalityV, "I would like to kiss Icoyar to be honest in a non gay way though" <cite>shadowsword87 posted [p:902391159] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote>Huh, the more and more I talk about smart stuff, I realize I'm just explaining what other people have said badly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Wave Master 06/01/18 10:26:41 PM #24:	Yesterday Ubisoft, I mean, an Obscure French Website, leaked the next Assasins Creed. The Obscure French Website had a key chain that said, "Assassins Creed Odyssey." My point is that can we just stop pretending that these "leaks" a week before E3, are actually leaks, and instead call them what they are, "Hype Teases." Because nothing in this day and age leaks without the company knowing. Hell, if you look at the article on Kotaku's banner, on their homepage, they admit they knew all of this stuff in Janurary, and didn't report any of it because of fear of embargo. Yet, we are supposed to believe this French Website has Deep Throat type reporters working the hotlines and walking the streets to get a keychain to prove this game does exist. No Freaking Way! Just cut the garbage giant companies. What seals it for me is that all of a sudden. Ubisoft has a trailer up for the new game on Twitter less than 24 hours after the "Leak." It takes days or even weeks to cut together a trailer. It's just annoying. At least to me. --- We are who we choose to be. <cite>The Wave Master posted [p:902401342] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote>Yesterday Ubisoft, I mean, an Obscure French Website, leaked the next Assasins Creed. The Obscure French Website had a key chain that said, "Assassins Creed Odyssey." My point is that can we just stop pretending that these "leaks" a week before E3, are actually leaks, and instead call them what they are, "Hype Teases." Because nothing in this day and age leaks without the company knowing. Hell, if you look at the article on Kotaku's banner, on their homepage, they admit they knew all of this stuff in Janurary, and didn't report any of it because of fear of embargo. Yet, we are supposed to believe this French Website has Deep Throat type reporters working the hotlines and walking the streets to get a keychain to prove this game does exist. No Freaking Way! Just cut the garbage giant companies. What seals it for me is that all of a sudden. Ubisoft has a trailer up for the new game on Twitter less than 24 hours after the "Leak." It takes days or even weeks to cut together a trailer. It's just annoying. At least to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 06/01/18 11:03:22 PM #25:	tbh, it's probably something that's gone on in the industry for a long time but it hasn't always been transparent. And, in Zeus news, I really need to stick to my old habit of just buying one Mystery Mini from any given set (and then just going on the aftermarket for something specific). Bought yet another Thor pack thinking it was Hulk, but it was Heimdahl. Well, unless I find it really cheap. Picked up some of the JL ones for about $2 each at Gamestop, got a Steppenwolf and Barry Allan. For whatever reason, kinda like that set's style better. I still need to watch JL. Oh, plus I stopped in a Toys R Us. They're finally getting serious, since things are marked half off. Unfortunately I missed that Voltron box set although, tbh, that might have been for the best since I'd have to store it somewhere. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:902402922] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote>tbh, it's probably something that's gone on in the industry for a long time but it hasn't always been transparent. And, in Zeus news, I really need to stick to my old habit of just buying one Mystery Mini from any given set (and then just going on the aftermarket for something specific). Bought yet another Thor pack thinking it was Hulk, but it was Heimdahl. Well, unless I find it really cheap. Picked up some of the JL ones for about $2 each at Gamestop, got a Steppenwolf and Barry Allan. For whatever reason, kinda like that set's style better. I still need to watch JL. Oh, plus I stopped in a Toys R Us. They're finally getting serious, since things are marked half off. Unfortunately I missed that Voltron box set although, tbh, that might have been for the best since I'd have to store it somewhere.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Wave Master 06/02/18 8:49:17 AM #26:	I'm not a fan of casting Jamie Foxx as Spawn. I feel it's going to be two hours of him growling and talking with his mouth closed thru his teeth. Speaking of Foxx, my wife told me that he's been dating Katie Holmes for like 5 years. I don't care who anyone dates, it's just funny I didn't know that thus was happening, and for so long too. As for alternative casting choices Winston Duke or Daniel Kaluuya are better choices. --- We are who we choose to be. <cite>The Wave Master posted [p:902417754] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote>I'm not a fan of casting Jamie Foxx as Spawn. I feel it's going to be two hours of him growling and talking with his mouth closed thru his teeth. Speaking of Foxx, my wife told me that he's been dating Katie Holmes for like 5 years. I don't care who anyone dates, it's just funny I didn't know that thus was happening, and for so long too. As for alternative casting choices Winston Duke or Daniel Kaluuya are better choices.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 06/02/18 1:47:03 PM #27:	The Wave Master posted... I'm not a fan of casting Jamie Foxx as Spawn. I feel it's going to be two hours of him growling and talking with his mouth closed thru his teeth. I'm not a fan of casting Jamie Foxx in any action movie these days, after ASM2, White House Down, and -- to a lesser extent -- Django Unchained. Plus if it's a role with a lot of growling and muttered talking, they might as well go with Idris Elba >_> The Wave Master posted... Speaking of Foxx, my wife told me that he's been dating Katie Holmes for like 5 years. I don't care who anyone dates, it's just funny I didn't know that thus was happening, and for so long too. I doubt it's been that long since neither's wikipedia page references it. Granted, it's still surprising that the relationship isn't higher profile but I guess neither one is as big of a name these days as other actors and they're not doing crazy stuff. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:902428658] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Wave Master posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not a fan of casting Jamie Foxx as Spawn. I feel it's going to be two hours of him growling and talking with his mouth closed thru his teeth. </quote> I'm not a fan of casting Jamie Foxx in any action movie these days, after ASM2, White House Down, and -- to a lesser extent -- Django Unchained. Plus if it's a role with a lot of growling and muttered talking, they might as well go with Idris Elba >_> <cite>The Wave Master posted...</cite> <quote>Speaking of Foxx, my wife told me that he's been dating Katie Holmes for like 5 years. I don't care who anyone dates, it's just funny I didn't know that thus was happening, and for so long too.</quote> I doubt it's been that long since neither's wikipedia page references it. Granted, it's still surprising that the relationship isn't higher profile but I guess neither one is as big of a name these days as other actors and they're not doing crazy stuff.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 06/03/18 2:02:40 PM #28:	RPG Update: WotC just announced two new future products for D&D (now that Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes is out, they apparently don't feel like they need to advertise for it anymore). It's basically a paired set of books - "Waterdeep: Dragon Heist" and "Waterdeep: Dungeon of the Mad Mage". Dragon Heist comes out in September, and is an adventure module for 1-5 level players, which is supposed to be a heist (who could ever have guessed?), wherein the DM picks one of four different villains attempting to steal a huge hoard of gold coins, and the PCs have to investigate and stop them from succeeding, with the gameplay emphasis being more on social interaction, RP, and clever thinking more than combat, and with the setting Dungeon of the Mad Mage is an adventure for 6-20 which involves going into Undermountain and basically just dungeon crawling through dozens of levels, with each level being set up in a way to have radically different ecology and allowing for pure combat, but also more clever or manipulative ways to negotiate through without having to kill every monster in your way (and some synergy between certain levels - ie, something you do on floor 3 might alter events once you get to floor 7, and so on). --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:902480277] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote>RPG Update: WotC just announced two new future products for D&D (now that Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes is out, they apparently don't feel like they need to advertise for it anymore). It's basically a paired set of books - "Waterdeep: Dragon Heist" and "Waterdeep: Dungeon of the Mad Mage". Dragon Heist comes out in September, and is an adventure module for 1-5 level players, which is supposed to be a heist (who could ever have guessed?), wherein the DM picks one of four different villains attempting to steal a huge hoard of gold coins, and the PCs have to investigate and stop them from succeeding, with the gameplay emphasis being more on social interaction, RP, and clever thinking more than combat, and with the setting Dungeon of the Mad Mage is an adventure for 6-20 which involves going into Undermountain and basically just dungeon crawling through dozens of levels, with each level being set up in a way to have radically different ecology and allowing for pure combat, but also more clever or manipulative ways to negotiate through without having to kill every monster in your way (and some synergy between certain levels - ie, something you do on floor 3 might alter events once you get to floor 7, and so on). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knivesX2004 06/03/18 2:37:52 PM #29:	Those sound pretty fun. Unfortunately my group (completely new set of players than when we started over 10 years ago) doesn't really role play as much as I'd like, so that heist one is probably a no go :( The dungeon crawl sounds fun. Especially the alternative methods for clearing a floor. I'm always trying to find alternate routes around big ass monsters (if my character is weak) so I might pick that up. Sidenote: I started listening to Protean City podcast. It's a Masks game (using powered by the apocalypse system as a base) and it's pretty good so far. I'm about a quarter of the way caught up. It gives me sometime to listen to when I'm trying to get to sleep. <cite>knivesX2004 posted [p:902481897] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote>Those sound pretty fun. Unfortunately my group (completely new set of players than when we started over 10 years ago) doesn't really role play as much as I'd like, so that heist one is probably a no go :( The dungeon crawl sounds fun. Especially the alternative methods for clearing a floor. I'm always trying to find alternate routes around big ass monsters (if my character is weak) so I might pick that up. Sidenote: I started listening to Protean City podcast. It's a Masks game (using powered by the apocalypse system as a base) and it's pretty good so far. I'm about a quarter of the way caught up. It gives me sometime to listen to when I'm trying to get to sleep.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Wave Master 06/03/18 3:35:44 PM #30:	Any thoughts on why Solo is under performing at the box office? I've been busy so the wife and I haven't made it to the movies since Infinity War. I have an eye appointment tomorrow and then we are going to do a double feature of Deadpool 2 and Solo. Have any of you seen Solo? Still plan to see Solo? Do you even have any interest in Solo, and if you do or do not why? Any thoughts on the lackluster returns? --- We are who we choose to be. <cite>The Wave Master posted [p:902484610] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote>Any thoughts on why Solo is under performing at the box office? I've been busy so the wife and I haven't made it to the movies since Infinity War. I have an eye appointment tomorrow and then we are going to do a double feature of Deadpool 2 and Solo. Have any of you seen Solo? Still plan to see Solo? Do you even have any interest in Solo, and if you do or do not why? Any thoughts on the lackluster returns?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shadowsword87 06/03/18 3:43:32 PM #31:	ParanoidObsessive posted... Dragon Heist comes out in September, and is an adventure module for 1-5 level players, which is supposed to be a heist (who could ever have guessed?), wherein the DM picks one of four different villains attempting to steal a huge hoard of gold coins, and the PCs have to investigate and stop them from succeeding, with the gameplay emphasis being more on social interaction, RP, and clever thinking more than combat, and with the setting Huh, I may grab that to just steal a bunch of ideas from it. I love heist games, but I have never seen it done well. The Wave Master posted... Have any of you seen Solo? Still plan to see Solo? Do you even have any interest in Solo, and if you do or do not why? Any thoughts on the lackluster returns? I never really fell in love with Star Wars like everyone else as a kid, so I watched a few of them while bored and they were on Netflix. Overall were bland and fine for just keeping my attention, but I really didn't like Rogue One (there was a flashback to the start of the movie half an hour in and it killed everything for me). They're just not my thing. --- ImmortalityV, "I would like to kiss Icoyar to be honest in a non gay way though" <cite>shadowsword87 posted [p:902484985] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote><cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>Dragon Heist comes out in September, and is an adventure module for 1-5 level players, which is supposed to be a heist (who could ever have guessed?), wherein the DM picks one of four different villains attempting to steal a huge hoard of gold coins, and the PCs have to investigate and stop them from succeeding, with the gameplay emphasis being more on social interaction, RP, and clever thinking more than combat, and with the setting </quote> Huh, I may grab that to just steal a bunch of ideas from it. I love heist games, but I have never seen it done well. <cite>The Wave Master posted...</cite> <quote>Have any of you seen Solo? Still plan to see Solo? Do you even have any interest in Solo, and if you do or do not why? Any thoughts on the lackluster returns? </quote> I never really fell in love with Star Wars like everyone else as a kid, so I watched a few of them while bored and they were on Netflix. Overall were bland and fine for just keeping my attention, but I really didn't like Rogue One (there was a flashback to the start of the movie half an hour in and it killed everything for me). They're just not my thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knivesX2004 06/04/18 12:09:28 AM #32:	The Wave Master posted... Any thoughts on why Solo is under performing at the box office? I've been busy so the wife and I haven't made it to the movies since Infinity War. I have an eye appointment tomorrow and then we are going to do a double feature of Deadpool 2 and Solo. Have any of you seen Solo? Still plan to see Solo? Do you even have any interest in Solo, and if you do or do not why? Any thoughts on the lackluster returns? It's ok. Not great, not bad. They did a ton of shit I hated and a few things I liked. It's the definition of a rental movie imo. <cite>knivesX2004 posted [p:902509125] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Wave Master posted...</cite> <quote>Any thoughts on why Solo is under performing at the box office? I've been busy so the wife and I haven't made it to the movies since Infinity War. I have an eye appointment tomorrow and then we are going to do a double feature of Deadpool 2 and Solo. Have any of you seen Solo? Still plan to see Solo? Do you even have any interest in Solo, and if you do or do not why? Any thoughts on the lackluster returns?</quote> It's ok. Not great, not bad. They did a ton of shit I hated and a few things I liked. It's the definition of a rental movie imo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 06/04/18 12:39:29 AM #33:	The Wave Master posted... Any thoughts on why Solo is under performing at the box office? Because it's a movie literally no one wanted or was enthusiastic about, showing mere weeks after the biggest movie of the summer. Speaking of which, I finally saw Infinity War. Now, that added to Black Panther means I'm caught up with Marvel movies, and I'm actually finally getting around to watching The Last Jedi (literally as we speak - I'm like 40 minutes into it right now). I'm tempted to go back into the last Geek topic and C&P all the posts talking about those movies that I deliberately ignored to avoid spoilers back when they came out and reply to them now, but I suspect the old topic will have purged before I get around to it, and I'm not entirely sure it's worth bothering (since it would just be rehashing after the fact for the rest of you). The Wave Master posted... Have any of you seen Solo? Still plan to see Solo? Do you even have any interest in Solo, and if you do or do not why? When they originally announced they were going to do Rogue One, Solo, and a presumed Obi-Wan movie, Rogue One was pretty much the only concept I even remotely gave a shit about. Now that they've announced a Boba Fett movie, I'm completely apathetic about that one as well (mostly because I never even remotely cared about him as a character the way so many other people did - gee whiz, he's a fuck up who does one clever thing, says three generic lines, has Vader do him a favor, and then gets eaten by a sand vagina. Kewlest guy evar!). I'm also going to proceed to not give a shit if they ever do the rumored Yoda movie they've sort of implied may be a thing eventually. I think there ARE cool ideas in the Star Wars universe that they can explore in side-stories that would make for worthwhile movies, but I also suspect they'll never have the courage to do them. I also have the fear that even if they do, they'll make the same mistakes the EU did and they'll be terrible anyway. But hey, the last few years have basically had me cutting ties with tons of franchises (or creators of franchises) I used to absolutely love, but which are either completely dead to me now or outright repugnant in their mere existence. So throwing Star Wars onto that particular bonfire wouldn't hurt my feelings all that much. shadowsword87 posted... I never really fell in love with Star Wars like everyone else as a kid It's because you're a child of the Dark Age. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:902510253] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Wave Master posted...</cite> <quote>Any thoughts on why Solo is under performing at the box office?</quote> Because it's a movie literally no one wanted or was enthusiastic about, showing mere weeks after the biggest movie of the summer. Speaking of which, I finally saw Infinity War. Now, that added to Black Panther means I'm caught up with Marvel movies, and I'm actually finally getting around to watching The Last Jedi (literally as we speak - I'm like 40 minutes into it right now). I'm tempted to go back into the last Geek topic and C&P all the posts talking about those movies that I deliberately ignored to avoid spoilers back when they came out and reply to them now, but I suspect the old topic will have purged before I get around to it, and I'm not entirely sure it's worth bothering (since it would just be rehashing after the fact for the rest of you). <cite>The Wave Master posted...</cite> <quote>Have any of you seen Solo? Still plan to see Solo? Do you even have any interest in Solo, and if you do or do not why?</quote> When they originally announced they were going to do Rogue One, Solo, and a presumed Obi-Wan movie, Rogue One was pretty much the only concept I even remotely gave a shit about. Now that they've announced a Boba Fett movie, I'm completely apathetic about that one as well (mostly because I never even remotely cared about him as a character the way so many other people did - gee whiz, he's a fuck up who does one clever thing, says three generic lines, has Vader do him a favor, and then gets eaten by a sand vagina. Kewlest guy evar!). I'm also going to proceed to not give a shit if they ever do the rumored Yoda movie they've sort of implied may be a thing eventually. I think there ARE cool ideas in the Star Wars universe that they can explore in side-stories that would make for worthwhile movies, but I also suspect they'll never have the courage to do them. I also have the fear that even if they do, they'll make the same mistakes the EU did and they'll be terrible anyway. But hey, the last few years have basically had me cutting ties with tons of franchises (or creators of franchises) I used to absolutely love, but which are either completely dead to me now or outright repugnant in their mere existence. So throwing Star Wars onto that particular bonfire wouldn't hurt my feelings all that much. <cite>shadowsword87 posted...</cite> <quote>I never really fell in love with Star Wars like everyone else as a kid</quote> It's because you're a child of the Dark Age. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knivesX2004 06/04/18 2:00:10 AM #34:	ParanoidObsessive posted... I think there ARE cool ideas in the Star Wars universe that they can explore in side-stories that would make for worthwhile movies, Life Day prequel? <cite>knivesX2004 posted [p:902512878] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote><cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>I think there ARE cool ideas in the Star Wars universe that they can explore in side-stories that would make for worthwhile movies, </quote> Life Day prequel?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 06/04/18 3:08:19 AM #35:	Okay, I caved. From last topic: ParanoidObsessive posted... The Wave Master posted... PO if you have seen The Last Jedi I would be interested to hear your opinions I haven't, and may not for a while (while I saw Rogue One in theaters, I actually waited until DVD/On Demand to watch Force Awakens last time around). Though I am sort of making at least somewhat of an effort to avoid spoilers - for example, I mostly skipped over any post in this topic so far that I saw mentioning it - so I have no idea what most of you think about it or said about it (other than Knives and Cyborg, their stances seem pretty obvious). But I'm also not super-bothered about it, so if I wind up accidentally catching some here or there I won't be overly annoyed or anything. That being said, it might be worth noting that I'm about 97% sure that the Internet is childishly overreacting to the movie, and that most of the people whining about how terrible it is are probably wrong, because I have a very low opinion of fandom and the Internet in general. I suspect I'll probably enjoy it well enough when I finally watch it, mainly because the franchise as a whole has long since fallen off any pedestal I might have once put it on. All I really ask from my mediocre space fantasy at this point is to not be as terrible as the prequels (and I suspect that the people rabidly screaming that The Last Jedi is worse than the prequels are being hyperbolic and insane, because it is almost scientifically impossible for anything to be worse than The Phantom Menace). So while I tend to instinctively think Knives is probably right in that particular tete-a-tete with Cyborg, I can't actually say anything definitively until I actually bother watching it. So, commentary now that I've seen it: I kind of still think that most of the backlash is manchildren being manchildren, but I can also see the flaws in it. The main problem with the movie seems to be that it's uneven as fuck (a flaw it shares with Return of the Jedi). Most of the Rey scenes with Luke I actually kind of liked, and the Snoke/Rey scenes were pretty good (but also somewhat derivative... though Ren's unearned turn - whoops, surprise! Still Dark Side, tee hee! moment, which I really liked), and I liked the Luke/Ren stuff at the end... but most of the Finn scenes feel like they have the grim taint of the prequels on them, and that is very, very bad. The overall tone of the movie feels off, but I kind of feel like that's entirely due to the fact that it's 2018, not 1977. If anything, there were parallels in there to how the Marvel movies are structured (and the problem is that it works better in those, less so in this, especially if you're expecting a different tone going in). I think a lot of the backlash comes from Luke being a bitter old fuck, but not only do I kind of think that was almost inevitably where the story HAD to go, I find it far more interesting and worthwhile than if Luke was just Yoda 2.0. I'm also not a huge fan of some of the casting (Laura Dern and Benicio del Toro springing to mind - though it's hard to say if my issues with them are more their own acting or how they were directed, and Carrie Fisher combines the same problem with feeling way too old), but nothing was so hugely jarring that it pulled me out completely, and I think Rey/Finn/Poe/Kylo are all well-casted for the roles they're playing, which helps immensely. Oh, and Phasma was completely wasted, but then again, it feels like her reason for existing is to be completely wasted, so that's nothing new. In the end, it's not the worst Star Wars movie I've ever seen, but it's also admittedly nowhere near the best. Middle of the road, maybe. #5 or #6 out of 10, probably. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:902514648] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote>Okay, I caved. From last topic: <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Wave Master posted...</cite> <quote>PO if you have seen The Last Jedi I would be interested to hear your opinions</quote> I haven't, and may not for a while (while I saw Rogue One in theaters, I actually waited until DVD/On Demand to watch Force Awakens last time around). Though I am sort of making at least somewhat of an effort to avoid spoilers - for example, I mostly skipped over any post in this topic so far that I saw mentioning it - so I have no idea what most of you think about it or said about it (other than Knives and Cyborg, their stances seem pretty obvious). But I'm also not super-bothered about it, so if I wind up accidentally catching some here or there I won't be overly annoyed or anything. That being said, it might be worth noting that I'm about 97% sure that the Internet is childishly overreacting to the movie, and that most of the people whining about how terrible it is are probably wrong, because I have a very low opinion of fandom and the Internet in general. I suspect I'll probably enjoy it well enough when I finally watch it, mainly because the franchise as a whole has long since fallen off any pedestal I might have once put it on. All I really ask from my mediocre space fantasy at this point is to not be as terrible as the prequels (and I suspect that the people rabidly screaming that The Last Jedi is worse than the prequels are being hyperbolic and insane, because it is almost scientifically impossible for anything to be worse than The Phantom Menace). So while I tend to instinctively think Knives is probably right in that particular tete-a-tete with Cyborg, I can't actually say anything definitively until I actually bother watching it.</quote> So, commentary now that I've seen it: I kind of still think that most of the backlash is manchildren being manchildren, but I can also see the flaws in it. The main problem with the movie seems to be that it's uneven as fuck (a flaw it shares with Return of the Jedi). Most of the Rey scenes with Luke I actually kind of liked, and the Snoke/Rey scenes were pretty good (but also somewhat derivative... though Ren's unearned turn - whoops, surprise! Still Dark Side, tee hee! moment, which I really liked), and I liked the Luke/Ren stuff at the end... but most of the Finn scenes feel like they have the grim taint of the prequels on them, and that is very, very bad. The overall tone of the movie feels off, but I kind of feel like that's entirely due to the fact that it's 2018, not 1977. If anything, there were parallels in there to how the Marvel movies are structured (and the problem is that it works better in those, less so in this, especially if you're expecting a different tone going in). I think a lot of the backlash comes from Luke being a bitter old fuck, but not only do I kind of think that was almost inevitably where the story HAD to go, I find it far more interesting and worthwhile than if Luke was just Yoda 2.0. I'm also not a huge fan of some of the casting (Laura Dern and Benicio del Toro springing to mind - though it's hard to say if my issues with them are more their own acting or how they were directed, and Carrie Fisher combines the same problem with feeling way too old), but nothing was so hugely jarring that it pulled me out completely, and I think Rey/Finn/Poe/Kylo are all well-casted for the roles they're playing, which helps immensely. Oh, and Phasma was completely wasted, but then again, it feels like her reason for existing is to be completely wasted, so that's nothing new. In the end, it's not the worst Star Wars movie I've ever seen, but it's also admittedly nowhere near the best. Middle of the road, maybe. #5 or #6 out of 10, probably. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 06/04/18 3:08:27 AM #36:	So yeah. My opinion of the movie might change on future viewings (and I would certainly fast-forward through most Finn scenes the same way I fast-forward through most of Endor when watching RotJ), but it is what it is. I can also see people who dislike it because it doesn't feel like a Star Wars movie to them, or because it's not the sort of movie they wanted, but to be honest, it was never going to be that movie, and I don't think it can ever be that sort of movie again. And as long as Disney's going to keep cranking out movies in the franchise for the next 437 years, we either need to adapt to that new reality or just stop caring about the franchise entirely. CyborgSage00x0 posted... I liked it way better than TFA, mostly because it didn't completely ape Empire, but I still found it to be riddled with flaws and ultimately frustrating. And with nothing but the climax left in IX, I feel safe to say that this trilogy is a disappointment for me. I kind of like both, for different reasons, in different ways. But if TFA felt too much like A New Hope for many people, TLJ parallels RotJ in a lot of ways (not all of them good), albeit with a bittersweet Empire-flavored ending. If we assume the next film continues mimicking the original trilogy, then maybe we'll get a movie that hits the same sort of beats Empire did, only with a happy ending. And I could probably live with that. I wouldn't say this trilogy is a disappointment for me, but then again, I never really had high hopes for it in the first place. And it's still better than the prequels so far (though that isn't hard). CyborgSage00x0 posted... It's suffering from something I predicted before this all started: That different writers and directors of each film would lead to wildly inconsistent structure and tones, with the films not really building off each other, and picking and choosing what is relevant. I'd argue that's not the problem at all. The real problem, I think, is that they didn't have an overarching plot worked out in advance, knowing exactly what was going to happen in VIII and IX while still writing the script for VII. That leads to choppy plotting, because each film has to improvise a plot that may or may not connect to the others properly (see also, the Mass Effect franchise). Which combines with the other fatal flaw of these movies. If they copy the tone and story beats of the original trilogy too closely, people will complain. But if they try to innovate too much, people will complain. So they're sort of forced to walk a middle path on a tightrope over an abyss, and wind up pissing everybody off. They might be able to pull that off if they had a solid plan from the start and a story worth telling, but when each individual movie is treated as a separate project rather than the trilogy as a whole being written holistically, they're pretty much fucked. CyborgSage00x0 posted... But as to the overall plot, and where the story goes from here, I find little that is compelling me to care for all but maybe 2 characters, and I keep wondering where this will all end up, and what the overall point is. While I'm not champing at the bit to know how it all ends, I'm still willing to see it through (eventually). There's both good and bad in there, and if I was the sort of person who completely wrote off all of the good because the bad annoyed me, I'd have spent the last 35 years hating RotJ. That being said, it took me 6 months to watch Last Jedi, and I've had the DVD for like 2 months now, so it's pretty obvious this isn't even remotely high up my radar at this point. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:902514651] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote>So yeah. My opinion of the movie might change on future viewings (and I would certainly fast-forward through most Finn scenes the same way I fast-forward through most of Endor when watching RotJ), but it is what it is. I can also see people who dislike it because it doesn't feel like a Star Wars movie to them, or because it's not the sort of movie they wanted, but to be honest, it was never going to be that movie, and I don't think it can ever be that sort of movie again. And as long as Disney's going to keep cranking out movies in the franchise for the next 437 years, we either need to adapt to that new reality or just stop caring about the franchise entirely. <cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted...</cite> <quote>I liked it way better than TFA, mostly because it didn't completely ape Empire, but I still found it to be riddled with flaws and ultimately frustrating. And with nothing but the climax left in IX, I feel safe to say that this trilogy is a disappointment for me.</quote> I kind of like both, for different reasons, in different ways. But if TFA felt too much like A New Hope for many people, TLJ parallels RotJ in a lot of ways (not all of them good), albeit with a bittersweet Empire-flavored ending. If we assume the next film continues mimicking the original trilogy, then maybe we'll get a movie that hits the same sort of beats Empire did, only with a happy ending. And I could probably live with that. I wouldn't say this trilogy is a disappointment for me, but then again, I never really had high hopes for it in the first place. And it's still better than the prequels so far (though that isn't hard). <cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted...</cite> <quote>It's suffering from something I predicted before this all started: That different writers and directors of each film would lead to wildly inconsistent structure and tones, with the films not really building off each other, and picking and choosing what is relevant.</quote> I'd argue that's not the problem at all. The real problem, I think, is that they didn't have an overarching plot worked out in advance, knowing exactly what was going to happen in VIII and IX while still writing the script for VII. That leads to choppy plotting, because each film has to improvise a plot that may or may not connect to the others properly (see also, the Mass Effect franchise). Which combines with the other fatal flaw of these movies. If they copy the tone and story beats of the original trilogy too closely, people will complain. But if they try to innovate too much, people will complain. So they're sort of forced to walk a middle path on a tightrope over an abyss, and wind up pissing everybody off. They might be able to pull that off if they had a solid plan from the start and a story worth telling, but when each individual movie is treated as a separate project rather than the trilogy as a whole being written holistically, they're pretty much fucked. <cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted...</cite> <quote>But as to the overall plot, and where the story goes from here, I find little that is compelling me to care for all but maybe 2 characters, and I keep wondering where this will all end up, and what the overall point is.</quote> While I'm not champing at the bit to know how it all ends, I'm still willing to see it through (eventually). There's both good and bad in there, and if I was the sort of person who completely wrote off all of the good because the bad annoyed me, I'd have spent the last 35 years hating RotJ. That being said, it took me 6 months to watch Last Jedi, and I've had the DVD for like 2 months now, so it's pretty obvious this isn't even remotely high up my radar at this point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 06/04/18 3:09:31 AM #37:	CyborgSage00x0 posted... And not going to lie, I hated Luke dying. But HOW he died, and why, and the lack of a clear answer to either of those 2 questions, pissed me off more than anything. I can see why Hamill disagreed with what Rian did with the character). To be honest, I knew that was going to happen at some point in these movies the moment they announced they were going to make them. And really, it pretty much NEEDED to happen. I think it was handled well enough in context. It was essentially a redemptive arc, and... http://allthetropes.wikia.com/wiki/Redemption_Equals_Death CyborgSage00x0 posted... Also, I'll smugly point out that I ended up being correct that The Last Jedi was a dumb and lying name, for the exact reasons I speculated months ago. "I will not be the last Jedi!" Yeah Luke, it was obvious to me that was never going to be the case. 2 titles in a row now that have just sucked. I'd argue that's meaningless, though. If it sums up the thematic point of the movie (and it does), it's an accurate title. Whether you interpret it as Luke being the last Jedi (which he is), or Rey becoming the last of the Jedi (for now) once Luke dies, it was still true for 90%+ of the movie. The fact that he recants that sense of identity in the end doesn't somehow negate the idea. If anything, his recanting effectively gives the title meaning. And it's not like half the world didn't point out that "Jedi" can be plural anyway. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:902514673] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted...</cite> <quote>And not going to lie, I hated Luke dying. But HOW he died, and why, and the lack of a clear answer to either of those 2 questions, pissed me off more than anything. I can see why Hamill disagreed with what Rian did with the character).</quote> To be honest, I knew that was going to happen at some point in these movies the moment they announced they were going to make them. And really, it pretty much NEEDED to happen. I think it was handled well enough in context. It was essentially a redemptive arc, and... http://allthetropes.wikia.com/wiki/Redemption_Equals_Death <cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted...</cite> <quote>Also, I'll smugly point out that I ended up being correct that The Last Jedi was a dumb and lying name, for the exact reasons I speculated months ago. "I will not be the last Jedi!" Yeah Luke, it was obvious to me that was never going to be the case. 2 titles in a row now that have just sucked.</quote> I'd argue that's meaningless, though. If it sums up the thematic point of the movie (and it does), it's an accurate title. Whether you interpret it as Luke being the last Jedi (which he is), or Rey becoming the last of the Jedi (for now) once Luke dies, it was still true for 90%+ of the movie. The fact that he recants that sense of identity in the end doesn't somehow negate the idea. If anything, his recanting effectively gives the title meaning. And it's not like half the world didn't point out that "Jedi" can be plural anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 06/04/18 3:10:53 AM #38:	shadowsword87 posted... I stopped caring about the Star War movies when I watched the first 20 minutes of Rogue One. I'm surprised that I haven't been spoiled yet, not because I'm staying so far away from everything, but everyone's super careful about spoiling it for other people. This was a weird turn I wasn't really expecting. I always found it funny that there's so much backlash online against Rogue One, when I and pretty much every other adult male around my age that I know that I talked to after seeing it thought it was the best Star Wars movie in the last 30 or so years. Granted, again, my opinion might change if I watched it a second time, but as a visceral, in-the-moment experience, I enjoyed it. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:902514706] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote><cite>shadowsword87 posted...</cite> <quote>I stopped caring about the Star War movies when I watched the first 20 minutes of Rogue One. I'm surprised that I haven't been spoiled yet, not because I'm staying so far away from everything, but everyone's super careful about spoiling it for other people. This was a weird turn I wasn't really expecting.</quote> I always found it funny that there's so much backlash online against Rogue One, when I and pretty much every other adult male around my age that I know that I talked to after seeing it thought it was the best Star Wars movie in the last 30 or so years. Granted, again, my opinion might change if I watched it a second time, but as a visceral, in-the-moment experience, I enjoyed it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 06/04/18 3:50:40 AM #39:	The Wave Master posted... I guess my problem is that I don't like being preached to in a movie. It's my problem with a movie like, Million Dollar Baby. The Last Jedi spends 2 plus hours telling me that there is no hope, that heroes aren't always who you think they are, and that waiting for that hope is just dumb. (Which every adult knows that.) Then it pisses all over that with the ending. Star Wars has always done that, though. As early as A New Hope, the films are constantly setting up strawmen that it proceeds to knock down. Whether it's Uncle Owen trying to discourage Luke from wanting to be more than a farmer, or Yoda not wanting to teach him, or Luke wanting to redeem Vader while Obi-Wan and Yoda keep telling him its impossible, up to Vader and the Emperor telling him the Dark Side is stronger and he WILL turn. Subverting the implied cynical moral has pretty much been Star Wars 101 from day one. The Wave Master posted... At least have the convictions to say, "Maybe old, crazy, hermit, Luke Skywalker is right?" Nope, he was wrong and he spent years of his life wasting away just to piss away at the end. You've just described Obi-Wan's entire character arc. Obi-Wan and Yoda both write Anakin off in RotS. They make almost no effort to redeem him, and then fuck off to hide, allowing Vader and the Emperor to do terrible things for 20 years while they live in almost total isolation in incredibly shitty places (at least Luke picked a NICE island). How much suffering could they have prevented if they'd only tried SLIGHTLY harder to pull Anakin back from the Dark Side instead of having a boring 40 minute lightsaber duel on a volcano? How many deaths could have been prevented? Luke loses hope, Rey rekindles that hope, thus taking the same narrative place he once held himself (you could easily say the title of A New Hope literally refers to him specifically - Rey is basically The Even Newer Hope). He's her Obi-Wan, Kylo is her Vader. Lather, rinse, repeat. The Wave Master posted... There were very few answers to questions like, "Who is Snoke and why does he want Rey alive? He answers the latter question himself - he wants her to lure Luke out of hiding (or at least to tell him where he his), and thus achieve the goal he's had for like 20+ years. As for the former, I assume they'll answer it either in the next movie (which is acceptable), or in some tie-in novel eventually (which is bullshit, but which is also way too common for every franchise that has an active novel line these days). --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:902515481] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Wave Master posted...</cite> <quote>I guess my problem is that I don't like being preached to in a movie. It's my problem with a movie like, Million Dollar Baby. The Last Jedi spends 2 plus hours telling me that there is no hope, that heroes aren't always who you think they are, and that waiting for that hope is just dumb. (Which every adult knows that.) Then it pisses all over that with the ending.</quote> Star Wars has always done that, though. As early as A New Hope, the films are constantly setting up strawmen that it proceeds to knock down. Whether it's Uncle Owen trying to discourage Luke from wanting to be more than a farmer, or Yoda not wanting to teach him, or Luke wanting to redeem Vader while Obi-Wan and Yoda keep telling him its impossible, up to Vader and the Emperor telling him the Dark Side is stronger and he WILL turn. Subverting the implied cynical moral has pretty much been Star Wars 101 from day one. <cite>The Wave Master posted...</cite> <quote>At least have the convictions to say, "Maybe old, crazy, hermit, Luke Skywalker is right?" Nope, he was wrong and he spent years of his life wasting away just to piss away at the end.</quote> You've just described Obi-Wan's entire character arc. Obi-Wan and Yoda both write Anakin off in RotS. They make almost no effort to redeem him, and then fuck off to hide, allowing Vader and the Emperor to do terrible things for 20 years while they live in almost total isolation in incredibly shitty places (at least Luke picked a NICE island). How much suffering could they have prevented if they'd only tried SLIGHTLY harder to pull Anakin back from the Dark Side instead of having a boring 40 minute lightsaber duel on a volcano? How many deaths could have been prevented? Luke loses hope, Rey rekindles that hope, thus taking the same narrative place he once held himself (you could easily say the title of A New Hope literally refers to him specifically - Rey is basically The Even Newer Hope). He's her Obi-Wan, Kylo is her Vader. Lather, rinse, repeat. <cite>The Wave Master posted...</cite> <quote>There were very few answers to questions like, "Who is Snoke and why does he want Rey alive?</quote> He answers the latter question himself - he wants her to lure Luke out of hiding (or at least to tell him where he his), and thus achieve the goal he's had for like 20+ years. As for the former, I assume they'll answer it either in the next movie (which is acceptable), or in some tie-in novel eventually (which is bullshit, but which is also way too common for every franchise that has an active novel line these days). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 06/04/18 3:50:45 AM #40:	The Wave Master posted... Leia rips him a new one and tells him that he's an idiot. I mean he is, but idiots are idiots and usually do something stupid, and if unchecked will do further stupid things. Poe does, which sends Rose and Finn on a stupid and unnecessary trip to Star Wars Monte Carlo. Leia also spells it out pretty clearly why she treats him the way she does. Because she's fully aware she's old and probably going to die soon, and is trying to establish future leaders for the Resistance. This is underlined when they go out of their way to have her getting mopey about their losses (which they're having a harder and harder time replacing), and to point out that half the leaders in the Resistance are apparently still people who were leaders in the Rebellion (and who they then kill off to clear the board). She wants to groom Poe for a leadership role, and even though he's young and impulsive, she sees potential in him. So she tries to explain why he's wrong rather than simply lock him in the brig until she can run a court martial. But then she gets blown up and Laura "Can't Stop Smirking" Dern doesn't have time for his shit. As for unnecessary trip to Star Wars Monte Carlo, that just felt like yet another attempt to recapture the magic of the Cantina scene (even the orchestration is similar), which, like every other attempt, completely failed. The Wave Master posted... Here's my problem. If Holdo tells that idiot Poe the plan when she had a chance instead of keeping him in the dark, which clearly wasn't smart or Leia's wishes, then we don't have a middle of the movie. A simple conversation and we don't have 50 minutes of a movie. Presumably, by that point she was already under a ton of stress because she was already planning her own suicide run, and had neither the time nor the patience for his bullshit. And arguably, if she KNEW Leia was grooming him for leadership, it's possible she didn't even remotely anticipate that he'd try and lead a mutiny and almost screw everything up. But honestly, the biggest problem with those scenes is that, in any real military, there's not a ton of commanding officers who are in the habit of explaining every facet of their plans to minor sub-lieutenants, or letting them badmouth them on the bridge of their ship in the middle of a crisis situation. He probably should have been in the brig after their first interaction, and definitely after the second one. And really, it's not as if this is the only film - good or bad - where the main characters have to spontaneously be stupid in some way to make the plot happen. It's not even the first Star Wars plot where 80% of the trouble could have been avoided if people actually sat down and had a conversation. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:902515482] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Wave Master posted...</cite> <quote>Leia rips him a new one and tells him that he's an idiot. I mean he is, but idiots are idiots and usually do something stupid, and if unchecked will do further stupid things. Poe does, which sends Rose and Finn on a stupid and unnecessary trip to Star Wars Monte Carlo.</quote> Leia also spells it out pretty clearly why she treats him the way she does. Because she's fully aware she's old and probably going to die soon, and is trying to establish future leaders for the Resistance. This is underlined when they go out of their way to have her getting mopey about their losses (which they're having a harder and harder time replacing), and to point out that half the leaders in the Resistance are apparently still people who were leaders in the Rebellion (and who they then kill off to clear the board). She wants to groom Poe for a leadership role, and even though he's young and impulsive, she sees potential in him. So she tries to explain why he's wrong rather than simply lock him in the brig until she can run a court martial. But then she gets blown up and Laura "Can't Stop Smirking" Dern doesn't have time for his shit. As for unnecessary trip to Star Wars Monte Carlo, that just felt like yet another attempt to recapture the magic of the Cantina scene (even the orchestration is similar), which, like every other attempt, completely failed. <cite>The Wave Master posted...</cite> <quote>Here's my problem. If Holdo tells that idiot Poe the plan when she had a chance instead of keeping him in the dark, which clearly wasn't smart or Leia's wishes, then we don't have a middle of the movie. A simple conversation and we don't have 50 minutes of a movie.</quote> Presumably, by that point she was already under a ton of stress because she was already planning her own suicide run, and had neither the time nor the patience for his bullshit. And arguably, if she KNEW Leia was grooming him for leadership, it's possible she didn't even remotely anticipate that he'd try and lead a mutiny and almost screw everything up. But honestly, the biggest problem with those scenes is that, in any real military, there's not a ton of commanding officers who are in the habit of explaining every facet of their plans to minor sub-lieutenants, or letting them badmouth them on the bridge of their ship in the middle of a crisis situation. He probably should have been in the brig after their first interaction, and definitely after the second one. And really, it's not as if this is the only film - good or bad - where the main characters have to spontaneously be stupid in some way to make the plot happen. It's not even the first Star Wars plot where 80% of the trouble could have been avoided if people actually sat down and had a conversation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 06/04/18 3:52:39 AM #41:	The Wave Master posted... Also, Poe sits around doing nothing the whole movie. He did that in the last movie too. Waste of time and an interesting character. The problem with Poe is that he was supposed to die in the first 10 minutes of the last movie. I feel like he's always going to feel a bit aimless, because he was never supposed to be in the movies, and is only really there because the test audiences really liked him, and everyone likes shipping him with Finn. The Wave Master posted... There's so much more. Leia becoming Supergirl, The Force doing some crazy s**. To be fair, they were hinting at Leia starting to feel the Force in RotJ, and it's been decades since then. I find it plausible that she's developed that at least a bit since then, or that she can sort of tap into it in desperate circumstances. As for the Force doing crazy shit, the prequels and the EU opened that door a long time ago, and I don't think we're ever closing it again. Which is a shame, since I think it's more interesting if the Force is more subtle and minor, more akin to what we saw in the original trilogy, but that's a ship that sailed decades ago. The Wave Master posted... No great lightsaber duels. I'm completely fine with that. As is, an argument can be made that the films that focused most on lightsaber battles also wound up being the ones that were a huge fecal mess. I'll settle for psychology over over-choreographed laser sword fights every single time. Even if the psychology is over-simplified. To paraphrase the Redlettermedia reviews, every lightsaber fight in the original trilogy had weight because of what it represented. All of the lightsaber fights in the prequels felt empty and pointless because they meant absolutely nothing (and the one* fight that did matter wound up sucking as well because it lasted four hours). --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:902515528] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Wave Master posted...</cite> <quote>Also, Poe sits around doing nothing the whole movie. He did that in the last movie too. Waste of time and an interesting character.</quote> The problem with Poe is that he was supposed to die in the first 10 minutes of the last movie. I feel like he's always going to feel a bit aimless, because he was never supposed to be in the movies, and is only really there because the test audiences really liked him, and everyone likes shipping him with Finn. <cite>The Wave Master posted...</cite> <quote>There's so much more. Leia becoming Supergirl, The Force doing some crazy s***.</quote> To be fair, they were hinting at Leia starting to feel the Force in RotJ, and it's been decades since then. I find it plausible that she's developed that at least a bit since then, or that she can sort of tap into it in desperate circumstances. As for the Force doing crazy shit, the prequels and the EU opened that door a long time ago, and I don't think we're ever closing it again. Which is a shame, since I think it's more interesting if the Force is more subtle and minor, more akin to what we saw in the original trilogy, but that's a ship that sailed decades ago. <cite>The Wave Master posted...</cite> <quote>No great lightsaber duels. </quote> I'm completely fine with that. As is, an argument can be made that the films that focused most on lightsaber battles also wound up being the ones that were a huge fecal mess. I'll settle for psychology over over-choreographed laser sword fights every single time. Even if the psychology is over-simplified. To paraphrase the Redlettermedia reviews, every lightsaber fight in the original trilogy had weight because of what it represented. All of the lightsaber fights in the prequels felt empty and pointless because they meant absolutely nothing (and the one fight that did matter wound up sucking as well because it lasted four hours). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 06/04/18 4:00:20 AM #42:	CyborgSage00x0 posted... And why even have this Holdo character? So they'd have an excuse to cast a "name" actress in a role. It's the same reason they shoehorned in Benicio del Toro. And the sole reason why Samuel L. Jackson was cast as Mace Windu. ~~Well, not the sole reason. Also, "urban" demographics!~~ Okay, I think that's pretty much every post about The Last Jedi from the last thread. All of which the rest of you have probably forgotten by now anyway. Oddly, there was apparently absolutely no discussion of Black Panther. Is that something we want to start this time around? Or are we content to let that sleeping dog lie forever? And at some point in the near future, I'll throw the Infinity War topics up here to reply to. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:902515669] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted...</cite> <quote>And why even have this Holdo character?</quote> So they'd have an excuse to cast a "name" actress in a role. It's the same reason they shoehorned in Benicio del Toro. And the sole reason why Samuel L. Jackson was cast as Mace Windu. Well, not the sole reason. Also, "urban" demographics! Okay, I think that's pretty much every post about The Last Jedi from the last thread. All of which the rest of you have probably forgotten by now anyway. Oddly, there was apparently absolutely no discussion of Black Panther. Is that something we want to start this time around? Or are we content to let that sleeping dog lie forever? And at some point in the near future, I'll throw the Infinity War topics up here to reply to. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 06/04/18 4:08:52 AM #43:	Actually, I can post the stuff about Infinity War here, since there wasn't much discussion about it (mostly just people not wanting to talk about it to avoid spoilers. Entity13 posted... As aware as I am of the internet's fondness of spoilers, I'm waiting until the second part comes out before I go to see Infinity War. I'm considering whether or not to watch Captain Marvel in between both parts as well, for when I otherwise watch the first before heading to the theater to watch the second. You probably NEED to watch Captain Marvel, because it's pretty strongly implied she's going to show up in the conclusion, and you're not going to know what the MCU interpretation of her character is going in. On the plus side, her movie is a flashback to the 1990s, so it won't take place contemporaneously with the Avenger movies. Metalsonic66 posted... I was really worried that they wouldn't be able to give all the different characters time to shine. The movie was actually really well... Balanced. It definitely was. It mostly accomplished this by breaking all of the heroes up into smaller, separate groups that can have parallel storylines. The timing of events feels slightly off in some places, and the pacing isn't entirely perfect all of the time, but the movie as a whole was enjoyable enough that I'm willing to overlook the small flaws. Metalsonic66 posted... It's pretty complete if you consider Thanos the main character, which he kinda was. They flat out tell you so in the end credits, where it says "Thanos will return". --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:902515813] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote>Actually, I can post the stuff about Infinity War here, since there wasn't much discussion about it (mostly just people not wanting to talk about it to avoid spoilers. <cite>Entity13 posted...</cite> <quote>As aware as I am of the internet's fondness of spoilers, I'm waiting until the second part comes out before I go to see Infinity War. I'm considering whether or not to watch Captain Marvel in between both parts as well, for when I otherwise watch the first before heading to the theater to watch the second.</quote> You probably NEED to watch Captain Marvel, because it's pretty strongly implied she's going to show up in the conclusion, and you're not going to know what the MCU interpretation of her character is going in. On the plus side, her movie is a flashback to the 1990s, so it won't take place contemporaneously with the Avenger movies. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted...</cite> <quote>I was really worried that they wouldn't be able to give all the different characters time to shine. The movie was actually really well... Balanced.</quote> It definitely was. It mostly accomplished this by breaking all of the heroes up into smaller, separate groups that can have parallel storylines. The timing of events feels slightly off in some places, and the pacing isn't entirely perfect all of the time, but the movie as a whole was enjoyable enough that I'm willing to overlook the small flaws. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted...</cite> <quote>It's pretty complete if you consider Thanos the main character, which he kinda was.</quote> They flat out tell you so in the end credits, where it says "Thanos will return". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I_Abibde 06/04/18 6:57:52 AM #44:	Almost too many questions and topics of conversation to which I can respond here, but that is a good thing. Going to address several of them in short order. -- Agelessness / immortality for my superpower, though I imagine my archenemy is going to be a Scotsman brandishing a Japanese sword given to him by an Egyptian ... with a Spanish name ... played by another Scotsman. -- Having a robot double of myself makes my superpower twice as useful. I can get him to play all the games for which I do not have time, and he can help with the dusting. And I suppose I would use him for naughty business. Immortality breeds boredom, after all, and, if he is a robot version of me, then he is going to ask, anyway. -- Jamie Foxx annoyed me in ASM2. I do not see him being a great Spawn. -- I need more Waterdeep like I need a hole in the head. I enjoyed the Mordenkainen book, but the campaign-based expansions (e.g. Tomb of Annihilation, recently almost completed by one of my groups) have done very little for me. -- Enjoyed Solo. Had a lot of fun watching it, in fact. Reminds me of the old Han Solo books that followed the original Star Wars (e.g. Han Solo At Star's End). A little disappointed that it is doing poorly (... by Star Wars standards), but it is what it is. -- Rogue One is easily in my top three favorite Star Wars movies. -- The Last Jedi was designed to be divisive. Lots I enjoyed about it, lots that just made me raise a brow, but they went into it trying to do what the audience did not expect, and, in that regard, it succeeded. Not one of my favorites, but not a car crash, either. -- ... I thought Black Panther was great, but everybody in my family has the same thought about it: "We liked it a lot, but we definitely don't feel like the target audience." All right, that catches things up for me, I think, but I will add that I have been actively rereading books from the Star Wars Expanded Universe. (My copies are old enough to not have "Legends" branded on them.) Enjoyable, but it feels a little strange, considering that the 'canon' universe is liberally taking things from "Legends" and repurposing them as needed (see: Solo). --- -- I Abibde / Samuraiter Laughing at Game FAQs since 2002. <cite>I_Abibde posted [p:902518902] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote>Almost too many questions and topics of conversation to which I can respond here, but that is a good thing. Going to address several of them in short order. -- Agelessness / immortality for my superpower, though I imagine my archenemy is going to be a Scotsman brandishing a Japanese sword given to him by an Egyptian ... with a Spanish name ... played by another Scotsman. -- Having a robot double of myself makes my superpower twice as useful. I can get him to play all the games for which I do not have time, and he can help with the dusting. And I suppose I would use him for naughty business. Immortality breeds boredom, after all, and, if he is a robot version of me, then he is going to ask, anyway. -- Jamie Foxx annoyed me in ASM2. I do not see him being a great Spawn. -- I need more Waterdeep like I need a hole in the head. I enjoyed the Mordenkainen book, but the campaign-based expansions (e.g. Tomb of Annihilation, recently almost completed by one of my groups) have done very little for me. -- Enjoyed Solo. Had a lot of fun watching it, in fact. Reminds me of the old Han Solo books that followed the original Star Wars (e.g. Han Solo At Star's End). A little disappointed that it is doing poorly (... by Star Wars standards), but it is what it is. -- Rogue One is easily in my top three favorite Star Wars movies. -- The Last Jedi was designed to be divisive. Lots I enjoyed about it, lots that just made me raise a brow, but they went into it trying to do what the audience did not expect, and, in that regard, it succeeded. Not one of my favorites, but not a car crash, either. -- ... I thought Black Panther was great, but everybody in my family has the same thought about it: "We liked it a lot, but we definitely don't feel like the target audience." All right, that catches things up for me, I think, but I will add that I have been actively rereading books from the Star Wars Expanded Universe. (My copies are old enough to not have "Legends" branded on them.) Enjoyable, but it feels a little strange, considering that the 'canon' universe is liberally taking things from "Legends" and repurposing them as needed (see: Solo).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyborgSage00x0 06/04/18 4:39:58 PM #45:	The Wave Master posted... "If you had three super powers, not just one or even two, what would they be?" I was initially going to think of stuff that would be cool thematically for me personally and stuff, but fuck it: If I can legit get any 3 super powers, I'm just going to go for the most broken ones so that I can become rich, and make myself a super hero/villain if need be. So give me teleportation, mind control, and and time control. Or swap time control with immortality, if that's allowed. I would then essentially make myself Light Yagami from Death Note, except with more money and maybe slightly less of a god complex. I'm not a fan of casting Jamie Foxx as Spawn. I feel it's going to be two hours of him growling and talking with his mouth closed thru his teeth. shrug They need star power is they are going to compete with the big superhero film obvious, and that's something he definitely has. I like Kaluuya a lot, but I definitely don't see him as Spawn. I could go with Duke, though. Any thoughts on why Solo is under performing at the box office? Come on, you know why: Film fatigue, which myself and practically everyone else predicated would happen as soon as Disney got the SW rights. It was inevitable that Disney was going to suck the teat dry, but they somehow seem amazingly oblivious that having a once cherished series with only 6 films in a 30+ year span switching to like 4 films in 4 years would be a very jarring switch that would wear people down and out. Despite the large marketing blitz, you could just FEEL how uninterested the general public has been for the film. There's a myriad of smaller reasons, too: Planting it right after/next to IW and Deadpool 2 was an amazingly bad idea, and the extremely polarizing The Last Jedi definitely killed more fans of the movies than brought in, yours truly included. Alden Ehrenreich not really having the "look" of Harrison Ford in the trailers, or the fact that no one was asking for a Solo backstory in the first place also contribute. One would hope this is a wake-up call the Disney, since they already have like 2 other trilogies and a Boba Fett movie already planned. They definitely need to pump the brakes over there. The fact that a SW movie is going to have trouble making its money back is mind blowing. When they originally announced they were going to do Rogue One, Solo, and a presumed Obi-Wan movie, Rogue One was pretty much the only concept I even remotely gave a shit about. Same. I have a problem with doing stand-alone movies with already established characters, just so they can fill in their backstories. I don't NEED to know Han's backstory-the fact that he's a ruffian and a smuggler has been, and always will be good enough for the SW movies. I don't need the exact details. RO is different though, because it has minimal connection to already established characters, yet a large connection to the plot. And while no one ever asked for, or needed to see how the Death Star plans were stolen, it offered a rare glimpse into the SW universe void of Jedi or The Froce, and instead relied on good-old subterfuge and whatnot. The fact that it turned out to be a suicide mission and all the heroes were basically forgotten also made it cool. --- PotD's resident Film Expert. <cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted [p:902543158] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Wave Master posted...</cite> <quote>"If you had three super powers, not just one or even two, what would they be?" </quote> I was initially going to think of stuff that would be cool thematically for me personally and stuff, but fuck it: If I can legit get any 3 super powers, I'm just going to go for the most broken ones so that I can become rich, and make myself a super hero/villain if need be. So give me teleportation, mind control, and and time control. Or swap time control with immortality, if that's allowed. I would then essentially make myself Light Yagami from Death Note, except with more money and maybe slightly less of a god complex. <quote>I'm not a fan of casting Jamie Foxx as Spawn. I feel it's going to be two hours of him growling and talking with his mouth closed thru his teeth. </quote> shrug They need star power is they are going to compete with the big superhero film obvious, and that's something he definitely has. I like Kaluuya a lot, but I definitely don't see him as Spawn. I could go with Duke, though. <quote>Any thoughts on why Solo is under performing at the box office?</quote> Come on, you know why: Film fatigue, which myself and practically everyone else predicated would happen as soon as Disney got the SW rights. It was inevitable that Disney was going to suck the teat dry, but they somehow seem amazingly oblivious that having a once cherished series with only 6 films in a 30+ year span switching to like 4 films in 4 years would be a very jarring switch that would wear people down and out. Despite the large marketing blitz, you could just FEEL how uninterested the general public has been for the film. There's a myriad of smaller reasons, too: Planting it right after/next to IW and Deadpool 2 was an amazingly bad idea, and the extremely polarizing The Last Jedi definitely killed more fans of the movies than brought in, yours truly included. Alden Ehrenreich not really having the "look" of Harrison Ford in the trailers, or the fact that no one was asking for a Solo backstory in the first place also contribute. One would hope this is a wake-up call the Disney, since they already have like 2 other trilogies and a Boba Fett movie already planned. They definitely need to pump the brakes over there. The fact that a SW movie is going to have trouble making its money back is mind blowing. <quote>When they originally announced they were going to do Rogue One, Solo, and a presumed Obi-Wan movie, Rogue One was pretty much the only concept I even remotely gave a shit about.</quote> Same. I have a problem with doing stand-alone movies with already established characters, just so they can fill in their backstories. I don't NEED to know Han's backstory-the fact that he's a ruffian and a smuggler has been, and always will be good enough for the SW movies. I don't need the exact details. RO is different though, because it has minimal connection to already established characters, yet a large connection to the plot. And while no one ever asked for, or needed to see how the Death Star plans were stolen, it offered a rare glimpse into the SW universe void of Jedi or The Froce, and instead relied on good-old subterfuge and whatnot. The fact that it turned out to be a suicide mission and all the heroes were basically forgotten also made it cool.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyborgSage00x0 06/04/18 5:36:07 PM #46:	I'd argue that's not the problem at all. The real problem, I think, is that they didn't have an overarching plot worked out in advance, knowing exactly what was going to happen in VIII and IX while still writing the script for VII. That leads to choppy plotting, because each film has to improvise a plot that may or may not connect to the others properly (see also, the Mass Effect franchise). I didn't spell it out in my original quote, but yeah, this is exactly what i meant by "inconsistent structure", since there was basically no guidelines that each writer/director has to stick to. The effect being it feels like reading one of those "Let's write a story 3 words at a time" topics when watching TFA and TLJ back-to-back. I'm honestly baffled how anyone thought that was a good idea. While I'm not champing at the bit to know how it all ends, I'm still willing to see it through (eventually). There's both good and bad in there, and if I was the sort of person who completely wrote off all of the good because the bad annoyed me, I'd have spent the last 35 years hating RotJ. Sure, I basically have to finish something once I start it, unless it's just that god-awful (in which case I usually tap out mid way/right after the first season/film/whatever). So I'll see IX. But that's very likely where I end my escapades with the SW films going forth. I basically blatantly refuse to see Solo, since I don't want to promote Disney's continual whoring of the films, in addition to me giving no fucks about the premise of the story. But as I said before, I see no way IX can turn out well, especially now that JJ is doing IX. Is he going to have blue balls for not being able to write the conclusion he was likely imagining (since TLJ likely derailed it), or will be somehow try and make a salad out of the leafy fragments that he has to now work with? And even if IX turns out pretty good against all reasoning, it'll have somehow manged to do that in stark contrast of the other 2 films in my eyes. --- PotD's resident Film Expert. <cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted [p:902546167] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote><quote>I'd argue that's not the problem at all. The real problem, I think, is that they didn't have an overarching plot worked out in advance, knowing exactly what was going to happen in VIII and IX while still writing the script for VII. That leads to choppy plotting, because each film has to improvise a plot that may or may not connect to the others properly (see also, the Mass Effect franchise).</quote> I didn't spell it out in my original quote, but yeah, this is exactly what i meant by "inconsistent structure", since there was basically no guidelines that each writer/director has to stick to. The effect being it feels like reading one of those "Let's write a story 3 words at a time" topics when watching TFA and TLJ back-to-back. I'm honestly baffled how anyone thought that was a good idea. <quote>While I'm not champing at the bit to know how it all ends, I'm still willing to see it through (eventually). There's both good and bad in there, and if I was the sort of person who completely wrote off all of the good because the bad annoyed me, I'd have spent the last 35 years hating RotJ.</quote> Sure, I basically have to finish something once I start it, unless it's just that god-awful (in which case I usually tap out mid way/right after the first season/film/whatever). So I'll see IX. But that's very likely where I end my escapades with the SW films going forth. I basically blatantly refuse to see Solo, since I don't want to promote Disney's continual whoring of the films, in addition to me giving no fucks about the premise of the story. But as I said before, I see no way IX can turn out well, especially now that JJ is doing IX. Is he going to have blue balls for not being able to write the conclusion he was likely imagining (since TLJ likely derailed it), or will be somehow try and make a salad out of the leafy fragments that he has to now work with? And even if IX turns out pretty good against all reasoning, it'll have somehow manged to do that in stark contrast of the other 2 films in my eyes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyborgSage00x0 06/04/18 5:54:42 PM #47:	ParanoidObsessive posted... Oddly, there was apparently absolutely no discussion of Black Panther. Is that something we want to start this time around? Or are we content to let that sleeping dog lie forever? And at some point in the near future, I'll throw the Infinity War topics up here to reply to. Let's do both. Spoilers might have been the reason for both. Or in my case, for basically being inactive for most of last topic. I liked Black Panther. Not so much to explain to me its staggering box office success (it's still in theaters as it's coming out on home media!), but it's probably the best Marvel film focused on a "B-tier" Avenger (then again, I liked Dr. Strange quite a bit). Killmonger is definitely one of MCU's better villains (and it helps that I like Michael B. Jordan a lot, and I liked him on screen more than BP himself), and the music, visuals, and fights were all great. The story to me was just meh. The idea of isolationism vs. the globalism interaction Wakanda could have was a neat story idea, but I feel it kinda got lost in the shuffle of Killmonger's revenge plot, and BP's inner struggles on what it meant to be a king. I feel like honing in tighter on the struggle and responsibilities of a country like Wakanda has to itself and/vs. the world would have made for a more interesting outcome. That, and I felt the scenes of meeting in the Korean casino or w/e kinda hurt the overall story flow, but BP was definitely good over all. IW I thought was pretty sublime in a way, to pull something that big off that felt really well rounded over all. I especially like how dedicated they went to making Thanos that big of a threat and badass...since it's inevitable that the Avengers will come back and "win" in part 2, they really needed to make Thanos' victory here look dominating. And they did. Great fight scenes, proper time for basically all the heroes, good one liners (I'm really glad they gave Thanos the "You'll know what it's like to lose. To believe so desperately that you are right, yet fail all the same" line, just it's basically a giant "fuck you" to the idea of the power of friendship), tone....it was a big win for me. I'll get into it more, but back to work for me. --- PotD's resident Film Expert. <cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted [p:902547220] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote><cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>Oddly, there was apparently absolutely no discussion of Black Panther. Is that something we want to start this time around? Or are we content to let that sleeping dog lie forever? And at some point in the near future, I'll throw the Infinity War topics up here to reply to.</quote> Let's do both. Spoilers might have been the reason for both. Or in my case, for basically being inactive for most of last topic. I liked Black Panther. Not so much to explain to me its staggering box office success (it's still in theaters as it's coming out on home media!), but it's probably the best Marvel film focused on a "B-tier" Avenger (then again, I liked Dr. Strange quite a bit). Killmonger is definitely one of MCU's better villains (and it helps that I like Michael B. Jordan a lot, and I liked him on screen more than BP himself), and the music, visuals, and fights were all great. The story to me was just meh. The idea of isolationism vs. the globalism interaction Wakanda could have was a neat story idea, but I feel it kinda got lost in the shuffle of Killmonger's revenge plot, and BP's inner struggles on what it meant to be a king. I feel like honing in tighter on the struggle and responsibilities of a country like Wakanda has to itself and/vs. the world would have made for a more interesting outcome. That, and I felt the scenes of meeting in the Korean casino or w/e kinda hurt the overall story flow, but BP was definitely good over all. IW I thought was pretty sublime in a way, to pull something that big off that felt really well rounded over all. I especially like how dedicated they went to making Thanos that big of a threat and badass...since it's inevitable that the Avengers will come back and "win" in part 2, they really needed to make Thanos' victory here look dominating. And they did. Great fight scenes, proper time for basically all the heroes, good one liners (I'm really glad they gave Thanos the "You'll know what it's like to lose. To believe so desperately that you are right, yet fail all the same" line, just it's basically a giant "fuck you" to the idea of the power of friendship), tone....it was a big win for me. I'll get into it more, but back to work for me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 06/04/18 6:50:39 PM #48:	The Wave Master posted... Any thoughts on why Solo is under performing at the box office? Could be blowback from the first few Disney SW films. Keep in mind that what you thought of the last movie or two influences your decision to see the next one. The Wave Master posted... Have any of you seen Solo? Still plan to see Solo? Do you even have any interest in Solo, and if you do or do not why? Any thoughts on the lackluster returns? I assume I'll watch it when it comes to NFI or someplace else. Then again, I still haven't watched RO so... idk, the fact that Danny Glover is in it and that it covers Han Solo at least makes it more appealing than RO. As it is, we're in the midst of a geek cashinaissance (which is kind of a like a renaissance, but with more cashing in) so there's far too much stuff coming out these days to reasonably follow, let alone if you have other interests. ParanoidObsessive posted... When they originally announced they were going to do Rogue One, Solo, and a presumed Obi-Wan movie, Rogue One was pretty much the only concept I even remotely gave a shit about. Now that they've announced a Boba Fett movie, I'm completely apathetic about that one as well (mostly because I never even remotely cared about him as a character the way so many other people did - gee whiz, he's a fuck up who does one clever thing, says three generic lines, has Vader do him a favor, and then gets eaten by a sand vagina. Kewlest guy evar!). Strong silent type >_> idk, the EU wrote him out of the Sarlaac Pit -- and added to his badass legend -- but that's non-canon now so I'm not quite sure what's going on with him (although it might have been addressed in Star Wars: Rebels which I haven't seen). And he wasn't much of a fuck-up, ~~he very easily tracked and trapped Han Solo's group. And his loss resulted from being struck from behind while in battle.~~ In general, I care more about the bounty hunters than the other characters although a lot of their shit is non-canon now and most of the others haven't had much added to their story so far (although Dengar appeared in Clone Wars, voiced by Simon Pegg). ParanoidObsessive posted... But hey, the last few years have basically had me cutting ties with tons of franchises (or creators of franchises) I used to absolutely love, but which are either completely dead to me now or outright repugnant in their mere existence. So throwing Star Wars onto that particular bonfire wouldn't hurt my feelings all that much. Not sure that there's all that much that I completely gave up on (well, other than the Daily Show when they changed hosts and didn't go with Bassem Youssef or, for that matter, an existing correspondent -- and, prior to that, I stopped watching Colbert some time after the Suey Park incident). Granted, pretty everything I'm less enthusiastic over than I used to be and I kinda go through interests in phases. Even with the WWE where I don't like the overall direction and many of the individual decisions, I've more stopped watching due to how much time it consumes... and part of that is because I started watching more product. If I hadn't followed then fell behind on NXT, it's possible I might have kept with the main shows. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:902550230] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Wave Master posted...</cite> <quote>Any thoughts on why Solo is under performing at the box office?</quote> Could be blowback from the first few Disney SW films. Keep in mind that what you thought of the last movie or two influences your decision to see the next one. <cite>The Wave Master posted...</cite> <quote>Have any of you seen Solo? Still plan to see Solo? Do you even have any interest in Solo, and if you do or do not why? Any thoughts on the lackluster returns?</quote> I assume I'll watch it when it comes to NFI or someplace else. Then again, I still haven't watched RO so... idk, the fact that Danny Glover is in it and that it covers Han Solo at least makes it more appealing than RO. As it is, we're in the midst of a geek cashinaissance (which is kind of a like a renaissance, but with more cashing in) so there's far too much stuff coming out these days to reasonably follow, let alone if you have other interests. <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>When they originally announced they were going to do Rogue One, Solo, and a presumed Obi-Wan movie, Rogue One was pretty much the only concept I even remotely gave a shit about. Now that they've announced a Boba Fett movie, I'm completely apathetic about that one as well (mostly because I never even remotely cared about him as a character the way so many other people did - gee whiz, he's a fuck up who does one clever thing, says three generic lines, has Vader do him a favor, and then gets eaten by a sand vagina. Kewlest guy evar!).</quote> Strong silent type >_> idk, the EU wrote him out of the Sarlaac Pit -- and added to his badass legend -- but that's non-canon now so I'm not quite sure what's going on with him (although it might have been addressed in Star Wars: Rebels which I haven't seen). And he wasn't much of a fuck-up, he very easily tracked and trapped Han Solo's group. And his loss resulted from being struck from behind while in battle. In general, I care more about the bounty hunters than the other characters although a lot of their shit is non-canon now and most of the others haven't had much added to their story so far (although Dengar appeared in Clone Wars, voiced by Simon Pegg). <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>But hey, the last few years have basically had me cutting ties with tons of franchises (or creators of franchises) I used to absolutely love, but which are either completely dead to me now or outright repugnant in their mere existence. So throwing Star Wars onto that particular bonfire wouldn't hurt my feelings all that much.</quote> Not sure that there's all that much that I completely gave up on (well, other than the Daily Show when they changed hosts and didn't go with Bassem Youssef or, for that matter, an existing correspondent -- and, prior to that, I stopped watching Colbert some time after the Suey Park incident). Granted, pretty everything I'm less enthusiastic over than I used to be and I kinda go through interests in phases. Even with the WWE where I don't like the overall direction and many of the individual decisions, I've more stopped watching due to how much time it consumes... and part of that is because I started watching more product. If I hadn't followed then fell behind on NXT, it's possible I might have kept with the main shows.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 06/04/18 7:05:52 PM #49:	Kinda skimming over potential spoilers since I haven't seen RO or TLJ. ParanoidObsessive posted... I'd argue that's not the problem at all. The real problem, I think, is that they didn't have an overarching plot worked out in advance, knowing exactly what was going to happen in VIII and IX while still writing the script for VII. That leads to choppy plotting, because each film has to improvise a plot that may or may not connect to the others properly (see also, the Mass Effect franchise). Which combines with the other fatal flaw of these movies. If they copy the tone and story beats of the original trilogy too closely, people will complain. But if they try to innovate too much, people will complain. So they're sort of forced to walk a middle path on a tightrope over an abyss, and wind up pissing everybody off. Honestly, they could have just chosen to adapt something else. There was tons of existing content they could have adjusted and tweaked. (And I would have loved to have seen Mara Jade on film.) Granted, there were logistical issues because it took too damn long for new films to come out so the actors had aged. However, had they continued with E7, 8, and 9 instead of going prequel, history would have been pretty different today... or not, because Lucas might have mucked things up. ParanoidObsessive posted... shadowsword87 posted... I stopped caring about the Star War movies when I watched the first 20 minutes of Rogue One. I'm surprised that I haven't been spoiled yet, not because I'm staying so far away from everything, but everyone's super careful about spoiling it for other people. This was a weird turn I wasn't really expecting. I always found it funny that there's so much backlash online against Rogue One, when I and pretty much every other adult male around my age that I know that I talked to after seeing it thought it was the best Star Wars movie in the last 30 or so years. Granted, again, my opinion might change if I watched it a second time, but as a visceral, in-the-moment experience, I enjoyed it. I should note that my brother accidentally spoiled the ending for me because he suggested I see a clip with Vader at the end which he wouldn't shut up about. ParanoidObsessive posted... As is, an argument can be made that the films that focused most on lightsaber battles also wound up being the ones that were a huge fecal mess. It wasn't the lightsaber battles that made them bad, those battles were usually the only redeeming feature (excluding the Yoda fights because, why, just why). TPM had a 40 minute pod race breaking up the movie that added nothing to the film (although it gave us a pretty fun N64 game). ParanoidObsessive posted... And the sole reason why Samuel L. Jackson was cast as Mace Windu. Say what you will, but I loved Mace. I don't know what motives they might have had in mind, but he worked... although SamueL shines in most things. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:902551098] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote>Kinda skimming over potential spoilers since I haven't seen RO or TLJ. <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>I'd argue that's not the problem at all. The real problem, I think, is that they didn't have an overarching plot worked out in advance, knowing exactly what was going to happen in VIII and IX while still writing the script for VII. That leads to choppy plotting, because each film has to improvise a plot that may or may not connect to the others properly (see also, the Mass Effect franchise). Which combines with the other fatal flaw of these movies. If they copy the tone and story beats of the original trilogy too closely, people will complain. But if they try to innovate too much, people will complain. So they're sort of forced to walk a middle path on a tightrope over an abyss, and wind up pissing everybody off.</quote> Honestly, they could have just chosen to adapt something else. There was tons of existing content they could have adjusted and tweaked. (And I would have loved to have seen Mara Jade on film.) Granted, there were logistical issues because it took too damn long for new films to come out so the actors had aged. However, had they continued with E7, 8, and 9 instead of going prequel, history would have been pretty different today... or not, because Lucas might have mucked things up. <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shadowsword87 posted...</cite> <quote>I stopped caring about the Star War movies when I watched the first 20 minutes of Rogue One. I'm surprised that I haven't been spoiled yet, not because I'm staying so far away from everything, but everyone's super careful about spoiling it for other people. This was a weird turn I wasn't really expecting.</quote> I always found it funny that there's so much backlash online against Rogue One, when I and pretty much every other adult male around my age that I know that I talked to after seeing it thought it was the best Star Wars movie in the last 30 or so years. Granted, again, my opinion might change if I watched it a second time, but as a visceral, in-the-moment experience, I enjoyed it.</quote> I should note that my brother accidentally spoiled the ending for me because he suggested I see a clip with Vader at the end which he wouldn't shut up about. <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>As is, an argument can be made that the films that focused most on lightsaber battles also wound up being the ones that were a huge fecal mess. </quote> It wasn't the lightsaber battles that made them bad, those battles were usually the only redeeming feature (excluding the Yoda fights because, why, just why). TPM had a 40 minute pod race breaking up the movie that added nothing to the film (although it gave us a pretty fun N64 game). <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>And the sole reason why Samuel L. Jackson was cast as Mace Windu.</quote> Say what you will, but I loved Mace. I don't know what motives they might have had in mind, but he worked... although SamueL shines in most things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyborgSage00x0 06/04/18 7:25:20 PM #50:	Should I bother to watch Agents of SHIELD at this point? It's always been on my list, and I found out Ghost Rider is in it, which is cool. --- PotD's resident Film Expert. <cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted [p:902552252] in Geekmaster... [t:76661006]...</cite> <quote>Should I bother to watch Agents of SHIELD at this point? It's always been on my list, and I found out Ghost Rider is in it, which is cool.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List	Page List: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 10

Poll of the Day > Geekmasters: Now in 4D (+) Yeah! (+)

Poll of the Day > Geekmasters: Now in 4D