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BalanceLost 11/30/17 11:56:18 AM #8:	ROBANN_88 posted... BalanceLost posted... Your simile where you compare this to giving out gun licenses unchecked doesnt make sense to me. my point was that the entire basis for this bills existence is "well, they had to wait a pretty long time, cause a lot came in at once, and we couldn't handle it" not something real like "the security in Afghanistan has worsened" or "we have to do it cause of law X" i was pointing out how ridiculous that would be if any other part of the government worked like that also BalanceLost posted... orphaned immigrant children i don't know about these specific people, but it's pretty common knowledge now that a lot of people who claim to be children, then turn out to be way older. but that's a whole other, though related discussion The wait time argument is a direct result of asylum laws though. There are international regulations about quick assessments and the cases from before November 2015 have failed to meet those standards. The SocDems have been ignoring asylum laws and trying to circumvent them by having our border controls take place on the Danish side of the border for example. And the security situation in Afghanistan has been depated for months but the SocDems have deported youngsters there anyway and will keep doing so until July 2018 at the very least since that is the earliest implementation of the bill if it passes through Riksdagen. And there are other legal areas where wait times are a thing like vrdgarantin and hktningar :P About immigrants pretending to be children: Hence why the medical age assessments which are more likely to say you are older than you actually are than the opposite. They have been done on these youngsters. And tough immigration laws is not the same as completely getting rid of all immigrants. The laws implemented since late 2015 are tough but sensible and economically sound. If Sverigedemokraterna gained power and implemented all their promised immigration laws, then our economy would tank from isolationism rather than be booming like it is now. Half of our GDP comes from exports and SDs policies would kill our trade. --- "BalanceLost has a steam-powered PS2 because Sweden don't have electric" - dimeanatrix <cite>BalanceLost posted [p:891332414] in New Swedis... [t:76046243]...</cite> <quote><cite>ROBANN_88 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BalanceLost posted...</cite> <quote>Your simile where you compare this to giving out gun licenses unchecked doesnt make sense to me. </quote> my point was that the entire basis for this bills existence is "well, they had to wait a pretty long time, cause a lot came in at once, and we couldn't handle it" not something real like "the security in Afghanistan has worsened" or "we have to do it cause of law X" i was pointing out how ridiculous that would be if any other part of the government worked like that also <cite>BalanceLost posted...</cite> <quote>orphaned immigrant children </quote> i don't know about these specific people, but it's pretty common knowledge now that a lot of people who claim to be children, then turn out to be way older. but that's a whole other, though related discussion</quote> The wait time argument is a direct result of asylum laws though. There are international regulations about quick assessments and the cases from before November 2015 have failed to meet those standards. The SocDems have been ignoring asylum laws and trying to circumvent them by having our border controls take place on the Danish side of the border for example. And the security situation in Afghanistan has been depated for months but the SocDems have deported youngsters there anyway and will keep doing so until July 2018 at the very least since that is the earliest implementation of the bill if it passes through Riksdagen. And there are other legal areas where wait times are a thing like vrdgarantin and hktningar :P About immigrants pretending to be children: Hence why the medical age assessments which are more likely to say you are older than you actually are than the opposite. They have been done on these youngsters. And tough immigration laws is not the same as completely getting rid of all immigrants. The laws implemented since late 2015 are tough but sensible and economically sound. If Sverigedemokraterna gained power and implemented all their promised immigration laws, then our economy would tank from isolationism rather than be booming like it is now. Half of our GDP comes from exports and SDs policies would kill our trade. --- "BalanceLost has a steam-powered PS2 because Sweden don't have electric" - dimeanatrix</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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