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Topic	First he goes for their healthcare and now he's taking their Food Stamps.
Zeus 05/27/17 4:26:04 PM #23:	TES_Nut posted... Most people on food benefits are already working. While we're at it, social security and Medicare are funded by taxes specifically for those programs, cutting benefits doesn't do shit to cut the deficit or the debt. It's just an excuse for the uber rich to get richer and people like zeus let them get away with it. People like Erik also let them get away with it by being so insufferable that no one wants to listen. I know that it's hard for you to read, but this is specifically going after able-bodied people who don't work. And, because you don't seem to know this (and I'm not sure how), but food stamps aren't part of medicare or social security. And I'm not sure why you thought they were. And despite all of your ignorant class warfare claims, it's not a matter of the millionaires and billionaires, it's the fact that the money comes out of MY pocket as well. I'm stuck working extra to support people who CHOOSE not to work at all. Jen0125 posted... Zeus posted... Leaving the children with irresponsible parents is also causing them to suffer. Are you proposing fixing that problem as well? so you'd rather have them starve, then forcibly remove them from their parents because they're starving and pay more taxes to put them into the foster care system? that's the only to way "fix that problem." then you'll need MORE foster parents and that's MORE taxes than it would have been to just give them money for the fucking food in the first place. or we could give more tax money to sex education and funding for contraceptives for low income individuals but sex is icky and immoral so we don't want to pay anything for that. We need an overhauled foster system but, in general, getting them away from their parents ensures that they don't become the next generation of welfare recipients. If you're raised by people gaming the system, that's what becomes normal to you and you're effectively raised to game teh system. I'd rather spend more fixing one generation to avoid having far more like them next generation. More importantly, MOST OF THAT MONEY NEVER MAKES IT TO THE KIDS! The parents who have kids for welfare benefits tend to use most of the kids' benefits for their own uses so, in many cases, the only guaranteed meals that kids get are at school. Veedrock- posted... Food stamps are not the only source of food for struggling families. Children can get subsidized lunches at school and the program extends into summer in a lot of areas (can't find a coverage map admittedly). Food banks and other charitable operations are an option among other things. No they're not going to get a plethora of junk food and candy or those $40 steaks they would splurge stamps on, but they're not going hungry either. Which honestly has never made any sense since SNAP should cover free lunches but instead the kids are getting free lunches and the parents are getting free money. Then again, the only time you're guaranteed to see food actually reach the kid is with school lunches. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:879919902] in First he g... [t:75375375]...</cite> <quote><cite>TES_Nut posted...</cite> <quote>Most people on food benefits are already working. While we're at it, social security and Medicare are funded by taxes specifically for those programs, cutting benefits doesn't do shit to cut the deficit or the debt. It's just an excuse for the uber rich to get richer and people like zeus let them get away with it. People like Erik also let them get away with it by being so insufferable that no one wants to listen.</quote> I know that it's hard for you to read, but this is specifically going after able-bodied people who don't work. And, because you don't seem to know this (and I'm not sure how), but food stamps aren't part of medicare or social security. And I'm not sure why you thought they were. And despite all of your ignorant class warfare claims, it's not a matter of the millionaires and billionaires, it's the fact that the money comes out of MY pocket as well. I'm stuck working extra to support people who CHOOSE not to work at all. <cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Leaving the children with irresponsible parents is also causing them to suffer. Are you proposing fixing that problem as well?</quote> so you'd rather have them starve, then forcibly remove them from their parents because they're starving and pay more taxes to put them into the foster care system? that's the only to way "fix that problem." then you'll need MORE foster parents and that's MORE taxes than it would have been to just give them money for the fucking food in the first place. or we could give more tax money to sex education and funding for contraceptives for low income individuals but sex is icky and immoral so we don't want to pay anything for that.</quote> We need an overhauled foster system but, in general, getting them away from their parents ensures that they don't become the next generation of welfare recipients. If you're raised by people gaming the system, that's what becomes normal to you and you're effectively raised to game teh system. I'd rather spend more fixing one generation to avoid having far more like them next generation. More importantly, MOST OF THAT MONEY NEVER MAKES IT TO THE KIDS! The parents who have kids for welfare benefits tend to use most of the kids' benefits for their own uses so, in many cases, the only guaranteed meals that kids get are at school. <cite>Veedrock- posted...</cite> <quote>Food stamps are not the only source of food for struggling families. Children can get subsidized lunches at school and the program extends into summer in a lot of areas (can't find a coverage map admittedly). Food banks and other charitable operations are an option among other things. No they're not going to get a plethora of junk food and candy or those $40 steaks they would splurge stamps on, but they're not going hungry either.</quote> Which honestly has never made any sense since SNAP should cover free lunches but instead the kids are getting free lunches and the parents are getting free money. Then again, the only time you're guaranteed to see food actually reach the kid is with school lunches. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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