Gwindor posted...
I have no idea what some of you are talking about sometimes. I've always felt like I had no laning presence with Annie.
Here's a list of champions I can think of that can always win a solo lane against Annie.
Anivia
Ashe
Brand
Caitlyn
Ezreal
Fiddlesticks
Gangplank
Heimerdinger
Miss Fortune
Vayne
Vladimir
These are the ones you just plain can't do anything about. With most other champions, your odds are more fair, but it's never even remotely easy.
You will always lose a 2v1 as Annie. Any two champions in the game can kill you while you're at full health. You can stop this from happening by not walking past your lane's halfway point. But if your opponents have some form of CC, then you're not safe even that far out. You have to play the entire lane inside flash range of your turret.
Same thing applies to 2v2. There have been plenty of times where my two opponents have ignored my ally completely to run in and kill me from full health. If you're ally can't get people off of you, it's the same situation as a 2v1.
The only saving grace I have is that most people don't realize how fast they can make Annie's health drop by playing aggressively. Or they're intimidated by a laning partner they don't really need to worry about.
Sure, you can disintigrate them for gobs off their health, but it doesn't matter when they can immediately kill you afterward. I'm not saying Annie is a terrible laner, but some of you people make it sound like she's god mode.
That list is really bad. Tackling it point by point:
-Anivia wins if she's better. Fire vs. Ice is a tossup.
-Ashe wins if, and it's a big if, she can manage her mana very efficiently and poke annie down enough that an ECA+Volley+Crit Auto chain can down her or leave her close enough that she can tank her opening burst before tibbers kills her. The matchup is probably 6-4 in Annie's favor because she punishes ashe much harder for much smaller mistakes.
-Brand is...ehhhhhh, iffy. Brand has to be on the ball to win it and HAS to stun annie, but not impossible. I'd say this matchup is 55-45 Annie because she can stun brand more easily.
-Caitlyn is like Ashe but easier. She can beat Annie. 50-50 mathcup.
-Ezreal is like Ashe, but WAY easier. He has an advantageous matchup against Annie due to creep-bypassing. 60-40 in his favor IMO.
-Fiddles loses against annie unless she's super dumb and gets silenced thrice. No way around it, the combo bursts stix down. 70-30 Annie if I had to put a value to it, maybe 80-20.
-Gangplank CAN win against annie, but he can also lose. They will most likely ignore each other, really. 50-50 odds I'd say.
-Heimer gets punked by annie if she plays safe pre-6. Sorry, but it's the truth when you're a squishy dude like heimerloler! 65-35 Annie, since Heimer DOES have lots of safeish harass.
-MF is at a disadvantage against annie up to a point, but it's nothing major. A skilled MF could win it. 55-45 Annie.
-lol vayne. A character with no range doesn't cut it. 80-20 Annie, Vayne WILL lose trades.
-Vlad is weird. If I had to guess, he wins against Annie, but it's a very drawn-out battle and he has to be smart about the pools. Something like 65-35 in his favor maybe?
But yeah, list is bad. Annie is beaten by tanky men, not squishy dudes. Send a Yorick to face her and she dies horribly for instance.
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