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TopicDave Chappelle's Netflix specials.
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10/31/21 12:11:07 AM
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HaRRicH posted...
I was gonna leave this topic alone as a relic of me not reading the room well and asking about Chappelle in a comedy context at a time he's being viewed in a political context. That said, the topic's been brought back to life twice so...

...best post in here, appreciate the video.

Glad to see it appreciated! If you enjoyed that one she's put out a second yesterday tackling a few more things she didn't yet cover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDxv9yMNZow

First half on some of the aftermath, using "cancellation" as a marketing tool that further stokes divisions against the trans community while dismissing honest criticism, (good quote at the end) "it allows people to get angry about trans people, without listening to trans people".

Second half touches on Chappelle's framing of Daphne within the special which the first video didn't cover, and I'd rather leave to people to watch her video to understand. But really pointing out indeed the framing of the larger trans community as adversarial in an us vs them rhetoric - specifically distinguishing Daphne from the rest of us.

Adding my own commentary for a moment here: Suicide isn't exactly new to the trans community, and for once Chappelle finally an audience of cis folks to feel that pain.... because he can relate it to himself. It's a pain the audience can feel from Chappelle, someone they look up to, and feel for themselves.

Going back to the video, but unfortunately with the adversarial framing Chappelle uses, he targets this emotional distress against the trans community - even if unintentional, it's an immensely heavy weight and yes one he leans on the trans community as causing with statements that "they was going in on her" - mind you, an impression we can only rely on Chappelle to be telling accurately. Believe what you will but this absolutely will stir anger towards the trans community within this audience, and in all honesty a number of incensed listeners will go out and repeat that exact same harassment Daphne may have faced against other members of the trans community. As they have, even with all the nuance in the world Jessie gave in her first video receiving a mountain of vile comments against it, ignoring her arguments. It's incredibly insincere to end on such a strong statement for Daphne without at all considering many many more trans women online going through the same shit, and at best cluelessly inflaming it. It's also powerful as Jessie points out the harassment she herself receives... is completely mirrored in the more casual jokes Chappelle himself tells.

Video ends off covering the broader conversation of weaponization tactics by transphobes online, as well as pointing towards good trans comedy even by cis folks (even as including Chappelle's own theys joke in The Closer as such a positive example). I didn't really intend to summarize with as large a post I'm ending up with here, but I think it's just a really important and difficult conversation to make on unintended effects of adversarial framing that doesn't get understood by people who unironically complain about "us vs them" mentality within the context of "cancel culture", without taking note of where that dichotomy is growing from.

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