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FatalAccident posted...

Sage I thought you worked in a hospital? Or is all this coming from friends you know who work in film

Nah, in the film biz.

DirtBasedSoap posted...

i have no idea if this is real or not but holy shit if it is

First I've heard of it, but the picture used is old, from somewhere else, so already kinda questionable.

That said, I wouldn't think you'd need much by way of experience or qualifications to know not to bring live ammo onto a set. As much as I hate to armchair armourer (... armchairourer?), that seems like extremely basic common sense.

Correct, live rounds should never be on a film set. There's just no reason for it, when blanks and other methods can convey gunshots easily. We had lots of guns on my recent shoot, but they were all fake, and BB guns in many cases, so we didn't even employ an armorer (amorers are only used really when the film in question uses antique guns, or is extremely gun heavy/war movies).

In this case, apparently the armorer in question appeared on a podcast a month ago, where she admitted she didn't feel quite ready for the show yet, as it was only her second time doing it. THAT said, she's also the daughter of a legendary armorer/quick-draw champion Thell Reed, who helped train her, so I find it very unlikely she would make such a rookie mistake as having live ammo on the set. I'm more willing to put my money on the Props Master.

Again, tho, when guns are on set, fake, real, toys, etc., there's supposed to be a whole process. Safety memos about guns are emailed out, the safety meeting in the morning should discuss guns. Even then, you're not supposed to just trust the Prop Master/armorer on their words when it comes to guns. They should demonstrate to the 1st AD, if not the entire crew, that the gun is fake/unloaded. Loading of blanks should even be witnessed by other Crew members. And you are also told to NEVER point a gun, even a known fake one, at someone on set - you aim off the person (well over their should or off to their side), and cheat the camera. Which is why Baldwin could be culpable still, since it sounds like he didn't do this. And finally, the person using the gun should inspect it themselves.

Basically, there's supposed to be numerous layers to gun safety on set that should make what happened impossible. This is beyond even just one person. And as with the Sarah Jones case, multiple people should be in jail for this likely, including the Producers and 1st AD. The most damning fact is that the camera Crew resigned the night before, in part naming numerous gun misfires on set, and poor gun safety observed. This was less an "accident" and more of an on-going issue.

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