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Topic	If you refuse to get vaccinated you should be refused ER/Hospital Care.
adjl 09/02/21 12:55:03 PM #52:	BUMPED2002 posted... Each one of us is responsible for our own health and that means we have to make choices good or bad on what's right for us individually in regards to our own health. That's the thing, though: This is not just about one's own health. If it were, fine, do whatever, but people who have refused the Covid vaccine are now making up the vast majority of hospitalized cases, and there are enough of them that many ICU's are unable to accept new patients, regardless of why those patients need ICU care. A guy died in Kansas after waiting 3 days for an ICU bed to open, when he needed the spot because of surgical complications (not anything related to taking any sort of personal Covid-based risk). That's not okay. The unvaccinated people clogging up those ICU's killed him by "making their own choices for their health." That's the root of the problem here: when the decisions you make about your own health start hurting other people, you need to stop making those decisions. Anyone who doesn't should expect to face consequences from whatever agencies are responsible for preventing them from harming other people (namely, the government). BUMPED2002 posted... People react to vaccines differently and no one knows what reaction may come with being vaccinated until they get the vaccine. Fortunately, there are reams of data out there on the risks associated with the vaccines that will allow people to make informed risk analyses (analyses which - for anyone that understands that 10 is a smaller number than 10,000 and doesn't have a previously identified exacerbating factor - overwhelmingly favour vaccination), as well as medical professionals that can assess one's personal medical history to determine whether or not they are at greater risk than the general population. This "no one knows how they'll react" spiel is nonsense that ignores basic risk assessment and does not in any way justify choosing not to get the vaccine. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:957671746] in If you ref... [t:79634091]...</cite> <quote>BUMPED2002 posted... </cite> <quote>Each one of us is responsible for our own health and that means we have to make choices good or bad on what's right for us individually in regards to our own health.</quote> That's the thing, though: This is not just about one's own health. If it were, fine, do whatever, but people who have refused the Covid vaccine are now making up the vast majority of hospitalized cases, and there are enough of them that many ICU's are unable to accept new patients, regardless of why those patients need ICU care. A guy died in Kansas after waiting 3 days for an ICU bed to open, when he needed the spot because of surgical complications (not anything related to taking any sort of personal Covid-based risk). That's not okay. The unvaccinated people clogging up those ICU's killed him by "making their own choices for their health." That's the root of the problem here: when the decisions you make about your own health start hurting other people, you need to stop making those decisions. Anyone who doesn't should expect to face consequences from whatever agencies are responsible for preventing them from harming other people (namely, the government). BUMPED2002 posted... </cite> <quote>People react to vaccines differently and no one knows what reaction may come with being vaccinated until they get the vaccine.</quote> Fortunately, there are reams of data out there on the risks associated with the vaccines that will allow people to make informed risk analyses (analyses which - for anyone that understands that 10 is a smaller number than 10,000 and doesn't have a previously identified exacerbating factor - overwhelmingly favour vaccination), as well as medical professionals that can assess one's personal medical history to determine whether or not they are at greater risk than the general population. This "no one knows how they'll react" spiel is nonsense that ignores basic risk assessment and does not in any way justify choosing not to get the vaccine. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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