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Topic	It looks like Dan Avidan of NinjaSexParty/Game Grumps is accused of grooming.
PrivateBiscuit1 03/25/21 3:10:28 AM #169:	ExThaNemesis posted... what are y'all even arguing about here i feel like everyone pretty much agrees but a few people REALLY want Dan to be labeled as an irredeemable scumbag over this and so the reaction is similar from the other side in response to that extreme can't we just say "Yeah he kinda sucks" and call it a day. ExThaNemesis posted... no real abuse happened here btw. shitty actions by a likely shitty person but abuse? c'mon A shitty action with actual intent can be abuse, yes. If a man hits a woman once, do you say that's abuse or do you say "this is just a shitty action by a shitty person"? You guys frankly don't understand how being lied to for months to over a year can fuck someone up, then be used for sex, and then never contacted again can really mess someone up. If you can't understand that's abuse, I don't know what to tell you. Just because he didn't pump and ghost them more than once somehow doesn't make it less than abuse. And it's not even an isolated incident. This is what he's done to at least a dozen witnesses, all of which are women in their early 20s fresh out of high school. These pathetic takes of "wow what about a women's autonomy" are gross. If these women went into this WITHOUT being lied to, being told up front "Yeah, we're just going to have sex. No strings attached" and that was it, sure. If it was some rando and not a celebrity they've witnessed a thousand hours of them, yeah. Sure. But talking about a women's autonomy when they're lied to for months upon months and led to believe that there is something more to come from this, and it's by someone they idolize and adore and made them feel special? No, it's not that simple anymore. You don't actually have full autonomy anymore. Because someone else is warping the stakes of it to such a degree that, if they knew the actual truth of the situation and the dynamic was different, they likely wouldn't make the same decision. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:952089311] in It looks l... [t:79365385]...</cite> <quote>ExThaNemesis posted... </cite> <quote>what are y'all even arguing about here i feel like everyone pretty much agrees but a few people REALLY want Dan to be labeled as an irredeemable scumbag over this and so the reaction is similar from the other side in response to that extreme can't we just say "Yeah he kinda sucks" and call it a day.</quote> ExThaNemesis posted... </cite> <quote>no real abuse happened here btw. shitty actions by a likely shitty person but abuse? c'mon</quote> A shitty action with actual intent can be abuse, yes. If a man hits a woman once, do you say that's abuse or do you say "this is just a shitty action by a shitty person"? You guys frankly don't understand how being lied to for months to over a year can fuck someone up, then be used for sex, and then never contacted again can really mess someone up. If you can't understand that's abuse, I don't know what to tell you. Just because he didn't pump and ghost them more than once somehow doesn't make it less than abuse. And it's not even an isolated incident. This is what he's done to at least a dozen witnesses, all of which are women in their early 20s fresh out of high school. These pathetic takes of "wow what about a women's autonomy" are gross. If these women went into this WITHOUT being lied to, being told up front "Yeah, we're just going to have sex. No strings attached" and that was it, sure. If it was some rando and not a celebrity they've witnessed a thousand hours of them, yeah. Sure. But talking about a women's autonomy when they're lied to for months upon months and led to believe that there is something more to come from this, and it's by someone they idolize and adore and made them feel special? No, it's not that simple anymore. You don't actually have full autonomy anymore. Because someone else is warping the stakes of it to such a degree that, if they knew the actual truth of the situation and the dynamic was different, they likely wouldn't make the same decision. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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