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Topic	Politics Containment Topic 352: Cool Aid, Man
xp1337 12/26/20 1:04:20 AM #34:	LordoftheMorons posted... If he refuses to sign or veto anything he could unilaterally force a shutdown until Bidens inauguration, right? Technically, I think the new Congress could hypothetically veto override him if they could get a bill/CR to him. New Congress can convene at Noon on Jan 3. From there there should be 14 days until the inauguration (again skipping Sundays since they don't count against the time a President has to sign/not sign a bill) so if they could get a new bill to him by Jan 8 he'd have to act. Either he vetoes (but he could stall that out the full 10 days sure) and Congress would be able to override or he does nothing in which case it automatically becomes law (the pocket veto thing only works when Congress goes out of session and it would be pretty trivial for them to stay in session to prevent that from happening. It's only an issue now because the 116th Congress literally ends on Jan 3 with the new Congress coming in.) Thaaaaaat said, the new Congress would be starting from the very beginning of the process again because all bills not signed into law at the end of the Congress are dead and I don't know if they could fast track something from scratch that quickly without unanimous consent which lets them cut through much of the process stuff... and given you only need one guy like Rand Paul or any number of House GOP crazies (and we have literal QAnon believers in now) to ruin that... idk. So like, tl;dr: Probably? Technically if Congress tried to speedrun legislation they might be able to force a reopening over Trump's objections like 4-5 days before Biden's inauguration if he chose to obstruct them but I think that would require no one in Congress to be an ass about it and even one could probably slow it down. But even if they broke a speed record somehow Trump could unilaterally stall them nearly all the way, until Jan 14th or Jan 15th at least (in the almost impossible scenario Congress gets him a bill from scratch in the literal half of a day that is their first day.) --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:948765202] in Politics C... [t:79197726]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted... </cite> <quote>If he refuses to sign or veto anything he could unilaterally force a shutdown until Bidens inauguration, right?</quote>Technically, I think the new Congress could hypothetically veto override him if they could get a bill/CR to him. New Congress can convene at Noon on Jan 3. From there there should be 14 days until the inauguration (again skipping Sundays since they don't count against the time a President has to sign/not sign a bill) so if they could get a new bill to him by Jan 8 he'd have to act. Either he vetoes (but he could stall that out the full 10 days sure) and Congress would be able to override or he does nothing in which case it automatically becomes law (the pocket veto thing only works when Congress goes out of session and it would be pretty trivial for them to stay in session to prevent that from happening. It's only an issue now because the 116th Congress literally ends on Jan 3 with the new Congress coming in.) Thaaaaaat said, the new Congress would be starting from the very beginning of the process again because all bills not signed into law at the end of the Congress are dead and I don't know if they could fast track something from scratch that quickly without unanimous consent which lets them cut through much of the process stuff... and given you only need one guy like Rand Paul or any number of House GOP crazies (and we have literal QAnon believers in now) to ruin that... idk. So like, tl;dr: Probably? Technically if Congress tried to speedrun legislation they might be able to force a reopening over Trump's objections like 4-5 days before Biden's inauguration if he chose to obstruct them but I think that would require no one in Congress to be an ass about it and even one could probably slow it down. But even if they broke a speed record somehow Trump could unilaterally stall them nearly all the way, until Jan 14th or Jan 15th at least (in the almost impossible scenario Congress gets him a bill from scratch in the literal half of a day that is their first day.) --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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