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Topic	28 Geeks Later
Aaantlion 08/22/20 6:10:17 AM #166:	ParanoidObsessive posted... Cena was mostly the company golden boy at a time when he didn't really have all that many other options or obligations. It was before Hollywood was calling, If Hollywood is calling, they must have the wrong number. It's not like he's done all that much. Hell, I had to check his wikipedia to see what he's been in -- something I don't even have to do for Batista (who got big in the WWE right at the same time as Cena, but had major opportunities sooner and more consistently left to pursue other opportunities). ParanoidObsessive posted... It's like when people will occasionally shit on Steve Austin for "taking his ball and going home". Sure, you can say he didn't care about the business or he was being selfish or whatever, but when you actually know all the details, Austin was kind of 100% in the right in that situation, and pretty much fully justified in saying "Yeah, no, that doesn't really work for me". When you say stuff like "Oh, he didn't care about the business/fans/etc!", all you're really doing is parroting back the WWE party line that they used to kind of slander him at the time because god knows no one in that company will ever take responsibility for anything. Doesn't even Austin kinda regret that now? ParanoidObsessive posted... Though honestly, why SHOULD anyone ever be loyal to that company in any way? It's not a matter of being "loyal to the company" (although some wrestlers have had good careers simply for being company men and there's certainly something to be said for talent having long-term arrangements), it's about being loyal to the business. Indie guys like Bryan Danielson and John Moxly eat, sleep, and breathe wrestling. They're a world apart from somebody like Roman Reigns who only got into it because he saw the kind of success his cousin had. I've never been a fan of Bryan, but I can respect him. Even if I'm someday a Reigns fan -- and it won't be for his wrestling -- I'll never respect him... at least not as a wrestler. ParanoidObsessive posted... At this point, the paycheck is pretty much the only reason TO sign with the WWE. Then you just have to hope they don't decide to fire you a few weeks after you sign because they changed their minds (yay job security!). Those contracts would be tossed out if they tried firing you a week later. You can have whatever on paper, but good luck enforcing a non-compete under those conditions. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| Scientists are finally waking up to what pyramids have known all along. <cite>Aaantlion posted [p:943678912] in 28 Geeks L... [t:78893470]...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote>Cena was mostly the company golden boy at a time when he didn't really have all that many other options or obligations. It was before Hollywood was calling,</quote> If Hollywood is calling, they must have the wrong number. It's not like he's done all that much. Hell, I had to check his wikipedia to see what he's been in -- something I don't even have to do for Batista (who got big in the WWE right at the same time as Cena, but had major opportunities sooner and more consistently left to pursue other opportunities). ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote>It's like when people will occasionally shit on Steve Austin for "taking his ball and going home". Sure, you can say he didn't care about the business or he was being selfish or whatever, but when you actually know all the details, Austin was kind of 100% in the right in that situation, and pretty much fully justified in saying "Yeah, no, that doesn't really work for me". When you say stuff like "Oh, he didn't care about the business/fans/etc!", all you're really doing is parroting back the WWE party line that they used to kind of slander him at the time because god knows no one in that company will ever take responsibility for anything.</quote> Doesn't even Austin kinda regret that now? ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote>Though honestly, why SHOULD anyone ever be loyal to that company in any way?</quote> It's not a matter of being "loyal to the company" (although some wrestlers have had good careers simply for being company men and there's certainly something to be said for talent having long-term arrangements), it's about being loyal to the business. Indie guys like Bryan Danielson and John Moxly eat, sleep, and breathe wrestling. They're a world apart from somebody like Roman Reigns who only got into it because he saw the kind of success his cousin had. I've never been a fan of Bryan, but I can respect him. Even if I'm someday a Reigns fan -- and it won't be for his wrestling -- I'll never respect him... at least not as a wrestler. ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote>At this point, the paycheck is pretty much the only reason TO sign with the WWE. Then you just have to hope they don't decide to fire you a few weeks after you sign because they changed their minds (yay job security!).</quote> Those contracts would be tossed out if they tried firing you a week later. You can have whatever on paper, but good luck enforcing a non-compete under those conditions. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| Scientists are finally waking up to what pyramids have known all along.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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