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Topic	"If theres no money for universal healthcare, how do we pay for war"?
joe40001 01/05/20 6:14:25 AM #22:	Keith_Valentine posted... Id rather pay for healthcare than wars, and im conservative. Hasnt research shown that the quality of care goes down, however, and people have to wait longer? I dont like the system we have now because its so expensive but we also have the best hospitals in the world. I dont know how we would go about making it more affordable to see a doctor, it didnt used to be like this. But if you are poor, medicaid already helps millions of people. But if you get some serious illness and have no health insurance you are in trouble. I dont know enough about it to say what should be fixed. The data shows the quality of care the US receives is not in keeping with how much it spends by a fairly large margin. The way the industry is structured much of the things like "comparison shopping" that factor into what makes capitalism work can't come into play when there are medical emergencies. Plus companies can price gouge things like insulin and people really have no recourse. If we stuck to more conservative capitalist ideals somebody else could just come in and sell better insulin at a cheaper price. 10 years ago a 55 inch LED Samsung HDTV cost $3,020 now a 55 inch LED Samsung 4K HDTV costs $350 10 years ago a vile of insulin cost about $93 now it costs $290, and this is the exact same product. This is not how capitalism is supposed to work. I don't care how many times fox news tells somebody "but america has the best doctors/hospitals" that 1. doesn't make it true, and 2. completely ignores the horrible anti-capitalist anti-american anti-human price gouging that is going on. I don't know how many people have to die of not being able to afford something whose patent was sold for 1 dollar in 1923 (because the inventors wanted all people to have access to it) for some people to wake up to see just how horrible and in desperate need of change our medical system needs to be. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:932489441] in "If t... [t:78306932]...</cite> <quote>Keith_Valentine posted... </cite> <quote>Id rather pay for healthcare than wars, and im conservative. Hasnt research shown that the quality of care goes down, however, and people have to wait longer? I dont like the system we have now because its so expensive but we also have the best hospitals in the world. I dont know how we would go about making it more affordable to see a doctor, it didnt used to be like this. But if you are poor, medicaid already helps millions of people. But if you get some serious illness and have no health insurance you are in trouble. I dont know enough about it to say what should be fixed.</quote> The data shows the quality of care the US receives is not in keeping with how much it spends by a fairly large margin. The way the industry is structured much of the things like "comparison shopping" that factor into what makes capitalism work can't come into play when there are medical emergencies. Plus companies can price gouge things like insulin and people really have no recourse. If we stuck to more conservative capitalist ideals somebody else could just come in and sell better insulin at a cheaper price. 10 years ago a 55 inch LED Samsung HDTV cost $3,020 now a 55 inch LED Samsung 4K HDTV costs $350 10 years ago a vile of insulin cost about $93 now it costs $290, and this is the exact same product. This is not how capitalism is supposed to work. I don't care how many times fox news tells somebody "but america has the best doctors/hospitals" that 1. doesn't make it true, and 2. completely ignores the horrible anti-capitalist anti-american anti-human price gouging that is going on. I don't know how many people have to die of not being able to afford something whose patent was sold for 1 dollar in 1923 (because the inventors wanted all people to have access to it) for some people to wake up to see just how horrible and in desperate need of change our medical system needs to be. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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