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Topic	'The Rise of Skywalker' takes flight after the rise of the 'Star Wars' trolls
AvantgardeAClue 12/16/19 2:03:45 AM #42:	Doom_Art posted... I mean "get over it" is a perfectly valid response when you dislike something that ultimately has little to no effect on your life. What a nihilistic, cynical approach to modern entertainment. Keyword, entertain. If there was no incentive to improve the entertainment, then there would be no reason to continue putting money into it. Retail sales have been on the decline since TFA and moreso with TLJ. Solo actually bombed in the long run. My individual purchase of any Star Wars content may not mean much, but on a bigger scale, it'll start to hurt. Some people may be a little more outspoken about it than the likes of me, but the ones who just straight up gave up on the franchise are probably the biggest casualties of this entire thing. I've seen people who preordered tickets to TLJ that have zero interest in seeing TRoS. People are quick to say that this series isn't made in favor of them anymore, but the fact still remains that it used to feel like it was, and something changed along the way for that to happen. Doom_Art posted... I can go to my local bookstore and by reprints of literally every single Star Wars book released before Disney bought the franchise. I can also read every SW comic published before 2012 And? Them being still in-print is not the issue here. I can virtually do the same on a Kindle. The issue is that all of the EU content is not only now officially glorified fanfiction instead of being part of a larger world, but KK's Freudian excuse of "not enough original source material" completely falls flat in the face of it all. Doom_Art posted... And hey, this will sound super crazy to you, but I have nearly every major Star Wars game released before Disney bought the franchise on my Steam account. I can literally play them whenever I want. Believe it or not, that's pretty much something I'd expect from someone who is in favor of the ST. "I've been here there and now, and I like the now. Nothing's wrong with the now!" Hell, it would've been even weirder if you did have Battlefront 2. Doom_Art posted... I remember people melting down over Endgame leaks. Forming an opinion over a movie that hasn't released yet is silly. You before a TLJ released: Just wait before it comes out before you form an opinion After TLJ released: Well people liked it a lot so don't you feel in the wrong here Those leaks sounded absolutely awful and JJ are not the Russos. If ~~Rey actually calls herself a Skywalker to a stranger~~ in order to oblige the title then I don't think watching it in person is going to change how stupid that is gonna feel. ledbowman posted... Yeah it's sad that a lot of the people who whine incessantly about TLJ can't accept that it was well received Didn't I just mention how even trash like Black Ops 4 will be consumed in great volumes regardless of quality? A lot of reviewers are also inclined to give favorable reviews or risk losing Disney reviewer benefits. This is nothing new to the industry. Doom_Art posted... i mean that's literally what the relationship between a consumer and a company is they put out a product and you buy it Didn't you just say this wasn't "shut up and consume product"? Part of being a consumer is being able to give feedback when the consumer believes something is wrong with the product. Restaurant food tastes off, consumer asks for something to be changed, company usually obliges the change. Game is bugged, the consumer gives feedback. Company improves game. Why should this be any different with Star Wars, especially when Disney views it as another IP at the end of the day? Movie sucks, consumer gives feedback, next movie undergoes some saving throws. But the changes don't happen if people pretend that everything went well. --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:931650741] in 'The Rise ... [t:78253850]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>I mean "get over it" is a perfectly valid response when you dislike something that ultimately has little to no effect on your life.</quote> What a nihilistic, cynical approach to modern entertainment. Keyword, entertain. If there was no incentive to improve the entertainment, then there would be no reason to continue putting money into it. Retail sales have been on the decline since TFA and moreso with TLJ. Solo actually bombed in the long run. My individual purchase of any Star Wars content may not mean much, but on a bigger scale, it'll start to hurt. Some people may be a little more outspoken about it than the likes of me, but the ones who just straight up gave up on the franchise are probably the biggest casualties of this entire thing. I've seen people who preordered tickets to TLJ that have zero interest in seeing TRoS. People are quick to say that this series isn't made in favor of them anymore, but the fact still remains that it used to feel like it was, and something changed along the way for that to happen. Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>I can go to my local bookstore and by reprints of literally every single Star Wars book released before Disney bought the franchise. I can also read every SW comic published before 2012</quote> And? Them being still in-print is not the issue here. I can virtually do the same on a Kindle. The issue is that all of the EU content is not only now officially glorified fanfiction instead of being part of a larger world, but KK's Freudian excuse of "not enough original source material" completely falls flat in the face of it all. Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote> And hey, this will sound super crazy to you, but I have nearly every major Star Wars game released before Disney bought the franchise on my Steam account. I can literally play them whenever I want.</quote> Believe it or not, that's pretty much something I'd expect from someone who is in favor of the ST. "I've been here there and now, and I like the now. Nothing's wrong with the now!" Hell, it would've been even weirder if you did have Battlefront 2. Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>I remember people melting down over Endgame leaks. Forming an opinion over a movie that hasn't released yet is silly.</quote> You before a TLJ released: Just wait before it comes out before you form an opinion After TLJ released: Well people liked it a lot so don't you feel in the wrong here Those leaks sounded absolutely awful and JJ are not the Russos. If Rey actually calls herself a Skywalker to a stranger in order to oblige the title then I don't think watching it in person is going to change how stupid that is gonna feel. ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah it's sad that a lot of the people who whine incessantly about TLJ can't accept that it was well received</quote> Didn't I just mention how even trash like Black Ops 4 will be consumed in great volumes regardless of quality? A lot of reviewers are also inclined to give favorable reviews or risk losing Disney reviewer benefits. This is nothing new to the industry. Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>i mean that's literally what the relationship between a consumer and a company is they put out a product and you buy it </quote> Didn't you just say this wasn't "shut up and consume product"? Part of being a consumer is being able to give feedback when the consumer believes something is wrong with the product. Restaurant food tastes off, consumer asks for something to be changed, company usually obliges the change. Game is bugged, the consumer gives feedback. Company improves game. Why should this be any different with Star Wars, especially when Disney views it as another IP at the end of the day? Movie sucks, consumer gives feedback, next movie undergoes some saving throws. But the changes don't happen if people pretend that everything went well. --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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