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Topic	Are universities giant scams these days?
Zeus 09/27/18 12:41:46 PM #34:	Well, a college degree doesn't have the value it once did and a college education isn't as good as it used to be, that's for sure. However, that's not just the colleges' fault. The amount of people with degrees (which has steadily increased thanks to government loans, etc) has inundated the job market and the overall economy is relatively stagnant outside of a few industries. That said, a bachelors is the minimum requirement for countless jobs these days. Granted, you could probably get around it through independent study, internships, etc, since at the end of the day employers really care about what you can do and somebody without a degree who can demonstrate their value is more likely to get a job than somebody with a degree who can't prove their worth beyond having a degree. Otherwise there are certainly colleges that engage in scam practices, such as lying about job placement rates and the success of their graduates in order to attract students. OhhhJa posted... it seems to me that taking much cheaper online courses Online colleges in theory might be a better value, but many -- if not most -- of them are bigger scams. Viking_Mudcrap posted... Hell no. You know what a University title shows? That you have commitment and you stuck thru your education. Potential employees love that shit. Now, if you are planning on running your own business, then yes, you probably do not need a higher education baring you know how to read. I love how a post promoting education has those kinds of mistakes. =p Otherwise, for fields not looking for a degree (and even many requiring one), the "commitment" sought by employers usually takes the form of job history. Viking_Mudcrap posted... TES_Nut posted... Criminally overpriced but not a scam. Seems to me like they are not, otherwise no one would go to school and every University would be out of business. Like, things can only be priced at whatever people are willing to pay. Completely untrue. Given that the college industry is based heavily around loans to compensate for rising tuition, etc, the entire system has sometimes been compared to the Housing Bubble. And, of course, many colleges are directly subsidized by the government (in addition to being indirectly subsidized by government-backed loans) --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:909544088] in Are univer... [t:77044843]...</cite> <quote>Well, a college degree doesn't have the value it once did and a college education isn't as good as it used to be, that's for sure. However, that's not just the colleges' fault. The amount of people with degrees (which has steadily increased thanks to government loans, etc) has inundated the job market and the overall economy is relatively stagnant outside of a few industries. That said, a bachelors is the minimum requirement for countless jobs these days. Granted, you could probably get around it through independent study, internships, etc, since at the end of the day employers really care about what you can do and somebody without a degree who can demonstrate their value is more likely to get a job than somebody with a degree who can't prove their worth beyond having a degree. Otherwise there are certainly colleges that engage in scam practices, such as lying about job placement rates and the success of their graduates in order to attract students. <cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>it seems to me that taking much cheaper online courses </quote> Online colleges in theory might be a better value, but many -- if not most -- of them are bigger scams. <cite>Viking_Mudcrap posted...</cite> <quote>Hell no. You know what a University title shows? That you have commitment and you stuck thru your education. Potential employees love that shit. Now, if you are planning on running your own business, then yes, you probably do not need a higher education baring you know how to read.</quote> I love how a post promoting education has those kinds of mistakes. =p Otherwise, for fields not looking for a degree (and even many requiring one), the "commitment" sought by employers usually takes the form of job history. <cite>Viking_Mudcrap posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TES_Nut posted...</cite> <quote>Criminally overpriced but not a scam.</quote> Seems to me like they are not, otherwise no one would go to school and every University would be out of business. Like, things can only be priced at whatever people are willing to pay.</quote> Completely untrue. Given that the college industry is based heavily around loans to compensate for rising tuition, etc, the entire system has sometimes been compared to the Housing Bubble. And, of course, many colleges are directly subsidized by the government (in addition to being indirectly subsidized by government-backed loans) --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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