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Topic	Pregnant women in immigration detention under Trump saying been denied medical
Kyuubi4269 08/09/18 8:29:53 AM #153:	darkknight109 posted... Their recidivism rate is less than 20%. By comparison, the US - with one of the most punitive justice systems in the developed world - has a recidivism rate of 77%. Let that sink in for a moment. If prisons were a black box, where criminals go in one end and productive citizens are supposed to come out of the other, the US has a success rate of just 23%. If almost four out of every five products coming out of a factory were defective, that factory would be closed in a heartbeat - but America just accepts this state of affairs despite a plainly better method being available. Surprise! When you actually bother to help criminals get skills that allow them to live in a non-criminal fashion, they tend to actually be productive Norway and the US are vastly different culturally, it's reckless to just pick out parts that suit your agenda. As a neat counter point, Japan has a 46% recidivism rate and they arrest everyone they find and have all inmates work hard labour with no communication. Wouldn't that mean that America should be harsher to lower its recidivism rate? --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:906553325] in Pregnant w... [t:76798084]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>Their recidivism rate is less than 20%. By comparison, the US - with one of the most punitive justice systems in the developed world - has a recidivism rate of 77%. Let that sink in for a moment. If prisons were a black box, where criminals go in one end and productive citizens are supposed to come out of the other, the US has a success rate of just 23%. If almost four out of every five products coming out of a factory were defective, that factory would be closed in a heartbeat - but America just accepts this state of affairs despite a plainly better method being available. Surprise! When you actually bother to help criminals get skills that allow them to live in a non-criminal fashion, they tend to actually be productive</quote> Norway and the US are vastly different culturally, it's reckless to just pick out parts that suit your agenda. As a neat counter point, Japan has a 46% recidivism rate and they arrest everyone they find and have all inmates work hard labour with no communication. Wouldn't that mean that America should be harsher to lower its recidivism rate? --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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