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06/05/18 10:08:28 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
The downside there is that Carrie Fisher was pretty much in a downward spiral and would have been useless, and Harrison Ford would have cut his own arm off before starring in another Star Wars film (he only agreed to do Episode VII because they finally agreed to kill Han off), so they would have had to come up with logical story reasons to phase Leia and Han completely out of the new movies, which would have forced focus onto Luke.


idk, I kinda suspect that had the films continued, Carrie might have been in a better place (which, as I consider the phrasing, may be a poor choice of words). As for Harrison Ford, had they locked him into a longer contract, he could have cut off an arm and still be stuck starring in another few movies.

Granted, since Luke was the big draw, they could have just built things around him.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
Though if they'd gone that route, odds are you'd have gotten a story with Luke building a New Jedi Order only to have one of his students go Dark Side, so you'd probably get the exact same plot we got anyway, only in the "present" and not as backstory flashback.


Or they could have worked in some clone emperor shit or sent him off to the outer rim. There's always stuff for him to do and restoring the jedi order seems like something that might come later, possibly as a teaser ending to the potential trilogy. Then they could Jedi Academy down the road.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
The one sticking point where I would definitely have preferred immediate sequels is in the idea that a weakened Empire would continue fighting the Rebellion even in the wake of the Death Star/Emperor going boom, with factionalization and an imperial civil war making the overall conflict more complex. Are the Rebels willing to ally in the short term with an imperial remnant faction, or would they refuse? Would some imperial leaders be willing to "defect" to a rising New Republic if offered positions of power within its framework? Would the Rebellion realize too late that, in removing the Emperor and his somewhat heavy handed, "mystic" style of leadership, they've opened the door for a more popular, dynamic, strategic Imperial to take the throne and lead far more effective opposition?


While I've liked the idea as well, I'm not sure how well it would translate to film. Something like that feels more like a tv show... which, come to think of it, would have been a pretty awesome transition (other than maybe needing to recast some roles). Granted, the costs in general -- even with whatever they could recycle from the films -- might have been more than people would want to invest in tv shows at the time.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
Conversely, I would have preferred the new movies we got have the New Republic in them and not the phenomenally stupid First Order/Resistance scenario. By thirty fucking years later, the New Republic should be mostly in place, and the Imperial Remnant should be operating more like isolated enclaves of power or outright guerilla terrorists, with the balance of power completely flipped. But they wanted to mimic the power balance of the original trilogy so closely, so they just did exactly the same thing with different names, and gave absolutely no explanation for how things worked out that way.


idk, even with 2 Death Stars down and the Emperor gone, it seems like there was enough military strength and leadership left to continue putting up a fight. And, given the leadership structure, it *might* have been possible to avoid the whole operation splintering.
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