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Topic	Japan suffers 37th consecutive year of low birthrate, Japanese people may become
Zeus 05/07/18 3:29:21 AM #54:	Spooking posted... iPhone_7 posted... Japan is leading the way in combating overpopulation. This. With automation fast approaching we don't need 7 billion+ people on this planet. What is everybody going to do for money when robots have all the jobs? We need to start thinking about population control before we see mass starvation and violence in our streets. Japan is ahead of the curve. It's never been a matter of "needing" 7b people and, more importantly, if 100% automation did occur -- which it won't -- there wouldn't be need for any humans. Nor would mass starvation or violence be an issue if you had 7b people in a fully automated system. DoctorVader posted... Society around the world is going to collapse because of overpopulation and other crap. We're eventually all going to end up like Japan. Not a realistic concern. If a system is run badly, it'll fail no matter how small the population. And, if a system is run incredibly, it can sustain far more than we have now. Kazi1212 posted... What major problems would potentially arise if Japans population dwindled down significantly in the next decades? Wouldnt there be more wealth for them to go around? There would be substantial short-term problems. As for long-term impact, it's hard to say. While there'd certainly be more available land with fewer people, there's no guarantee that there'd be more wealth since the country's economy would shrink as well (and, as opportunity dwindles, the nation's best and brightest would likely leave for other nations). More pragmatically, it would also make Japan more likely to import workers so the ethnic-Japanese population might shrink but other groups would grow. As it stands, Japan's foreign worker program has grown at an unprecedented rate. butthole666 posted... This is what late capitalism looks like Capitalism literally culminates in the collapse of society. It crushes the general population by design, slowly moving its sights up the economic ladder over generations, until there's nobody and nothing left to prop up the extremely wealthy and everything left comes crashing down. Too bad it's not a socialist paradise like Venezuela, eh, comrade? Vikilla4V posted... japan will just start automating their workforce, they'll never accept more immigrants ...lolwut? Tell that to the ever-growing number of foreign workers in their country. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:900928721] in Japan suff... [t:76585083]...</cite> <quote><cite>Spooking posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iPhone_7 posted...</cite> <quote>Japan is leading the way in combating overpopulation.</quote> This. With automation fast approaching we don't need 7 billion+ people on this planet. What is everybody going to do for money when robots have all the jobs? We need to start thinking about population control before we see mass starvation and violence in our streets. Japan is ahead of the curve.</quote> It's never been a matter of "needing" 7b people and, more importantly, if 100% automation did occur -- which it won't -- there wouldn't be need for any humans. Nor would mass starvation or violence be an issue if you had 7b people in a fully automated system. <cite>DoctorVader posted...</cite> <quote>Society around the world is going to collapse because of overpopulation and other crap. We're eventually all going to end up like Japan.</quote> Not a realistic concern. If a system is run badly, it'll fail no matter how small the population. And, if a system is run incredibly, it can sustain far more than we have now. <cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>What major problems would potentially arise if Japans population dwindled down significantly in the next decades? Wouldnt there be more wealth for them to go around?</quote> There would be substantial short-term problems. As for long-term impact, it's hard to say. While there'd certainly be more available land with fewer people, there's no guarantee that there'd be more wealth since the country's economy would shrink as well (and, as opportunity dwindles, the nation's best and brightest would likely leave for other nations). More pragmatically, it would also make Japan more likely to import workers so the ethnic-Japanese population might shrink but other groups would grow. As it stands, Japan's foreign worker program has grown at an unprecedented rate. <cite>butthole666 posted...</cite> <quote>This is what late capitalism looks like Capitalism literally culminates in the collapse of society. It crushes the general population by design, slowly moving its sights up the economic ladder over generations, until there's nobody and nothing left to prop up the extremely wealthy and everything left comes crashing down.</quote> Too bad it's not a socialist paradise like Venezuela, eh, comrade? <cite>Vikilla4V posted...</cite> <quote>japan will just start automating their workforce, they'll never accept more immigrants</quote> ...lolwut? Tell that to the ever-growing number of foreign workers in their country. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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