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Topic	Spider-Geek: Homecoming
Zeus 06/06/17 2:45:09 AM #378:	ParanoidObsessive posted... Zeus posted... Even if anybody in this topic never bought another Nintendo console (which we know won't be the case) I'm in this topic, so you're already wrong. I haven't owned a Nintendo console since 1996-97 or so, and have zero interest in owning another any time soon. I meant to say "Even if everybody." From context, I would have assumed that the typo would be self-evident =x ParanoidObsessive posted... And based on their current business model, I'll be long dead before they come up with a tech concept or a game library enticing enough to make me start looking at them favorably again. That's actually part of why I usually zone out when people are talking about Nintendo, or just offer a cursory "don't care" sort of response rather than going into any real detail - I'm fully aware that Nintendo left me behind decades ago and has no intention of ever winning me back. So me rattling off a list of all the in-depth reasons why I don't care about [insert new Nintendo product here] would be like me listing all the reasons why I don't like a particular brand of tampons Is it just Nintendo you avoid? Are you still gaming on the other consoles? And are you just skipping handhelds? Entity13 posted... Not to me personally, but when I see patterns emerge I have to point them out or challenge them, because sometimes those patterns lead to bad outcomes. I see a potential bad outcome with how Nintendo has been doing things lately. In proving me wrong, they're proving that pattern wrong and are making a potentially better outcome for themselves. idk, savvy gamers (almost went to say smarks, since it has a similar connotation to the more dedicated gaming subculture) wrote off the Wii but it sold like hotcakes. Savvy gamers questioned the Switch, which seems to be doing okay so far. Of course, savvy gamers were right to question the WiiU but pretty nobody was giving that a favorable reaction. In general, I think it's more a problem with the expectations of certain gaming demos who basically want all console makers to play the same but, I would point out, we already have two companies doing the same thing so that wouldn't really do well for a third company getting into that space. And, on a personal note, I think the high-end graphics race, etc, is a race to the bottom because larger and larger budgets seem to be devoted on more cosmetic aspects which, while nice, might be eating up dev dollars better spent elsewhere and establishes a set of priorities that I don't necessarily feel benefits the industry as a whole. Entity13 posted... lolyou heard me. Wii was fine, because it had games. Wii U didn't have enough games, nor enough good press. Switch has a limited worth that hinges on the games we haven't seen yet. But hey! let's enjoy the gimmicks these systems have to offer while we wait for our time and money's worth. Calling the Switch a "gimmick" is a massive stretch. After all, its primary "gimmick" is the fact that it has a portable option and a stationary option which is hardly gimmicky at all (it's like calling the ps2's ability to play DVDs a "gimmick" rather than a "feature"). Instead, it's something I've wanted to see for decades. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:880500147] in Spider-Gee... [t:75167540]...</cite> <quote><cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Even if anybody in this topic never bought another Nintendo console (which we know won't be the case)</quote> I'm in this topic, so you're already wrong. I haven't owned a Nintendo console since 1996-97 or so, and have zero interest in owning another any time soon.</quote> I meant to say "Even if everybody." From context, I would have assumed that the typo would be self-evident =x <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>And based on their current business model, I'll be long dead before they come up with a tech concept or a game library enticing enough to make me start looking at them favorably again. That's actually part of why I usually zone out when people are talking about Nintendo, or just offer a cursory "don't care" sort of response rather than going into any real detail - I'm fully aware that Nintendo left me behind decades ago and has no intention of ever winning me back. So me rattling off a list of all the in-depth reasons why I don't care about [insert new Nintendo product here] would be like me listing all the reasons why I don't like a particular brand of tampons</quote> Is it just Nintendo you avoid? Are you still gaming on the other consoles? And are you just skipping handhelds? <cite>Entity13 posted...</cite> <quote>Not to me personally, but when I see patterns emerge I have to point them out or challenge them, because sometimes those patterns lead to bad outcomes. I see a potential bad outcome with how Nintendo has been doing things lately. In proving me wrong, they're proving that pattern wrong and are making a potentially better outcome for themselves.</quote> idk, savvy gamers (almost went to say smarks, since it has a similar connotation to the more dedicated gaming subculture) wrote off the Wii but it sold like hotcakes. Savvy gamers questioned the Switch, which seems to be doing okay so far. Of course, savvy gamers were right to question the WiiU but pretty nobody was giving that a favorable reaction. In general, I think it's more a problem with the expectations of certain gaming demos who basically want all console makers to play the same but, I would point out, we already have two companies doing the same thing so that wouldn't really do well for a third company getting into that space. And, on a personal note, I think the high-end graphics race, etc, is a race to the bottom because larger and larger budgets seem to be devoted on more cosmetic aspects which, while nice, might be eating up dev dollars better spent elsewhere and establishes a set of priorities that I don't necessarily feel benefits the industry as a whole. <cite>Entity13 posted...</cite> <quote>lolyou heard me. Wii was fine, because it had games. Wii U didn't have enough games, nor enough good press. Switch has a limited worth that hinges on the games we haven't seen yet. But hey! let's enjoy the gimmicks these systems have to offer while we wait for our time and money's worth.</quote> Calling the Switch a "gimmick" is a massive stretch. After all, its primary "gimmick" is the fact that it has a portable option and a stationary option which is hardly gimmicky at all (it's like calling the ps2's ability to play DVDs a "gimmick" rather than a "feature"). Instead, it's something I've wanted to see for decades. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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