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Topic	What's a good first gun?
Kyuubi4269 05/30/17 3:50:53 PM #50:	ultra magnus13 posted... Read the fbis report on ballistics and wounding effects of handgun ammunition. But the tldr is. Handgun ammunition only wounds via crushing, cutting, or tearing what it directly impacts. To incapacitate effectivly you need to hit the head,cns/spine lungs and heart are good but arnt as sure of incapacitating as effectivly. You want a minimum of 12in penetration in calibrated ballistic gel and a maximum of 18in, 16 being ideal. Good modern 9mm ammuniton will meet the 16in ideal and reiably expand. The fbi found across the board there agents had faster times and better accuracy with 9mm than 40 or 45. You get a VERY marginal increase in wound channel size at the cost of capacity, speed and accuracy. 9mm being lower recoil is the only factor you've presented that remotely matters. You should also note that the FBI also had records of shots to kill in real life cases and found that 45 needed 1-2 shots on average but 9mm averaged 3-4. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:880090004] in What's a g... [t:75398261]...</cite> <quote><cite>ultra magnus13 posted...</cite> <quote>Read the fbis report on ballistics and wounding effects of handgun ammunition. But the tldr is. Handgun ammunition only wounds via crushing, cutting, or tearing what it directly impacts. To incapacitate effectivly you need to hit the head,cns/spine lungs and heart are good but arnt as sure of incapacitating as effectivly. You want a minimum of 12in penetration in calibrated ballistic gel and a maximum of 18in, 16 being ideal. Good modern 9mm ammuniton will meet the 16in ideal and reiably expand. The fbi found across the board there agents had faster times and better accuracy with 9mm than 40 or 45. You get a VERY marginal increase in wound channel size at the cost of capacity, speed and accuracy.</quote> 9mm being lower recoil is the only factor you've presented that remotely matters. You should also note that the FBI also had records of shots to kill in real life cases and found that 45 needed 1-2 shots on average but 9mm averaged 3-4. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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