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TopicI don't know how even relatively healthy people are ever sated
joe40001
05/19/17 5:44:52 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
joe40001 posted...
I find people who think of "growing up" and "responsibility" in this way are needlessly stuffy and unhappy.


Quite the opposite. You know what feels good? Taking care of the shit you have to take care of and then having fun without worrying about the shit you should have taken care of. Work hard - Party hard.

joe40001 posted...

The way you talk about it, doesn't sound like you are happy about it, but that you are resigned to it. Being resigned to things you are not happy about is "miserable".

Also, the opposite. Every sunday I eat whatever bad food I want to eat and I always regret it. Not because I think it will make me fat or make my cholesterol bad, but because it makes my body literally feel like garbage. Upset stomach, groggy, etc. Eating right gives you energy, can help with depression, and you have less worry about health problems.

joe40001 posted...
I'll be fair: I've been petty and grumpy here, and I do think your heart has been in the right place and looking to help, but I think you and I don't have compatible ways of thinking about this such that you could be much help to me.

Thank you for at least being reasonable. I'll also do the same. The bottom line is that eating healthy is not easy and it requires a lifestyle change. You have to depend on discipline to do it and eventually, you do gain the happiness from it. I will still say that eating right is a responsibility and if you're looking for it to be fun 100% of the time, you're going to be disappointed. It's like working at your job. It has to be done whether it's fun or not.

joe40001 posted...
What you talk about and how you talk about it don't seem happy.

I don't mean to give that impression because that is not the case at all. I think I might be the happiest I've ever been in my life and part of that is due to the fact that I've been doing what I should be doing that benefits me and my wife. EX: eating right, exercising, furthering my career

Those things practically give birth to even greater things that are amazing. Because I furthered my career, I can enjoy nice vacations and my wife doesn't have to work. Because I exercise, my mood and body are healthier and I don't have to worry about that later. etc.


In my experience, the things you say you do that make you happier in the long run, for me have always been an unrewarding slog. By and large I have not been rewarded for taking "positive steps" that people insist will be rewarding. People will say it is because I eventually go back to my old ways, which is true, but why would I do something unrewarding indefinitely if I find it unpleasant? You don't know how frustrating it is to put in 100 work hours into something and have people tell you that it failed because you didn't try hard enough. Wasn't enough, wasn't even close to enough.

That's why I'm doing this 1 week water fast.
1. People say it requires too much willpower and so if I succeed I can finally shut up the idea that I lack willpower
2. A week is a long enough time to have some response to something, people can't say after a week "well you've got to give it more time before you can expect ANY results"
3. I literally cannot go any lower on caloric intake so by god I better fucking burn some weight.

In my mind it won't change shit though. It will be misery for the sake of misery which is what I picture when I read your daily meals.

I still appreciate your patience and what you said and will try to keep it in mind.
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