From: Phase | #130
Biolizard28 posted...
You're putting words in my mouth.
There's nothing AD Kennen can do that AP can't except
- Deal better AD damage. (There are better options than Kennen)
- Deal better damage with W's passive (Once every five attacks)
You pick AD Kennen when you really want to play Kennen but already have a top and a mid. It's functional, but that doesn't mean it's optimal.
I haven't watched IEM (since I doubted anything interesting would happen), but from what I can gather, M5 won because of extremely aggressive counter-jungling.
If that's the case, I can immediately tell you you are looking at the problem in the wrong way. The question you shouldn't be asking is "is AD Kennen better or worse than AP Kennen?", it's "what do I sacrifice by having AD Kennen instead of a conventional AD carry? Is there a way to overcome that disadvantage? What do I gain from having AD Kennen instead of a conventional carry? Is there a way to exploit that advantage?"
If you take that in the context of counter-jungling things like "map control", "strong early and mid game", and "gank-resistance" start popping out.
And of course, the whole 'CC usually unavailable to AD carries, of industrial-grade strength, plus super strong base values for abilities'. That's what Bio isn't getting, too - what you give up for Kennen are Vayne, Graves and Trist's steroids. The issue is, characters like Ashe and Caitlyn function without steroids themselves. So, you don't really give up much.
From: LamdaMax | #131
I've seen comparisons that make Kennen look pretty appealing as an AD carry.
-Kennen W at max rank deals +80% AD every 5 attacks (in magic damage) while Caitlyn's headshot for example deals +50% every 6 at max level.
-Supposedly Kennen's Q serves as an autoattack reset for some reason, which no other AD carry besides Sivir has.
-Better escape than any other carry besides perhaps Tristana
-Better base attack speed than every carry (tied with teemo if you count him). Keep in mind that AS increases are percents of the base, so differences in base AS end up being multiplicative. Also good natural AS per level.
-And, of course, stuns all over the place.
Ashe can reset with W, IIRC, and Corki might be able to reset with R. But yeah, Kennen is very good if you can avoid exploding when doing AD.
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