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TopicHow Andrew yang would support $1000 UBI bill
yutterh
12/02/19 4:21:39 PM
#101
LinkPizza posted...
Thats what some are hoping for. I dont really see this helping much. And if it does, itll probably go to shit (and possibly ruin some lives) after some time. Whether its because it raises prices to the point where the $1000 in useless. I dont really care as long as it doesnt negatively affect my life. As I said, Im not much of a fan of VATs or automaton, so...


Automation is gonna happen whether you like it or not. Which is the point of Yang putting in the VAT and the UBI.

LinkPizza posted...
Whatever. In the end, we still dont know what will happen by enacting VATs. But all anybody sees is extra money without thinking about anything else surrounding that extra money. Like raising prices because people now know you have the extra money. And the place being taxed raising prices in the items because they dont want to lose money. And then people on government assistance who it would help not getting the money because theyre already getting money... Butnif you want to shut me out of whatever discussion youre having, go ahead...


But they won't lose money because they re selling more......sure the prices may go up a bit but I highly doubt everything is gonna go up by $1000 dollars. Every company would have to agree to this process increase and new companies will want to undercut them and get more sales. It would be pretty insane for everyone to increase prices. These are competitive businesses, if someone wants to increase prices another won't and get more sales. People on government assistance will get money either way. Government assistance had many problems and you can lose it easily or outright refused. Those on government assistance usually have families and there are at least 2 adults. Which brings in $2000 the household. Likely the government assistance will be giving less money then the UBI or its restricting on what you can buy or do.

No matter which way you look at it, UBI is necessary and the VAT is necessary to support it. Companies will also understand that the VAT is much cheaper then being forced to raise minimum wage and pay for employee healthcare. So yang's plan of adding in single payer health coverage helps ease that burden. Which also helps businesses from raising prices. Yang's overall plan will help the economy immensely on both the business side and consumer side.

The country inflation and housing is already skyrocketing. Their is really no way to help without the government directly taking everything over and that isn't a good idea.

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TopicHow Andrew yang would support $1000 UBI bill
yutterh
12/02/19 12:00:10 PM
#83
LinkPizza posted...
Yeah. There might be some that dont. But its still worrying, as the good landlords usually already have remnants...

Doesnt that depend on how much you would have made a week in unemployment fees. You might be better off taking that instead of UBI. At least for a while. You could make more than $1000 a month in unemployment. The only problem is it only last for a certain length of time.

While $1000 a month is better than zero a month, it doesnt seem like it would matter if its still not enough to live per month...


Yall are also forgetting one very important step. UBI is given to all adults. So if you have friends, family, girlfriend, wife, kids over 18, etc it can help immensely.

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TopicHow Andrew yang would support $1000 UBI bill
yutterh
12/01/19 11:20:55 PM
#63
LinkPizza posted...
This is probably what worries me the most. We get an extra $1000 that means that price of many things will go up. Not to mention, landlords will start raising the prices of rent, probably... I could definitely see my shitty landlord making me pay and extra couple hundred bucks for this shitty house. Maybe even an extrs thousand. Either way, she'll try to steal my extra money, if I got it... Except I need that extra money to pay for all the stuff that will go up in price...

Doesn't that depend on where you live? Though, even in a cheap area like I'm in, I don't think that's enough...


From my understanding it is illegal to drastically increase rent. If anything I am sure yang, states, cities, counties etc will control the rent price hikes. Not everything is gonna magically surge in inflation. Why increase your prices when you can sell more products at a slight 10% increase do to VAT? Personally it doens't make sense to increase the price of everything so high that people will be right back where they started. Also the VAT tax is mainly put into place so companies like amazon, goodle, and facebook will be forced to pay their taxes. Not to mention data sharing and autommated trucks will be charged as well. It will not be gloom and doom and is a much better option then bernie's forced minimum wage increase.

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TopicHow Andrew yang would support $1000 UBI bill
yutterh
12/01/19 11:16:28 PM
#62
Zeus posted...
The interview just underscores that Andrew Yang is a joke. His entire plan is based on theories where he fundamentally misunderstands effects, such as believing that UBI is the cure for incarceration despite the fact that many crimes have little to do with peoples' ability to afford something, ignores that UBI will create inflation that drives up costs on all Americans, etc. And he just tosses out completely speculative math for much of it. He's like Jill Stein, but worse. Not to mention that he doesn't understand that VATs create costs that get passed along to consumers.

Assuming it's non-taxable and depending on your circumstances (particularly if "free" universal healthcare is passed and that burden is shifted onto your taxes), you kinda can. Granted, even if it was taxable, that alone could fall into a non-taxable bracket.


It isn't a cure and he doesn't say it is. But it will help keep petty crimes down. He also plans to decriminalize drug use, so you won't go to jail just for using the drug. Drug dealers will still go to jail. Sure it isn't a cure all but it will immensely help people that are in tough situations who commit crimes out of necessity. I also don't believe the UBI will raise inflation that much, Sure it will probably increase costs some what in reply to the vat tax but not enough to out do the UBI. Heck many probably won't increase prices since they will be selling a lot more items. Since demand will most likely increase, economics 101.

It is also a infinitely better option then forcing the minimum wage to increase which will have a much more devastating effect on the economy and jobs. This is definitely also a better option then trickle down economy model. This will help smaller communities and towns immensely, it will be much safer to open up a new business or be a entrepreneur. The thing with Yang's UBI is the pro's drastically out way the cons. Sure some adjustments will need to be made but it will be very helpful to a lot of people. Heck it isn't even really for us who are doing decent or well, it is to help those who are struggling, losing jobs to; automation, minimum wage increases, medical issues, forced medical coverage, dying business's etc.

Also yang will have single payer medicare for all and keep private healthcare. It is most likely not taxable and sure you can live off that if you live with your parents and have them pay all your bills. Where in the united states can you afford rent, utilities, food, luxury goods, etc all on $1000 a month?

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TopicHow Andrew yang would support $1000 UBI bill
yutterh
12/01/19 10:49:54 PM
#58
LinkPizza posted...
Sure... But that's not what we were talking about... The main point of the conversation was about people not being able to work, or make enough to live, so I don't know how you comment fits into that discussion... No offense or anything...


I don't know why i butted in either......

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TopicHow Andrew yang would support $1000 UBI bill
yutterh
12/01/19 9:39:03 PM
#56
LinkPizza posted...
If youre talking about the $1000 a month, thats not even close to enough for some people...


no but if you don't need it, save it. I am sure you would have a lot more then anything social security can provide if you saved it over a lifetime.

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TopicHow Andrew yang would support $1000 UBI bill
yutterh
11/22/19 4:46:42 PM
#42
KnoxKorner posted...
If you need any evidence that he is a fifth column Chinese agent look at his stance on decriminalizing opioids. Then understand the concept of the Century of Humiliation.


His point is to help people that get addicted to these drugs. If your a dealer you will still go to prison. This way if someone gets addicted to a drug they can safely get help without having to worry about getting locked up.

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TopicHow Andrew yang would support $1000 UBI bill
yutterh
11/22/19 1:06:10 AM
#22
LinkPizza posted...
There's another problem, though. It's if they can do the jobs that are left for them to work. Some people only know how to do one thing. It would suck if there was nothing they could do, even if they wanted to...


Sometimes a normal job isn't what people want. Someone could start a youtube channel, someone can back to school, someone can fuck their life way, but I bet on humanity wanting to work and provide work in their own way or their own field. It does what it is called "freedom divedent" gives people the option to choose how they want to contribute to society.

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TopicPick a number between 1 and 1718
yutterh
11/21/19 11:59:04 PM
#32
1066

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TopicHow Andrew yang would support $1000 UBI bill
yutterh
11/21/19 11:57:26 PM
#19
RoboXgp89 posted...
that's not going to happen
again there are people out there worth 1 million times a citizen and they are going to keep it that way and so will the people in the gov't

there are no free hand outs in a country like this, as big as this, the people here do not feel any trust with one another
ubi could work in a small european country or something, not here

UBI would inflate everything until we all get the same product, then we'd have communism, people not doing their jobs because they receive more UBI then everyone else, so on ...


UBI is a opt in thing. If someone is already receiving aid through disability or something they cant get ubi. Also ubi only $1000, you cant live off of that but if your working it adds a little bit more cushion and it helps business since they dont have to increase wages and more people will but their product. I dont really see inflation spiking, maybe a extra bump but not a hell of a lot. Besides Alaska already does ubi, it is very successful there apparently.

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TopicWhat does this have to do with The Last Jedi?
yutterh
11/21/19 3:32:40 PM
#2
Everything

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TopicThe new pokemon games are pretty good
yutterh
11/21/19 3:32:15 PM
#6
Destiny posted...
i caught a Gengar last night

not traded and evolved my haunter, no

i encountered a wild fucking Gengar and caught it.


Dats dope dude

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TopicFine, how about a poll of some not very good (mostly) FPS games for PS3?
yutterh
11/21/19 3:31:24 PM
#5
I recommend AvP just on the singleplayer alone. The multiplayer would have been awesome but the wait times and then then resetting everyone's levels killed it off. Was actually a very good game.

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TopicI wonder if the super best friends will ever reunite
yutterh
11/21/19 3:29:52 PM
#3
Aculo posted...
rise from your grave


Power up!

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TopicHow Andrew yang would support $1000 UBI bill
yutterh
11/21/19 1:57:20 PM
#1
So pretty much UBI will be 3 trillion, but according to yang it actually won't cost anything. This video has him explain how it pays for itself.

https://youtu.be/VfIXZMvinTw

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TopicHow do you feel?
yutterh
11/20/19 11:46:16 PM
#2
https://youtu.be/Kmv3WlKa6U8

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TopicDo you hate your country more than you did 10 years ago?
yutterh
11/20/19 11:35:31 PM
#26
papercup posted...
I don't hate my country, I'm just disappointed in its choice of leadership.



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TopicWhat's with the whole angry lady angry cat meme
yutterh
11/20/19 11:32:48 PM
#2
I'm in the same boat arv.

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TopicWhataburger DENIES a DRAG QUEEN dressed as a VIDEO GAME CHARACTER!!!
yutterh
11/20/19 11:32:15 PM
#2
Or they denied her because she was in full costume and most places dont like people going in full costume cause if something happens they are unidentifiable....but of course it's because they are a drag queen unless their is evidence that they let other fully costumed people in I think it's fair.

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TopicI am now an Ancient.
yutterh
11/18/19 1:00:19 AM
#5
Ding!

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TopicWhich Sonic do you prefer?
yutterh
11/17/19 4:56:02 PM
#16
I see we have shad base followers here XD
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TopicJedi: Fallen Order - do you think it's politically correct to use The Force?
yutterh
11/17/19 4:54:00 PM
#15
faramir77 posted...
ParanoidObsessive posted...
Obviously, this is why Palpatine had to take those space perverts down a peg. It's why I'm voting Sith in 2020.


Make the Galaxy Dark Again


*you are now tracking this topic*
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TopicDisney+ accounts hacked.
yutterh
11/17/19 4:52:59 PM
#16
ParanoidObsessive posted...
aDirtyShisno posted...
And this is why you dont use the password password for everything...

It's why I use 12345. It's utterly foolproof!


Ha, they are gonna be looking for guys like you. My password is 54321.
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TopicThere are no bad pitbulls
yutterh
11/17/19 1:22:00 AM
#45
adjl posted...
Aaantlion posted...
adjl posted...
Yellow posted...
So if humans had better owners, there would be no bad people.


Pretty much, though we tend to call them "parents" when we're talking about humans. Some people are neurologically predisposed to being bad and can be a much greater challenge to parent than a normal child, but there are very few people so completely terrible that they couldn't have turned out alright with a better upbringing (which may have included therapy).


Seems like pretty absurd copout regarding personal accountability.


Perhaps, but you're going to have to define "person" in order to suggest something like that.


Not defending bad parents but sometimes it really is the child.
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TopicDo you generally prefer wired or wireless headphones or earbuds?
yutterh
11/16/19 12:35:27 PM
#15
I prefer wireless, wired headsets just get in the way. But I prefer my keyboard and mouse to be wired.
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TopicStreaming games is a shitty idea that will never happen
yutterh
11/16/19 11:07:56 AM
#11
CaptainStrong posted...
yutterh posted...
I take it you never played sega channel. Amazing concept and it got me into a few games I would have never tried.

And some of the games on it are lost. Same thing with the Satellaview. That's what's gonna happen to these Stadia exclusive games if Google shuts it down unless the developer rereleases them elsewhere or a Google employee leaks the game files.


Really? Which games were lost?
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TopicStreaming games is a shitty idea that will never happen
yutterh
11/16/19 7:44:33 AM
#8
I take it you never played sega channel. Amazing concept and it got me into a few games I would have never tried.
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TopicIs your favourite pokemon in S&M? Or did it get cut?
yutterh
11/12/19 7:29:24 AM
#18
Cut 11
Luxray
Garchomp
Alakazam
Poliwrath
Scizor
Salamanca
Metagross
Agron
Slowking
Dragonite
Golem

Made it 8
Charizard
Butter free
Machamp
Gengar
Steelix
Rhyperior
Gyarados
Tyranitar

So a little over half of my favorites were cut. But that's more then enough. My favorite ever charizard is in so I'm all good.
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TopicBrainwashed Americans defending Colombus are like the Chinese defending Mao
yutterh
11/11/19 11:06:14 PM
#116
Veedrock- posted...
The Popo posted...
StripedTiger posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEw8c6TmzGg
I think this video is worth watching. I went into this video ready to hate it, but it broadened my perspective a bit.

I clicked on it, saw 28 minutes, and thought Fuck that. And then the 28 minutes flew by. Good video.

Happened to me too. I just went in to see the full name of the video and then it kept me invested. It certainly exposes the brainwashed crowd itt, too bad they'll ignore it.


Yeah. Now I wonder how all of this shit got so crazy. Columbus really didn't do anything crazy or evil. Seems it was other people this whole time and they gave him the credit lol
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TopicSo apparently someone being transabled is a thing...
yutterh
11/11/19 6:45:42 AM
#56
rexcrk posted...
TC needs to learn how to properly use there, their, and theyre.


For real, that dude is a num skull XD
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TopicBrainwashed Americans defending Colombus are like the Chinese defending Mao
yutterh
11/10/19 11:52:37 PM
#106
Xfma100 posted...
Sarcasthma posted...
HornedLion posted...
I mean, theres tons of other people in history that deserve this type of hate before getting to Columbus.

List them off so we can start working on cancelling or renaming their national holidays.


Apparently Genghis Khan's birthday is a holiday in Mongolia.


Honestly, genghis Khan is pretty awesome. His story is badads. Sure he pillaged and stuff but the mangoliand respected others religion, science, and had strict society rules. He is far from.the monster people think he was. Hell the nation's he conquered would have done worse if they were attacking everyone.
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TopicHave you read the bible?
yutterh
11/10/19 8:57:42 PM
#97
brestugo posted...
Went to Christian junior high and high schools, so yeah. Maybe 2-3 times. Interesting in many places. Overall I liked the OT better than the NT even though God is pretty much a jerk throughout the OT.


Is it weird that I read NT and OT as new trilogy and old trilogy XD I think I've been on the movie and star wars boards too much lmao
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TopicSo apparently someone being transabled is a thing...
yutterh
11/10/19 8:56:28 PM
#47
SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
yutterh posted...
A penis is just a reversed vagina and from my understanding all males start as females until the body grows the proper organ.

Most people don't recall anything from before the age of 3. Their organs are going to settle into whatever configuration they'll stick to well before that.

yutterh posted...
People are also born as hermaphrodites, two penises, two vaginas, extra toes, fingers, heart outside rib cage etc.

And that would be what they are accustomed to. They never experienced any different. It's only by comparison to other people that they know their condition isn't the norm. Unless there's some disadvantage to that condition (the heart one is concerning) it really shouldn't hinder how they live their lives.


Yeah I can see your point.
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TopicSo apparently someone being transabled is a thing...
yutterh
11/10/19 7:08:41 PM
#44
SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
yutterh posted...
I can understand someone being transgendered

I don't, and I think you explain pretty well why I don't understand it.

yutterh posted...
their is no way your bodies mapping is gonna say "yeah we shouldn't have made that arm". How is this even a thing

I see this as the same as saying "oops, grew the wrong genitals". You can't be in the wrong body. You can't be accustomed to not having a feature your body has always had. You have never experienced not having it. So what basis do they have for comparison to say that something shouldn't be there?

I see the two conditions as being the same, but I don't think it legitimized transablism. I think the comparison demonstrates why transgenderism should not be legitimized.


Well transgenderism is a little different. Especially considering the organs are basically the same. A penis is just a reversed vagina and from my understanding all males start as females until the body grows the proper organ. People are also born as hermaphrodites, two penises, two vaginas, extra toes, fingers, heart outside rib cage etc.

But I do agree that not everyone has this, sometimes it can be a mental disorder as well. It's just really impossible to tell if it was a genetic screw up or a mental issue.
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TopicSo apparently someone being transabled is a thing...
yutterh
11/10/19 6:40:48 PM
#41
bulbinking posted...
zebatov posted...
Old news. At this point people can be anything else they want.

Careful, TC, once science says this is an actual thing thats grounds for mod or worse.


Actually psychologists aren't scientists but people act like they are.


In a way. Definitely not all of them but the once who actually do the research of the human mind and find therapies and ways to deal with mental disorder, I could consider them that. The human psyche is a mystery unto itself and not something science can actually predict.
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TopicSo apparently someone being transabled is a thing...
yutterh
11/10/19 6:25:55 PM
#38
adjl posted...
The_tall_midget posted...
It's a mental disorder, stop pandering to people with issues.


How are we defining "pandering" here? Because in the context of gender dysphoria, "pandering" gets used rather often to mean "acknowledging and respecting the pursuit of the most effective treatment plan for the disorder," which is not a usage that is at all supported by the premise of "it's a mental disorder." If you're going to use the term, you should ensure you have a contextually-appropriate definition for it instead of just clinging to your favourite emotionally-evocative buzzword.

I'll happily agree that people shouldn't be encouraged to chops bits of themselves off without consulting appropriate medical professionals, but that doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't be respectful of their desires to. If you ridicule them into committing suicide by calling them stupid, you haven't exactly prevented self-harm. There are far better ways to deal with mental disorders than that.

Dreaming_King posted...
Shadowbird_RH posted...
Attempting to oppose/oppress people for their harmless weirdness... IS harmful.

So by your logic should we accept pedophiles and their thought processes with open arms as long as they aren't literally diddling kids?


Yes, actually. Non-practicing pedophiles are harmless. Why, then, should they be objected to? Certainly don't hire one to teach daycare or drive a school bus, obviously, but there's no need to demonize pedophiles who haven't actually done anything. That just discourages them from admitting to their desires and seeking help overcoming them, increasing the chance that they act on them and actually commit some sort of harm.


Not pandering to them is different then demonizing them. They aren't stupid but they do have some kind of mental issues either from their neurological make up or some kind of mental disorder. The treatment shouldn't be to just go with it. Like I have chronic depression and suicidal thoughts. The treatment shouldnt be let me kill my self. These people need to come to terms with their disorder and accept that they are in the wrong. There are no ifs, ands, or buts about it. The first step in recovery or control is to accept it.
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TopicWe're all in this together, when we reach we can fly, know inside
yutterh
11/10/19 2:10:07 PM
#2
I believe in us.
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TopicHave you read the bible?
yutterh
11/10/19 2:09:20 PM
#94
Trialia posted...
yutterh posted...
Wow. I wonder why I'm blocked lol

Apparently you're not, because I can see this post but I still can't see your previous one. That's weird. And I still see nothing between my #88 & #91.


Maybe cause someone I quoted is on your blocked or ignore list. Ill just repost what I said.

post 89 Unbridled9

The Bible doesn't say that. In fact the Bible says the opposite. It says that the world is round (Isaiah 40:22 IIRC). The reality is that ancient people knew the world was round but, outside of a select minor few groups, it was useless knowledge. I mean, they could see eclipses of the moon, ships going over horizons, and conducted actual experiments to prove it. But to a farmer intent on getting the crops in before their lords taxes them such knowledge is pointless. IIRC the 'flat earth' thing was more of an insult than reality. I.E. 'You're people are so dumb they believe the world is flat'. Even for Columbus the issue wasn't a belief of the world being round or not (they knew it was) but, rather, Columbus was basically advocating what was believed to be a suicide journey to cross what was believed to be empty ocean. He believed that the world was both pear-shaped and much smaller than it actually was which lead him to think the journey could be done while science, at the time, said he would starve. Had America not been there science would have been right and Columbus would be remembered only as probably the first to attempt such a foolish crossing.


Post 90 my post

Interesting fact, the world is actually slightly oval.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earth-is-not-round/

Best article I could find but I heard of it through a youtube video. At work so not searching for it right now. Will post the video later.

Side note
for anyone wondering how the bible came to be and why some "books" aren't included in the bible

https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/topical-studies/who-decided-what-went-into-the-bible.html

Side note 2
Also here is some science that we get from the bible

http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/science.shtml

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yutterh
11/10/19 1:09:48 PM
#22
Shadowbird_RH posted...
People like you are a problem.

That problem is the inability to discern the difference between weird and harmful.

As I said, sometimes weird shit happens.

Weird shit that isn't harmful isn't a problem. If it does becomes harmful, then something should be done,
but if it doesn't become harmful, then they should be accepted for who they are.

Attempting to oppose/oppress people for their harmless weirdness... IS harmful.

In which case, that means YOU = HARMFUL = PROBLEM.


But it is harmful to their bodies. There is being weird and doing weird shit which is fine. But then their is this. I'm not saying they should feel bad about wanting to cut their leg off or only want two fingers, but I refuse to help or pander to them.

Dreaming_King posted...
yutterh posted...
That's like saying if someone thinks their trans duck, you let them go live in a lake with ducks. This isn't a political issue on someone being transgender, which has it's own issues but I can accept that. But believing you shouldn't have eyes, hearing, a limb, fingers, etc is just bullocks. I can never support this or accept that people should just mutilate themselves because we dont know what's wrong with them.

You realize you're saying the exact same thing that people said about transgender people prior to it becoming popular to support them right? Not even saying you're in the wrong or anything, just pointing that out.

If in twenty years people are coming out as "transracial" or "transage" or whatever else and it's seen as normal and people who thought it was ridiculous back in the dark ages of 2019 are seen as bigots it won't surprise me a bit.


Yea I understand that. I was against transgender but I'm accepting of it now. I dont agree with it but I can understand it. But a line has to be drawn somewhere. Multiple genders, translate, transracial etc is just going to far.
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TopicSo apparently someone being transabled is a thing...
yutterh
11/10/19 6:40:11 AM
#8
Mead posted...
This has always been a thing sadly. I remember there was an episode of nip/tuck about it over a decade ago.


The only thing I really remember about something similar was some guy on like dr.phil or something who cut off his legs because he figured he didn't need them. That was years ago I think though.
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TopicDid yall know transabled is a thing?
yutterh
11/10/19 5:18:01 AM
#10
vigorm0rtis posted...
yutterh posted...
My thing lies with then trying to pass it off as neural mapping. Their is no way your brian would decide "yeah that arm shouldn't have grown" and even if it was, mutilating a healthy person is nuts. Transgender has it's own issues. But I can understand it. This is just what?


Yeah, your brain can do that. It's not even particularly uncommon, particularly amongst patients with neurological disorders that are notably not mental illnesses. But please, don't let that bust up your narrative.


Sorry for being overly dramatic, it's just mindblowing to me. Okay, so its possible but the solution shouldn't be let me become disabled. Their has to be other solutions, therapy, coping mechanisms something. Just seems immoral and wrong to let them do it or help them.
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TopicDid yall know transabled is a thing?
yutterh
11/10/19 5:08:10 AM
#6
vigorm0rtis posted...
If you'd bother to read up a bit on it, you might not be so confused.


My thing lies with then trying to pass it off as neural mapping. Their is no way your brian would decide "yeah that arm shouldn't have grown" and even if it was, mutilating a healthy person is nuts. Transgender has it's own issues. But I can understand it. This is just what?
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TopicDid yall know transabled is a thing?
yutterh
11/10/19 5:03:09 AM
#1
I also posted this on PotD.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/becoming-disabled-by-choice-not-chance-transabled-people-feel-like-impostors-in-their-fully-working-bodies

Some of his study participants do draw parallels to the experience many transgender people express of not feeling like theyre in the right body. Baldwin says this disorder is starting to be thought of as a neurological problem with the bodys mapping, rather than a mental illness.


I can understand someone being transgendered but their is no way your bodies mapping is gonna say "yeah we shouldn't have made that arm". How is this even a thing or being looked at as anything other then mental illness. WTAF.
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TopicSo apparently someone being transabled is a thing...
yutterh
11/10/19 5:01:31 AM
#4
NightMareBunny posted...
because it's become a complicated issue and one that can't really be addressed without making one side or the other extremely angry

so at some point you just give up and say "it is what it is" because we can't do anything about it without making the situation worse


That's like saying if someone thinks their trans duck, you let them go live in a lake with ducks. This isn't a political issue on someone being transgender, which has it's own issues but I can accept that. But believing you shouldn't have eyes, hearing, a limb, fingers, etc is just bullocks. I can never support this or accept that people should just mutilate themselves because we dont know what's wrong with them.
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TopicSo apparently someone being transabled is a thing...
yutterh
11/10/19 4:34:42 AM
#1
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/becoming-disabled-by-choice-not-chance-transabled-people-feel-like-impostors-in-their-fully-working-bodies

Some of his study participants do draw parallels to the experience many transgender people express of not feeling like theyre in the right body. Baldwin says this disorder is starting to be thought of as a neurological problem with the bodys mapping, rather than a mental illness.


I can understand someone being transgendered but their is no way your bodies mapping is gonna say "yeah we shouldn't have made that arm". How is this even a thing or being looked at as anything other then mental illness. WTAF.
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TopicHave you read the bible?
yutterh
11/09/19 2:29:10 PM
#92
Wow. I wonder why I'm blocked lol
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TopicHave you read the bible?
yutterh
11/09/19 12:30:07 PM
#90
Unbridled9 posted...
yutterh posted...
CaptainStrong posted...
OniRonin posted...
TyVulpine posted...
People used to think the Roman gods existed. Theyve been disproven.
People used to think the Egyptian gods existed. Theyve been disproven.
People used to think the Greek gods existed. Theyve been disproven.
Why does the god of the Bible get a free pass?


People used to think the sun revolved around the earth. They've been disproven.
People used to think gravity followed newtonian laws. They've been disproven.
People used to think insects emerged spontaneously from rotting meat. They've been disproven.
People used to believe in the luminferous aether. They've been disproven.
Why does modern day science (e.g., evolution) get a free pass?

Evolution actually has been proven.

Also the Bible says the sun revolves around Earth and that Earth is flat.


Where in the bible does it say this?


The Bible doesn't say that. In fact the Bible says the opposite. It says that the world is round (Isaiah 40:22 IIRC). The reality is that ancient people knew the world was round but, outside of a select minor few groups, it was useless knowledge. I mean, they could see eclipses of the moon, ships going over horizons, and conducted actual experiments to prove it. But to a farmer intent on getting the crops in before their lords taxes them such knowledge is pointless. IIRC the 'flat earth' thing was more of an insult than reality. I.E. 'You're people are so dumb they believe the world is flat'. Even for Columbus the issue wasn't a belief of the world being round or not (they knew it was) but, rather, Columbus was basically advocating what was believed to be a suicide journey to cross what was believed to be empty ocean. He believed that the world was both pear-shaped and much smaller than it actually was which lead him to think the journey could be done while science, at the time, said he would starve. Had America not been there science would have been right and Columbus would be remembered only as probably the first to attempt such a foolish crossing.


Interesting fact, the world is actually slightly oval.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earth-is-not-round/

Best article I could find but I heard of it through a youtube video. At work so not searching for it right now. Will post the video later.

Side note
for anyone wondering how the bible came to be and why some "books" aren't included in the bible

https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/topical-studies/who-decided-what-went-into-the-bible.html

Side note 2
Also here is some science that we get from the bible

http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/science.shtml
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TopicHow much of your life do you spend in your bed?
yutterh
11/09/19 6:59:52 AM
#20
I sleep a lot lol sometimes I sleep days if I am able to.
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TopicHave you read the bible?
yutterh
11/09/19 6:54:22 AM
#87
CaptainStrong posted...
OniRonin posted...
TyVulpine posted...
People used to think the Roman gods existed. Theyve been disproven.
People used to think the Egyptian gods existed. Theyve been disproven.
People used to think the Greek gods existed. Theyve been disproven.
Why does the god of the Bible get a free pass?


People used to think the sun revolved around the earth. They've been disproven.
People used to think gravity followed newtonian laws. They've been disproven.
People used to think insects emerged spontaneously from rotting meat. They've been disproven.
People used to believe in the luminferous aether. They've been disproven.
Why does modern day science (e.g., evolution) get a free pass?

Evolution actually has been proven.

Also the Bible says the sun revolves around Earth and that Earth is flat.


Where in the bible does it say this?
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TopicCan you tell the difference between a javelin?
yutterh
10/26/19 1:47:53 PM
#9
JOExHIGASHI posted...
You showed the same picture 3 times


I see all three pictures on my side. Weird.
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