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Lost_All_Senses posted...

I never liked ditsy hot characters. It's always so obvious it's offensive that it's assumed I have caveman brain.

*looks at the topic you're in*

gee i wonder why

SoreChasm posted...

Twossolini?

boobsolini

onlyfans subscriptions

Antifar posted...

Rescheduled for tomorrow night

she was getting smashed

you cool with that?

respecting women

shoulda kept going, oh well

Edit: Assuming the other guy was the one starting shit

paerarru posted...

I don't know if I would say "people's thoughts are based on societal structures". They do have an influence on it, for sure, but the way people think comes out of a lot more factors than the status of society.

Not to mention that if it does depend on society, then we're stuck. There's no way to change a society without changing thought.

I didn't say it's going to happen magically. And sure, while we're at it, why not change society as much as we can for the better. Hence, representation. But just that won't make any meaningful, lasting change, because you're locked in a power struggle, and power swings. So one decade things are going fine, and the next one you get Donald Trump. Why, because you didn't really change anything, no matter how comfortable it is to tell yourself that you did, and what twisted logic you use to tell yourself that.

sure there is a way to change society without changing thought. what do you think the Civil Rights movement was about? you think peoples' thoughts changes instantly before/after Jim Crow laws were outlawed? No, society changed because of that, and peoples' thoughts change over generations as people get used to being integrated and realizing people aren't the monsters they were made out to be. People of all kinds being represented, being seen as been normal/ok/as good as everyone else matters. It's the same reason why (more) people are cool with gay marriage. You may the change, people realize it's not as bad as they thought it was, and people change their views and move on. Same with will happen with socialized medicine in the US, one day, too. This is why we see intergenerational progress. Thoughts and society adjust/oscillate/progress over time, and laws/actions/movements are what help disrupt the status quo to move things along (very slowly, sadly). This is one of the things people are trying to do to normalize non-white, non-cis, non-male in some cases, people from being in main roles and more diverse roles than they have been for decades. And I am all for that. We just need for it to be normal, then we can "stop talking about it". This is, sadly, a necessary step, since we aren't at a point yet when it can just happen without needing to be commented on. This is similar to, say, interracial marriage, which is commonplace now, but was a big(ger) deal in the past. Now, we can see it (in some places) and not even bat an eyelash. Even in this case, we still it still catches peoples' attentions, sometimes in a negative way, but its certainly moving in (what I consider) a more positive direction. Why? Because things changed, and peoples' views adjusted accordingly.

And I do not dispute whatsoever that it swings back and forth. All of human history shows that there is constant back and forth in society. And that is normal. However, if you look at US history, you'll see it continually moves to the left if you look at long enough time scales. Conservatives continue to fight a losing war, even with (many, perhaps too many, in my opinion) victories along the way.

paerarru posted...

Shrug. That is an idea, it remains to be seen how well it would work.

We could also try changing the way we think. People love to try to change society, but they don't realize that we are the ones that made society. As long as all you do is deconstruct society into power struggles you're never really going to change anything. If you change the way people think on the other hand you will inevitably change society. It's just that that's a lot harder to do, or even conceive, and people are lazy. Or worse.

I'd argue that peoples' thoughts are based on the societal structures. Changes in system thought patterns require a change in the environment.

You can't just magically have people thinking different. You have to change the environment in some way to make people think differently. It's not just a switch you can change through wishing things were different.

paerarru posted...

Yes, I 100% agree with this. Which is why I have no problem with the color of The Little Mermaid's skin, but also what bothers me about those reactions. And yes it is a touching reaction, and of course I understand the reasons behind it, and they're very good reasons, but the fact is that those reasons have led to a certain kind of thinking and certain positions that ultimately do more harm than help. And you can call those whatever fancy words you want, but what they really are is quite simply racism, alive and doing very well, thank you.

You're right, systemic racism is a thing that exists. And we should dismantle power structures that enable it and lead to these reactions that you don't like.

HHH_is_the_game posted...

devils advocate, but honestly shouldn't we be discouraging people from thinking it matters what skin color people is in a movie? Like is it REALLY a good thing that people feel they can only identify with a character if they look the same as them? And then encourage that type of thinking as a great and positive thing? Black people shouldn't feel they can only identify with black people or white people with white people. i feel like we really need to make race less important

people don't "only" identify with people who look like them, but you'll notice it when you never/rarely see anyone like you

...so they can drop a nuke?

interesting.

I immediately read it as the racist version, and then thought about it, realized the mexican part, and now think its definitely possible he meant it the other way.

Evening_Dragon posted...

Father had control beyond what I thought possible. I hope therapy will be enough help for the girl.

no fucking clue how that man is still alive. that said, killing him probably would have made it worse (for the daughter to see, as well)

the craziest part to me is that it was ongoing for 2 years.

=/

ITT: people who will lie / are in denial

ugh

Robot2600 posted...

everyone.

noooooooooooo

Robot2600 posted...

everyone fucks in the wedding dress u guys.

everyone.

that's a lie. My wife didn't have sex in her wedding dress

...did she?

._.

why are you doing the same thing?

NapoleonToo posted...

If I can end racism that easily I'd do it. Dying feeling like I hadn't accomplished anything? That sure wouldn't be a concern anymore. I'd have objectively helped make the world a better place.

not sure you can say its objective, as there are people who would disagree with you (obviously)

"the defendent has been found guilty for the murder of the sheriff, but not the shooting death of the deputy"

he wanted to talk to/flirt with/ask out/creep on one or both of the two girls

had nothing to do with you

BlingBling22947 posted...

read this earlier

no down payment
no closing costs loans

only to black & Latino

only in SELECT* neighbourhoods

Myself and some partners had a conference call about this this morning.

Not lawyers but seems super illegal-seems sus.

like
Well cut this crazy deal to minorities ONLY if they live in certain places

its not only black/latino though

TaylorHeinicke posted...

TC's complaint is valid. It has nothing to do with saying non binary people have to be male or female or whatever. It's strictly about physical features. People are basically ripping TC for having preferences towards certain physical features.

then just look for women if that's what you want. it's not that hard. pick a broader set and you'll get more options. seems pretty simple to me.

GoT
L&O SVU

are good ones

good luck to you and your family

MICHALECOLE posted...

Elaborate

ever heard about the difference between the median and the mean?

its possible for something to be worse for the class average but better for most students

MrAndersonWb posted...

Straight from the Washington post :

if Obama had done this there would have been torches and pitchforks

*nooses

Crimson_Corsair posted...

Covid was contained?

have you heard of any extraterrestrial cases?

Oatcakes posted...

Moot means a point worthy of discussion, no idea why Americans use it to mean the opposite.

"having little or no practical relevance, typically because the subject is too uncertain to allow a decision.
"the whole matter is becoming increasingly moot""

there's two definitions, and that's the one commonly used in America.

other one is:

subject to debate, dispute, or uncertainty.

which I have never heard used

Choco posted...

really

do you really not understand why some people would feel that way

getting paid in money and getting paid in rent money are essentially the same thing. it's illegal in that you can't do it, but ethically isn't not really any different provided consent and prior agreement to the arrangement

idk why some people are okay with sex work, but not this, assuming both parties agreed to this beforehand (BEFORE writing up the contract)

Also there is a 17 year difference between the pics.

idk how people don't understand shit like this

MachineJaipur posted...

bottomless?

yessir

he's right

half nude at night alone with my then gf

Guide posted...

Is there context to that, though? It's an unfortunately reasonable opinion to hold for most prior decades.

that a women could never be elected president? how is that reasonable in any way, regardless of decade

Letron_James posted...

Am I missing something that makes her uggo?

standards

"these people deserve death, life in prison is too good for them" - some guy

"omg they cheated justice!" - also some guy

stupid antifa planting those nuclear documents =/

you're a little late

"What happened to the 30 million pages of documents taken from the White House to Chicago by Barack Hussein Obama? He refused to give them back!" Trump wrote in a Thursday post on Truth Social. "What is going on? This act was strongly at odds with NARA. Will they be breaking into Obama's 'mansion' in Martha's Vineyard?"

i feel like theres more to the story...

...there has to be, right...?

Rikishi posted...

It's always tragic when someone is murdered by another person. But this type of murder is more sad too I think, a person being killed over money. Especially such a small amount. I've seen stories of people getting killed for like 1 or 2 dollars. That's absurd honestly

so if it was $150, it would be less sad?

trump literally addressed this

Gaawa_chan posted...

It's not entirely fair to blame voters in general when the nation is so heavily gerrymandered and does not operate off of the popular vote.

who is voting in the people who do this?

Guns_of_Verdun posted...

eeerr

oops, meant to say straight, same point though