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But yeah I don't think there's any difference that aren't visual, they ported a bunch of old NES/Arcade stuff in the early GB years.

...it's not on there right?

I beat Dr. Mario on Game Boy. Same thoughts as first time. Same ranking, except colors are nice so one place below.

Ctes Game Ranking

Super Mario World
Super Mario Bros. 3
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Super Mario Bros.
Breath of Fire
Pokemon Trading Card Game
Tetris
The Legend of Zelda
Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels
Baloon Fight
Metroid
Super Mario Bros. 2
Adventures of Lolo
Gradius
Ristar
Sin and Punishment
Kirby's Dream Land
Ninja JaJaMaru-kun
Super Dodge Ball
Dr. Mario (NES)
Dr. Mario (GB)
Magical Drop II
Donkey Kong Jr.
Mario Bros
Donkey Kong
Ice Hockey
Ice Climber
Wrecking Crew
Devil World
Xevious
Clu Clu Land
Soccer
Pro Wrestling
Donkey Kong 3
Tennis
Excitebike
Tecmo Bowl
Pinball
City Connection
Baseball
Doomsday Warrior

The innocent scan for one thing

PunishedBen posted...

Maybe not immediately day 1, but definitely quick enough to bring my demise. I'm thinking of Pokemon Star Wars and Paper Mario mafia. In Tekken he did think i was scum, but he was scum that game. And i was baiting him

I feel like Pokemon Star Wars was Chris driving a torpedo through you and others following lol. Paper Mario maybe, but we didn't get you for a couple of days then.

Oh we really didn't need confirmation about that but sure.

The times I recall Ben being scum Kirby weren't particularly on to him. He did think with huge confidence Ben was scum when I hosted, but he wasn't.

This Kirby totally can read scum Ben day 1 is just blatantly false.

Oh lol it's the two people I suspect the most teaming up together against me

Kirby321 posted...

See, I'm still not understanding why Ben is scum. Because he lied about his role? Bro lied about his role in Toy Story Mafia and almost got Lea killed. Ben is a force of chaos, but a hella more effective and logical one than the likes of Ulti or Lopen.

I feel like there has to be stronger reasons to believe he's scum besides the way he's played his role.

Well partially because there are like no options that make great sense. He also doesn't have any clear from game mechanics which a lot of people does.

Oh and I have guessed MI/Kirby/Kirby/Blade/Ulti

UltimaterializerX posted...

ctes, do me a favor and full claim again plz? You have nothing to lose here.

(typo)

Starburns, Town Bookie. I bet on the night kill.

I can bet reputation. Win and gain a prosty scan lose and scan guilty and be seen committing all kills that night.

Bet vote. Win and double vote next day, lose and have no vote next day.

Bet life. Win and get gambler shot (gambler shot meaning you die if you shoot town) lose and die.

Bet gambler shot if I have it. Win and I get told a member of scum. Lose and scum gets the shot without the gambler restriction.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Ctes is confirmed to not vote multiple days, Blade keeps saying scum has a vote stripper, and Blades vote is on Ctes?

Im remembering all this correctly, right?

I think the idea he had was that you were the vote stripper.

I would move my vote around but you know.

The Blade special sounded spicy and fun but hard to follow through with. Ben is still a good lynch and MI is still good too because honestly everyone have had enough good town reasons that MI just being really good scum might make the most sense tbh.

I honestly don't even feel like MI is gonna flip scum, based on today he really just seems town.

There is just... no one left in the poe otherwise but it's really all it comes down to, so we just like have to like try to figure out what the hell we are missing if that is not the obvious lynch.

PunishedBen posted...

Can scum even afford to no kill is there is a risk that Kirby blocks a scum member? Like yeah, he blocked Death so it didnt matter, but it could just as easily make one of their own look bad with the no kill yesterday

A scum team with MI on does not, that's for sure. Otherwise, yeah probably.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

And sure, you can count Ctes if he's town? But if that role is real then imo it only counts for like 5% of a vigi because that's how often I think it would even come to pass. So instead we have a regular vig with a 3 day delay (or 5 days when you screw up twice) and maybe 5% of a vigi in ctes?

Where was thus argument doing the "can they coexist" part lol.

Kirby321 posted...

Gonna be honest. If there's one person I'd choose to lynch right now completely disregarding roles, it would be Blade.

I don't know if anyone agrees with me, nor do I know if anyone else would be willing to share the shame if Blade indeed flips Doctor... but Blade just feels like the correct answer. Especially given how disorienting this game has been and how inexplicable the scum night actions have been (that we know of at least).

100% yes, if it didn't require a no kill to be made last night that would be wheee I pushed fully and Blade is clever enough to make that move. That anticipated Death town flip really made it seem like he was just waiting for an excuse to go after Ulti and I but to this moment he still hasn't been able to explain that connection (it isn't there but you get the point). I have also been after him before.

ctesjbuvf posted...

With your confidence MI, why are you actually on me ahead of Ulti? Because his claimed vote is better?

As far as I have understood your theory about me being scum depends on Ulti being scum.

That should say role and not vote

With your confidence MI, why are you actually on me ahead of Ulti? Because his claimed vote is better?

As far as I have understood your theory about me being scum depends on Ulti being scum.

Just vote Ben because he is probably scum

And man, just to throw a kind of petty argument out there and let out some frustration

I would never ever return to throw my vote away on purpose like some of you have suggested. Like if that was act and we already worked out of it, no way back, it sucks so much not having the vote.

TotallyNotMI posted...

I kind of can't imagine thinking me/ctes are on a team together rn

Eh, most interactions can easily be forgotten after a day if they don't fit some obscure but fun idea.

Ah, I get you now.

Flygon/Squirtle
Fennekin/Froslass
Sprigatito/Omastar
Pichu/Marshtomp

TotallyNotMI posted...

However when I said 'good job MZero' it was implied that he had a guilty scan so I was giving him the benefit of the doubt being real there, and in that instance I believed MZero did taunt. Then when it became a 'guilty scan that wasn't a guilty scan' well, my mind went other places.

I just meant at what point you started thinking he was shot directly, because you seemed pretty confident in that today.

I think the bolded part holds. You are basically always told if your action was successful or not.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Yeah, I'm probably bad at grasping him because I have burned my hands on going hard after town Ulti before for similar reasons to this game.

I really liked the case I built day 3 but the redirection just... doesn't make sense.

I can think of one reason that doesn't involve working around cop. That would be if scum wanting to figure out something about my vote loss. I think it would be weird to use what seems like a limited ability on it but it's the only other thing I can think of. And red would be a very random target imo.

UltimaterializerX posted...

He knew I was roleblocked before I said it, then publicly said he feared me claiming I was roleblocked via targeting him. Town does not behave that way.

I got curious and checked the start of that day. I don't really see anything that hints towards him knowing, which also only makes sense of he is scum with Kirby. He does mention you attempted to target him before you do which is weird but... how would he know?

He did however initially say "good job MZero" first post, so I want to ask, at what point did you chance your opinion about him likely being shot directly, MI?

Judge me from my play not my role, jeez.

Kirby321 posted...

Fine. But if he guesses wrong again tonight, then I don't see a reason to protect him any further.

...why did you protect me earlier today? I don't get you man.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Wouldn't this mean you consider Ben, Blade, Chang, IGCD, Kirby and MI to all be equally likely of being taunted by Mzero?

I think the most likely would be MI personally, but we can't know for sure if MZero's death was even taunt related.

I meant the reasonings I gave were quite likely!

And yeah, I agree.

TotallyNotMI posted...

One of the fears I have with Ulti is the post he put just after this one. He's so focused on 3P I feel like he's scum telling us that there does exist a 3P.

Yeah, I'm probably bad at grasping him because I have burned my hands on going hard after town Ulti before for similar reasons to this game.

I really liked the case I built day 3 but the redirection just... doesn't make sense.

Everything else is circumstantial yeah but I still think they are all quite likely.

TotallyNotMI posted...

I think MZero was shot directly so scum Ulti has an excuse for being alive longer!

I see the point but red getting the heart intended for me I can only make sense of if Ulti is town.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Red: MZero said he was town as one of the last things. This means he didn't taunt me due to redirect.
Ctes: Red was town vanilla so he didn't taunt me which would have hit red.
Death: Wasn't taunted because confirmed vanilla.
Ben: MZero was very sure he was town the day before as well.
Blade: Confirmed protection by last night and MZero died.
FD: Red received the heart.
Kirby: Jailkept Ulti, although I see the priority argument, so you can remove him from here if you want.
Ulti: Jailkept thus couldn't commit the kill.

I still think this is worth pursuing, also if you lynch me. I can't see MZero being shot directly at that point of the game. You have IGCD, Chang, MI left. Let us work from there. If you disagree with any of the reasons, walk me through it.

PunishedBen posted...

Yeah, this is why I prefer MI now. I can't imagine all of the scum claimed semi confirmable power. Give Ctes another chance to win the double vote.

Somehow in the process of killing every other vanilla, most people town cleared MI, I am not entirely sure why.

In some weird set of events, MI somehow has the most sensible vote on me currently. I think the theory is wack but at least there is something there.

I'm not sure what to make of that.

I am kinda curious to seeing DTC reactions to town following up on a night of no deaths by then getting rid of two innocent scans all while blaming cop for not scanning well enough. It's pretty ironic.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

We have to assume there are 3 scum, so the issue is that even if you are town you can't afford to bet your vote again unless we lynch scum today. I still think Ben is our best chance of that happening.

Yeah that's true and I agree with it. I would have thrown my vote there it I could.

Come at my fully then, Kirby. What's your theory? You can't reasonably put me at -1 for that alone.

I haven't even been one to suggest I could confirm myself if I got the double vote. Ben was. You agreed to yourself Kirby. Just right now.

Then vote me for agreeing to that while adding that scum would want to mislynch me before the thing you yourself said was confirmable potentially happened.

Town is doomed anyways if people only read every other post and make a bunch of statements and conclusions based on it. Blade has done this most of the game. Kirby is doing it. Those can't both be scum basically, most likely neither. Then I wasted my time by ever digging into anything.

Kirby321 posted...

I feel like Ctes has been talking more about how he's town and that it's beneficial to keep him around than actually trying to solve the game.

Like this an absolute BS argument to make. I have spent a lot more time than most people and commented on basically everything brought up but almost no one cares to engage with any of of, and just when I thought you left your annoying wrong statements with you yesterday too you come and say this.

Somehow MI is easily the most justified vote on me now, what a world.

Put me out of misery someone, I would rather be in DTC. This was a lot more fun before you all spent way too much time talking about my role mechanics while blaming me for doing the same thing all while ignoring most of my attempt to engage.

Kirby321 posted...

If you're town, you're nothing more than a mislynch condition for scum to win.

Like this is exactly what I said myself, but also that there is a chance they could lose it, which you yourself agreed to.

Kirby321 posted...

Okay, now I'm just laughing. If you're town, you're nothing more than a mislynch condition for scum to win.

I feel like Ctes has been talking more about how he's town and that it's beneficial to keep him around than actually trying to solve the game.

I know you're gonna get offended when I say your logic is flawed and poor, but quite frankly, I think you are the only player here who thinks your role is better than it actually is. Your role sucks and that's the truth. Your role is not better than Cop, Doctor, or Jailer. Your role is of little consequence to town.

You literally just admitted yourself that the double vote would confirm me then I said the same thing and you vote me for it?

I have never claimed to be better than any of those roles, I have only said I have a niche.

Kirby321 posted...

That is a point I can agree with. If you get a double vote, you're practically confirmed town. Until that happens, though, you're nowhere near a priority kill compared to every other claimed town role in the game.

I am not getting night killed by scum no, but getting me lynched while they can would certainly be ideal for them.

MI or Ben are still the lynches I think makes the most sense.

ctesjbuvf posted...

I'm not dying on the hill any more than you are buddy.

Like I think I have tried to say we can agree to disagree like 5 times, but then one of you instead comes in with a mockery of the play like you don't even understand what I'm saying and I struggle to ignore that.

Also there are roles to trick cop in this game. It really doesn't sound like mine has that.

I'm not dying on the hill any more than you are buddy.

Even the lesser rewards are good to get rid off. If I came in today with a double vote, most trash theories against me would fall apart. Scum would not want me confirming myself.