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Muffinz0rz is WARNED

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JoanOfArcade posted...

Jesus this topic is ten months old

It's on a slow, pathetic crawl to 500.
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Tails 64 posted...

A new challenger approaches:
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/440/919/bca.gif

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Nuffinz0rz posted...

Muffinz0rz is WARNED

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Muffinz0rz posted...

Who posted #397?

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Who posted #396.... oh, wait, those are your posts, aren't they?


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FFT-Fan posted...

I like this Gif a lot & will use it sometimes. My favorite one for Gamefaq is Micheal Jordan saying "Stop it. Get some Help". Both are amazingly fitting for a lot of the posts on here.

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zebatov posted...

How has this been going for seven months?

tbh, it's kinda sad that it has.
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Muffinz0rz posted...

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This topic is still a thing?


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T0ffee posted...

Damn! Just found out that the singers for One Punch Man's OP were all between 49 to 56 years old!

YoukaiSlayer posted...

Yeah scrapped princess is one of the better fantasy anime out there. Doesn't do anything super revolutionary but executes on the fantasy concept pretty well and looks good doing it (especially at the time).

Is fantasy anime that large of a subgenre?

dioxxys posted...

hello everyone

It's looking a little bit dead in here so let's spice things up and encourage some discussion that everyone can take part in.

Why doesn't everyone attempt to put together a top 10 list, so that we can see what everyone thinks are the best anime.

If you find it hard to choose just 10 then try doing a top 20. You don't have to order them individually, for example I make my tiers in groups of 10.

I will post my list tonight when I get off from work after 6.

I find naming bests too difficult =x Plus the topic will 500 soon-ish
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T0ffee posted...

Metalsonic66 posted...

T0ffee posted...

I would love to see a video of the seiyuu in the recording booth just rocking her heart out lol. She sounds like she's having a blast.

IIRC that actress is an actual singer, so it's kind of extra funny knowing that she could have sung it "well", but decided to be "in-character" and get all ridiculous with it.

I've always heard that it's easy to learn to sing well.

It's singing badly on purpose that takes real talent.

idk, bad singing is so often parodied that it's probably pretty easy to pick it up. And if you play up a bad tendency, it's not like you're a less convincing bad singer.
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Re-finished the main part of the Sasuke Retrieval arc last night (I think I've only watched maybe an episode or two a night at most over the past few weeks)

Ranking the fights:
Tayuya > Ukon & Sakon > Kimimaro p3 > Jirobu > Kidomaru > Kimimaro p1 & 2

Ranking the characters themselves:
Ukon & Sakon > Tayuya > Kidomaru > Jirobu > Kimimaro (lame design, lame backstory, kinda neat powers and curse form)

Also the arc starts really great but then just starts to fall apart when Kimimaro is introduced. We wind up with tons of flashbacks and backstory -- including some information which messes up the earlier timeline -- on a character who doesn't really matter because he's introduced too late into the arc and barely plays a role. '

That just leaves the last fight of the arc. Was trying to find information about the next major arc -- because the the last thing I really remember was some guy with an umbrella burying people alive and some other throwaway stories -- but it looks like it's just a lot of filler arcs after this.
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I want to like Fate Grand Order, but just can't get into this between the long-ass cutscenes and long load-times.
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I keep seeing the LA Death Note listed in my recommendations. I kinda want to avoid it on principle, but I'm somewhat curious if it's any even passably good (or, conversely, humorously bad). Anybody bothered to watch it?
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Are the two Little Witch Academia short films worth watching if you've already seen the series? Started the first one but wasn't feeling it after the first 5-10 minutes, which included a version of the Shiny Chariot stunts show (something that I recall the series later doing better)
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Metalsonic66 posted...

DBS manga spoilers Roshi has Ultra Instinct

lolwut? Is he actually strong with it? Aren't all of the other users some of the strongest fighters around?
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I don't get these fucking Naruto flashbacks. It talks about Choji and Shikamaru meeting for the first time but it makes no sense because presumably that wasn't the first game that either of them had played and, more importantly, how the fuck would they *not* have met before then when all of their dads were good friends and former teammates? Hell, a *lot* of the kids should have met at some point.

And given that Choji and Shikamaru's dads were both prominent ninja, you'd kinda think that the other kids (some of whom were probably the ninja world version of muggles) would treat them with more respect.

Also, presumably because I've seen the show, I can kinda only watch so many episodes at a time. And, in general, I really like the Sound Four. However, when I first watched the show, I didn't realize that they had all been killed during their fights. Probably because they're shown looking unconscious. And, in general, for a show about ninja and ninja battles, it doesn't seem like that many characters ever seem to die.
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

Neji is one of my favorite characters so his fights are never dull for me.

I like the character, just not his one-on-one fights.

AllstarSniper32 posted...

Also, I don't think you need to worry about Naruto spoilers.

We're on a site where you can still get modded for absurdly well-known Star Wars twists >_> Plus there are possibly some people who haven't seen it.
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

Sasuke retrieval? Is that when he decides to go to Orochimaru? I think it is since you didn't say Shippuuden.

It's called Sasuke Retrieval or Sasuke Recovery, but yeah, it's when the Sound Four recruit him and a team led by Shikamaru is sound to bring him back.

AllstarSniper32 posted...

My favorite fight is Neji vs Kidomaru.

Kidomaru is cool, but I find most Neji fights a little dull.
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Oh, I'm back to watching Naruto. Started the Sasuke Retrieval arc, which is better than I remembered. Of the early arcs, I had only really remembered the Chunin Exams and the later parts of the recruiting Tsunade mission as being any good (well, that and Shikamaru v Tayuya but pretty much all of Shikamaru's fights are good anyway)
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dragon504 posted...

Zeus posted...

dragon504 posted...

I'm up to s5 of Parks and Rec, but episodic stuff is hard to watch eps back to back to back.

How so?

There's no story to hook you in, as most episodes can be watched standalone, whereas something with a good story will have you wanting to keep going to further the plot and see new developments.

P&R *has* a running story, though, even if the episodes are also self-contained. Each season is usually built around a few major plot points and many of the episodes advance that central plot. Plus you have things like the romance subplots. I've routinely binged more episodic stuff, whether it's episodic anime (like Saiki K), cartoons, live-action, etc.

Granted, you very rarely seem to have 100% self-contained episodic content any more. Nowadays everything seems to be episodic with either a running story (usually with a new conflict each season) or some form of continuity.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

I still have a deck SOMEWHERE in my house (Scorpion Clan), but I probably couldn't even find it if you held a gun to my head and gave me an hour to find it or get shot.

Eh, still sounds like you're a lot more organized than me. I'm not sure I could find certain things if you gave me a week.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Technically, they don't sell CCGs at all - they refer to their stuff as "Living Card Games" - it's sort of a halfway between CCGs (wherein you buy starter decks and blind booster packs) and "Dedicated Deck Games" (where you buy/use a specific deck with pre-established cards).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasy_Flight_Games#Living_Card_Games

Kind of a flaky system. I guess it has its benefits, if you're guaranteed to get everything you might need.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

But ultimately, CCGs that intend to encourage players to buy booster packs tend to have less robust rules (necessarily to prevent synergy conflicts) and don't necessarily have as fun an experience in and of themselves versus a game which is specifically built to be played with very specific cards.

Doesn't that also conflict with LCGs since they also have expansions and continuous releases? After all, the only time when rules can be build with the cards in mind is when the rules and cards are being designed at the same time.

Otherwise the customization factor is one reason why I find CCGs enjoyable as opposed to just normal card games. Decks are designed for usability, but they're also a player's creative self-expression.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

When you know exactly what cards every player is going to use, it's easier to set up specific combos, synergies, or established ideas than in a game where you come out with a new set of 200+ cards every few months.

That's why strategies, combos, and synergy are set up on a block-by-block basis in MtG, tbh, and why standard (or whatever the format is called) is restricted to the current core set and last two blocks. The kinda cool thing about MtG is that it would introduce a new mechanic in a set or block and then kinda retire it afterward (at least for a while). The influx of mechanics where the popular is kept and unpopular goes makes CCGs more of an evolving kind of game.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

(This may also be why I wind up taking like 2 hours at the beginning of any RPG video game with a robust character creator, to work out a perfect character design before I'm content enough to play the actual game.)

I've sometimes spent days deciding on just a character name (particularly in multiplayer games with unique name rules.)

Metalsonic66 posted...

Visuals are a pretty big deal for me when it comes to superhero shows. They don't have to look exactly like the comics (very few movie/TV show superheroes do), but they should at least make an attempt. It's especially annoying with Iron Fist since they really just need to do a modified version of Matt's costume from Daredevil season 1.

Before the show actually hit, I disliked that he didn't even have a mask. However, within the context of the show, it actually made a lot of sense especially within the early episodes.
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dragon504 posted...

I'm up to s5 of Parks and Rec, but episodic stuff is hard to watch eps back to back to back.

How so?
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Metalsonic66 posted...

Zeus posted...

He's wearing a lower face-mask in the modern day scenes. tbh, given the existence of hoodies, a lower face mask kinda makes more sense for concealing your identity.

I don't really care what makes "more sense". He's Iron Fist and he should wear the damn Iron Fist mask.

Jessica and Luke make more sense going costume-free. They both haven't worn costumes in the comics for years.

It's not a matter of what does or doesn't happen in the comics, at this point it's what makes sense in the show's continuity. A billionaire *should* be concealing their faces, whether it's with the traditional mask or something new.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

I always loved L5R, but that was less about the game itself, and more about the community/environment around it. I just thought it was absolutely awesome that the results of tournaments would in turn alter the future plot of the setting (ie, in the original Day of Thunder event, a Lion player won the tournament, so in-game the Lion Champion became Emperor. But if the Crane player had won, the Crane Champion would have assumed the throne). And then events that were shaped by the game and embellished by canon short story fiction posted on the website or released in newsletters, and ultimately integrated into the RPG based on the setting.

I liked the look of L5R and I *think* I picked up a starter deck or something like that (apparently relating to the Unicorn Clan), but I never wound up learning the rules. The idea of a story-based system based on tourney results is really neat.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Fantasy Flight Games is a big presence in CCGs these days - you might want to check out their website to see if you can find something that might catch your fancy. They're the ones who just picked up and rebooted L5R, but they've got a few other games of their own as well.

Looks like they do a little of everything? I see miniatures games, board games, and RPGs there. Not seeing that many CCGs, but I guess they're probably buried in the other products section.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Another big trend in card games these days is trying to release games that are more self-contained as opposed to collectible deck-building (like Magic or Pokemon). Where you just buy a set and play off of that (like Coup or Fluxx), though that's hardly a new idea (because games like Uno have been around forever). Those can actually be much better to play for casual players who don't want to devote tons of time or money to playing, and can often have unique rules or complex interactions that other games don't necessarily use.

Entirely self-contained sets sound a little boring, unless it's a shallower game like Uno. Are most of those built around two themed decks? Do they pool cards together during the game (a la Uno)? Or do the cards get shuffled, split, and separated into two decks? Because that last idea is intriguing if they also incorporate resource management.

At any rate, I *think* most CCGs do starter or theme decks so in theory it's not that hard for a casual to get into the game (especially since they tend to avoid obscure mechanics).

ParanoidObsessive posted...

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Also, my brain keeps tickling around the idea of a game that used to have Tarot-ish cards and an elemental theme, but I can't for the life of me remember what it was called (I keep thinking "Ever-something", but I'm not sure that's right). I remember someone jury-rigged it into an Amber DRPG campaign they ran, but I'm pretty sure there were ways to play it stand-alone.

Just figured it out - it was called Everway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everway

Kind of a neat concept for a RPG. tbh, I always found character creation the most interesting part of any RPG. The rest always started to bore me.
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After talking about CCGs in that other topic, currently trying to look up games with really unusual mechanics. However, there are no good resources for it. Wikipedia has a flat list, most of which don't have entries for the games and many of the ones that do don't provide much invo. There's a wikia I found but, in addition to being hard to navigate, most of the entries are blank.

And there doesn't seem to be a great single community for CCGs as a whole, just for the individual games.

The Wave Master posted...

Iron Fist season 2 trailer dropped.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kvvWB0GwCekp]

I'm convinced that anything would have been better than the crap fest that was season one. This trailer shows a marked improvement over the first season, and the change of showrunner and fight choreographer seems to have fixed a lot of problems.

Scott Buck should never be allowed to run a television show ever again. He ruined Dexter and he almost killed Iron Fist too.

Stop tripping. Season 1 was great. Season 2 also looks pretty neat. Nice to see Iron Fist with *some* kind of a mask in some of those scenes.

Metalsonic66 posted...

Hope he wears the mask in more than just flashbacks.

He's wearing a lower face-mask in the modern day scenes. tbh, given the existence of hoodies, a lower face mask kinda makes more sense for concealing your identity.
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YoukaiSlayer posted...

Yeah but that just means theres an incentive to make an anime, not to keep making the anime. Once it's already gotten the anime popularity boost thats generally as popular as its gonna get whether or not you make more seasons of the anime. Thats why we get so many unfinished anime. Their job has been accomplished and they are no longer needed. Continuing from the point of anime success is where it gets iffy and the mangaka might actually lose money. A read the manga ending is intended to accomplish literally that and it usually works on enough people to be worth it sadly.

Eh, a large number of shows don't make it past their first season (including many that annoyingly end on a cliffhanger) and many others don't get real conclusion due to cancellation. I just kinda expect that anime is likely the same rather than anything intentional at work. It's an interesting strategy, though. (And, in the west, certain tv shows -- Buffy, Angel, Smallville, etc -- have continued as comics.)
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

I don't have numbers, but I bet more people wouldn't read the manga simply because they don't need to since there's an anime of it and they can just watch it anyways. That would happen even more if an anime actually followed a manga faithfully and didn't deviate from the story that the manga tells, which is something anime does far too often.

I find that kinda unlikely, but who knows.

AllstarSniper32 posted...

I'm sure there's more than enough people that watch anime not from sites that the mangaka gets money from.

But do you think that the piracy rate is higher among anime or manga?

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Dunno, but I feel that if the process was fair in that department then anime would be more likely to get the rights to make anime from manga. I mean, for all I know, they give the mangaka like a couple thousand bucks (however much yen that is) then get all the profits from whatever the anime makes.

I kinda wonder how profitable a lot of anime is at all considering the expense and that a lot of the series don't really get that huge. Regardless, though, the mangaka likely picks up royalties on merch so any added exposure opens up that revenue stream as well.

Plus, keep in mind that getting an anime helps a mangaka's overall exposure (potentially attracting readers to their other works) and lends them additional credibility when trying to do other things. Unless the anime is completely awful, it seems like there are countless advantages to having one otherwise mangaka likely wouldn't agree to it in the first place. And, if the anime comes after the manga concludes, the largest sales period has kinda concluded.

And don't you also have the issue of magazines? If a mangaka's work is appearing in a magazine first, wouldn't that do more to discourage people from buying manga volumes than an anime? After all, readers already have the manga in one form. Plus magazines likely pay less than individual volumes. (Although, again, it also helps the mangaka build an audience and increases their exposure.)
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The Wave Master posted...

So, if I lose the last 50 or so pounds I get on the kidney transplant list, and I do not have to go to dialysis any longer. I sort of get my life back, and my chest won't be permanently sore.

Oh, that makes more sense, especially since those lists can take forever.
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Metalsonic66 posted...

That one... I think I could do without seeing.

Given that 17 is already effeminate and both characters sport similar hair-styles, it probably wouldn't be as crazy as you'd think. Honestly, the buff form for some of the female super sayians is probably more of an eyesore.
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Metalsonic66 posted...

Zeus posted...

via fusion... something that DBZ/GT/S avoided altogether

Damn... Now I want to see Gohan and Videl fuse.

It mostly comes to mind because I was watching a scene in DBS where either Beerus or Whis suggested that 17 and 18 fuse.
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Metalsonic66 posted...

*Steven.

Oh. Damn English names with their spelling variations.

Metalsonic66 posted...

And it's probably Stevonnie.

Oh, that does seem to the character which, I guess, kinda is a female Steven then (albeit via fusion... something that DBZ/GT/S avoided altogether). At normal proportions, the character design doesn't look that bad. Certainly better than the usual Steven.

Metalsonic66 posted...

Some of the parkour sequences were more disorienting than cool. Makes me glad I didn't see it in theaters, TBH.

Yeah, that was the biggest letdown. Especially that part where he's climbing the hotel. During a lot of the parkour sequences I couldn't help but think how much better that kind of stuff looked in Mirror's Edge.
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Correction to my previous Pint-Sized Heroes statement, apparently I *did* get a Venom. I must have only partially opened that pack or something and thought it was another Symby Spidey.

Oh, and I'd bought a Stephen Universe one last night because those were also a buck (like I said, I'm weak). I've never watched the show (other than a clip or two which I didn't really like) so I don't recognize the character, which kinda looks like a darker-skinned, female version of Stephen (and, given what I know of the show's creator, I wouldn't be surprised if it was Stephen). Although I had been hoping for one of the gem women, probably not going to bother buying a second pack since I dislike roughly half the selection. That said, I *do* get tempted by really cheap blind-bagged items and apparently it includes a cute-looking pink lion. The set is apparently has a rarity mix, with some 1/12s and a few 1/24s (presumably because it's a 16-figure series).

Somewhat related, a while ago I'd picked up an old-looking VHS tape holder. I've been meaning to remove half of the shelving (got the idea because one shelf was already loose) and then using it to display smaller collectibles, specifically Funko's Pint-Sized Heroes, Pocket Pop! keychains (taking the keychain bit off first), Kid Robot's little Mega Man keychains I talked about in a previous topic (which I picked up on clearance at a Milford Barnes & Noble in February or so), Legos, and then whatever else is on the smaller side. I guess it could fit some of the shorter Mystery Minis or maybe even shorter Skylanders, which I'd probably save for the lower shelves where it's harder to see the figures in the back. It'll clean up a little bit of clutter.

Someday i also want a case that can really display my GBA carts (preferably wall-mounted), which I have stored in multiple places.

The Wave Master posted...

Have we decided on a new topic title yet? Because we are getting closer to the end of this thread.

I think we've all voted.... for our own choices. #GeeklectionEdition #GeeklectionInNovember

The Wave Master posted...

As for losing weight naturally I have tried, probably not as well as I could have, but it is extremely difficult when you are exhausted from hemo dialysis three times a week. Often times after I come ho e from dialysis on Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday, I feel like death warmed over. I have to eat some food, and take a nap to just feel horrible. It might take all night to just feel normal and strong again. Strong enough to even get up and do my walking exercises let alone do rigorous work. It's a vicious cycle that I haven't been able to break going on 5 years now. Thus my weight stays about the same, not really losing or gaining weight.

I know exercising is tough for somebody with a medical condition, but even changes in your diet can yield results over time (whether it's substituting food for healthier choices or reducing overall consumption).

The Wave Master posted...

So I need the help, and the surgery is going to help me lose the weight so I can get on the transplant list.

Transplant list? I'm a bit out of the loop on that part of the story.
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Forgive me, Geeks, for I am week =x Wound up buying *more* Spider-Man Pint-Sized Heroes because the clearance went down to a buck (feel ripped off buying them for $2.19). As expected, I really only got duplicates except for a Spider-Gwen. Kinda wanted Spidey 2099 or at least Venom. However, I pulled *three* Symbiote/Black Suit Spideys (can't remember if I owned one before), another Toxin, and a Lizard. 1/12 rarity my ass...

Never got Venom (so-so), 2099 (wanted), Ultimate Spidey (didn't care), Black Cat (eh), and Green Goblin (kinda wanted -- wanted the GS-exclusive Hobgob more). May or may not have got the Peter Parker, but not caring much there.

Also somewhat regrettably caved and picked up a 4-in World of Nintendo Iggy Koopa figure from Target. Figured having a Koopaling would look neat next to my SH Figuarts Mario (and didn't want to wait to see if they made ones for the other Koopalings). Then tonight I learned that the WoN Bowser was apparently re-released in a gift set so.... probably going to cave and buy that.

Metalsonic66 posted...

It was actually pretty awesome, in a cheesy ridiculous way. The plot certainly wasn't the draw, of course.

I kinda thought the first-person action sequences would look cooler than they did, but it often was kinda meh. I still liked the effects and some of the sillier plot elements (ie, Jimmy)

knivesX2004 posted...

I loved the body switching singing/song near the end. It was completely unnecessary and stupid but it was a fun way to break up the action scenes.

Yeah, I loved the bait&switch thing intro to that dance sequence where it implies masturbatory orgy. The choreography for that scene was really cool.
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

keyblader1985 posted...

then with enough effort a faithful adaptation could be wildly successful.

Yes, but if people have an anime that's as good as the manga, that would make it so less people would read the manga. Thus giving the mangaka less money. But even though I say that, it's just an assumption since I don't know what the pay ratio is for a mangaka when their work gets an anime. But if they got a good portion of it, then there probably would be more better anime.

idk, you have to figure that some people will only learn about the series from the anime and then go back to read the manga. Plus you have people who only watch anime and never read manga anyway. In general, if I'm watching an anime, they *might* get a fraction of a cent in royalties off streaming. However, if I read a manga, it's pretty much guaranteed I'm either using a pirated site or buying used (because I found it cheap) so they aren't getting a cent. (Closest I've come to legit-paying for new manga is Junji Ito's stuff.)

As for what they get from an anime, I would assume they get an upfront sum and then royalties. However, the royalties are probably less than what they get from the manga, unless the publisher gets most of that money.
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A Confederacy of Geeks
The Geeks who say, "Knight"
Geeks R Us (or Geeks R We?)
Kingdom Geeks 3: Never Trust the Release Date
A Geektember to Remember

Also, I watched Hardcore Henry the other night. I'm not sure if it's an ingenious parody of stupid FPS titles or simply a terrible film with a cool gimmick and some neat ideas. When I heard it was like the movie version of a FPS, I was pretty excited... and then a guy with unexplained psychic powers entered the picture. And, of course, the plot bordered on nonsensical (so it kinda did capture the feel of some FPS titles)

The Wave Master posted...

I got my referral for my weight loss surgery. My doctor and nutritionist (Yes, I have one of them too.) both gave me the thumbs up to proceed to the next step.

The plan is to get a gastric sleeve, which entails getting 80% of my stomach removed and closed off. Then I have to take vitamin supplements forever, which isn't too bad for the rewards. The surgerey is outpatient, and will involve 7 small incisions on my stomach. Just more scars to add to the rest on my arms, neck, chest, leg, and foot.

Have you really given up on hope on natural weight loss? idk, I wouldn't be comfortable with that shit, but I guess if you're really heavy or something it could add a few years to your life.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

BMI has always been absolute bullshit for me and my body type, though. When I was close to what BMI says I should be, I looked like I was dying of cancer/AIDS/TB/etc. When I looked my absolute physical best, I was technically 25 lbs "overweight".

BMI is bullshit for everybody because the concept is bullshit.
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Blighboy posted...

Zeus posted...

lolwut? You can't argue, only troll with really shitty bait. You're the one claiming that things are other things which they clearly aren't and cannot be. And pointing out that you're trolling yet again isn't a deflection, it's a fact.

We can add trolling to the list of words comrade Zeus doesn't understand.

We can add self-awareness to the list of concepts comrade Bligh doesn't understand.

HelIWithoutSin posted...

Zeus posted...

Did that at least make sense to you? Because I'm wondering if it made sense to at least one person.

No, it didn't make sense which is why I was asking you to clear up what you meant.

He said you claim to be this, but you're that.
Then your response is, So? You claim to be this, but you're that.

So I asked if your comment meant you agreed with his statement.

I think you're trying to read too much into the statement, which is confusing you. The fact that he's implying I'm not a left-leaning centrist is just more of his garden variety trolling, where he'll say whatever he can to wind people up for "teh lulz"
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Not terrible, but really weird. Granted, not a huge fan of slower-paced music.

(And, in the spirit of really weird, here's "No Good Can Come from Bad")




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The Wave Master posted...

We are on the second to last page, the penultimate page, if you will. Which means it's time to start talking about the next topic title.

You Geeks discuss and talk it, and if there is enough time we can vote and decide together.

Well, that didn't last long at all... I actually had a bunch of neat ideas the other day but I can't remember them now.
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keyblader1985 posted...

So I'm browsing random manga on an app. I'm not even joking here: four out of every five titles I check out have "transported to a parallel world" somewhere in the description. (And they don't even have "isekai" in the title, so it's not like I'm seeking them out.)

This shit's not funny anymore.

But were they transported to a faraway land, to a world where monsters rule?!
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Every child I've known of for years almost always has their own TV. Most of them are fully allowed to use On Demand or Netflix-type services in a family room (so their parents CAN occasionally check in and see what they're watching), and most of them have access to either tablets or phones that allow them to watch whatever online content they want (even if they're limited to YouTube Kids or some other kid-friendly monitoring software).

Suffice to say, the parents you know are *vastly* different than the ones I know.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Arguable. Yes, small scale peer groups will certainly exist (and always have - when I was a kid, I talked my friends into watching Doctor Who, at a time when the average American kid didn't give a shit about Doctor Who), but that doesn't necessarily extend to the population as a whole. What a group of kids in one school clique up and watch as a peer group that can discuss and share content won't necessarily be what kids in another school, another state, or on a different coast are latching on to.

Knowing people who work with young kids, the range of influence certainly seems larger than you suggest. And, I should note, you seem to be talking about late teens.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Yes, there's always been choice.

But there's never been as MUCH choice as is available today. And odds are, there'll be even more in the future.

A lot of that is supplemental, not a replacement. The big stuff is still big while people are also doing other things. Keep in mind that overall media consumption has *also* steadily grown.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/05/when-did-tv-watching-peak/561464/

Tv viewership, for instance, the number of hours of tv that the average household watched DOUBLED between 1950 and 2010. It's not like people are just replacing one thing with another. There's more material, but there's a far higher consumption.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Ehh. Facebook, Reddit, and Twitter are all major communities. Sites like Tumblr serve as lesser communities, and there are people who spend almost all of their online interaction time in places like YouTube comments or Twitch chat. So you're already fracturing the online social network to some degree. People who aren't online (at least in the social sense) or who gravitate to smaller sites (like GameFAQs) only split it even more.

And like I said, even if everyone in the world was on Twitter, it wouldn't mean much, because the nature of Twitter means that people split off into smaller subgroups and communities without any specific connection to the overarching whole. Things like Gangnam Style going massively viral are the exception, not the norm.

You're confusing shared viewpoints and ideologies with shared experiences. When things trend, both people for and against the thing -- to whatever degree -- often see them. I don't even use Twitter yet I still get content recommendations that have allowed me to see things trending.

Otherwise, YT functions as both social and as media. There's a very specific -- but sizable -- niche of dedicated social, but the platform on the whole shares content.

As for exceptions vs norms, it seems like a *lot* of exceptions gain major coverage. Even the Tide Pod challenge -- a strictly social thing -- found its way to Gamefaqs and everywhere else in a big way.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Not really. Because while I agree there are people who didn't see Star Wars even at the height of its popularity, I would still argue that Star Wars had more accumulated eyes on it than pretty much every movie released today that isn't a Marvel film.

The era of "must-see" movies is pretty much dead, and in turn, it's extremely difficult to say "a majority of people have probably seen this film". Whereas 20-30 years ago, it was much easier to reference Star Wars or Die Hard or LotR or whatever and have a very strong likelihood that the person you were talking to had probably seen it.

I would strongly argue that Marvel has become the new Star Wars, although Star Wars is plodding along. Plus you still have widely quoted action movies. Die Hard -- which, iirc, adjusted for inflation had a box office that was *still* less than Taken -- has its counterparts in widely-quoted films like Taken.

Plus the problem with your argument is that it's retrospective and we won't really know the long-lasting impact of some of these things right away. I *do* know that I've run into plenty of people who fucking quote Taken all the time in much the same way that people parodied Die Hard fans.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

I agree. But it does mean that even the most popular media is being consumed to a much lesser degree than previously (which is why TV execs keep panicking because ratings keep dropping), and online even some of the more popular channels tend to be lucky if they draw more than a million views on a video (and that's without discounting multiple views per person).

...again, the ratings issue doesn't necessarily denote viewership because the tv execs are having issues with *live* broadcasts cutting into ad spends whereas viewership has shifted online and, of course, to piracy.

Are we concerned about advertisers or viewers?

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Children HAVE always had limited variety in media consumption compared to adults, but the factor you're overlooking is that children today also have vastly expanded variety in media consumption compared to children 30 years ago.

That and a buck won't buy you a cup of coffee... well, except maybe a senior coffee at McDonald's.

The added options don't really amount to much when parents aren't bothering with them.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

I've pointed this out in the past, but this is one of the major reasons why the entire concept of "Saturday Morning Cartoons" died out - because kids have very little impetus to get up early on a Saturday to watch cartoons when they have dozens of channels offering them content 24-7 365 (and often their own televisions to consume it on, whereas kids 40 years ago were more likely to have to watch on a "family" TV). Once you factor in Internet videos and video games into the mix, the average child today has more content available to them in a month than I had in more than a year as a kid.

Saturday morning cartoons started to die out in 1992 when NBC stopped the practice (or technically earlier), with CBS ending at around the same time. Cartoon Network, the first true cartoon channel, came out later that same year. Nickelodeon, another major competitor, didn't start its original content until 1991. The alternatives were *just* starting when the trend was dying down (although sure, Nickelodeon *did* have some cartoon offerings before that).

Honestly, the fact that weekdays were picking up was probably doing more to kill Saturday mornings than anything else... as well as new FCC guidelines introduced in 1991

https://deadline.com/2016/06/kids-tv-shows-saturday-mornings-fcc-loophole-advertising-1201774658/
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EDIT: Just realized Gamefaqs suggested an old topic. Oh well.

HelIWithoutSin posted...

Zeus posted...

HelIWithoutSin posted...

Zeus posted...

Blighboy posted...

Zeus posted...

tbh, if only Mueller could solve the mysteries surrounding Canadian interference into the US election... or, you know, go after the *only* actual proven collusion so far, that the Hillary campaign bought secrets from the Russian government.

It's odd how a left leaning centrist has so much in common with the fringe extremist right

It's odd how a non-troll does so much trolling.

Does this post mean you agree with him?

How could pointing out that he's trolling yet again be construed as agreeing with him.... oh, you're trolling. Got me again!

Because you're using the exact same method of sarcasm to call out obvious bullshit.

Unless that post was some kind of refutal? Like, you meant that trolls don't really act like trolls which is akin to left leaning centrists don't act like left leaning centrists?

Did that at least make sense to you? Because I'm wondering if it made sense to at least one person.

Blighboy posted...

He can never argue back. He can only deflect. Like when he argues that nazis aren't technically nazis or that imprisoned children aren't technically imprisoned children. He thinks that by changing the subject people forget that hes full of shit but it just makes him look desperate.

lolwut? You can't argue, only troll with really shitty bait. You're the one claiming that things are other things which they clearly aren't and cannot be. And pointing out that you're trolling yet again isn't a deflection, it's a fact.
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keyblader1985 posted...

It gets much better after season one as well. I swear, Mark Brendanawicz is the most forgettable character ever.

s1 was all kinds of bad. It featured some unremarkable characters and had awful characterizations for a few of the others (such as jerkwad Andy). Ron Swanson was still gold, though.
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The Wave Master posted...

I look at at new game like "Dad of Boy" where Kratos uses an axe instead of his traditional Blades of Chaos to fight enemies. The game narrative explains that he uses the axe because his dead wife gifted it to him before her death.

That's the kind of narrative I'm looking for in a game. I need a reason to go forward, I keep a reason to care. Mario games no longer give me a reason to care, and as I have gotten older a reason to care is just as important as gameplay.

Why would that give you any reason to care? It's an absolute trifling. However, the new GoW is a great example of a game where I'll just watch cutscenes and boss fights (usually fast-fowarding through them) instead of actually playing the game.

The Wave Master posted...

Speaking of my wife, before we met she use to be a hardcore WOW player. She use to tell me about how on work days or rather work nights, she had to do raids at 3 in the morning for her guild. Then she told me how it was a nightmare to get everyone there for the raid, then the mess it was to get them to do their task, and even worse, people endlessly complaining about not rolling snd getting gear.

Raiding systems (or more specifically coordination) is why I haven't got into a lot of games.
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Realized I never posted this earlier.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Oh, and here's yet another RP-ish question for y'all.

If you were trying to come up with poetic-sounding descriptions for various races (like "The Stoneborn" for Dwarves or "The Fae-Blooded" for Elves), what would you use for humans?

As previously discussed, humans are sort of middle of the road and bland as fuck compared to other races in fantasy, so it's hard to pin them down with just one title. I was thinking of something revolving around either "resilient" or "adaptable" (or some fancy synonym of same), but I couldn't really think of any good phrasing for it.

The Sodborn? >_>

As for resilience and adaptability, are humans that much better at it than elves? Otherwise, you could incorporate "resourceful" into it. Or maybe "the landshapers" because humans have more of a reputation for changing their surroundings to meet their needs than some of the other races.

Or you could go another route. "Stoneborn" denotes dwarfs' ties to mountains and caves. Elves are associated with forests and natural settings. Men are more fields and grass. Of course, another trait associated with humans is their population tends to grow faster and they expand more, so "Wanderers" or perhaps "Windswept" to evoke an adventurous streak.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Not really. For all that there's a perception that everyone is plugged in and constantly, there's still tons of people who aren't really all that overly engaged in social media as a whole. Or who are spread out across dozens of different social media sites with different cultures and different focuses and different shared experiences.

And in the 50s and 60s, some homes didn't own a tv. You're never going to have complete engagement. But sure, there *are* disparities in usage (and the perception might be a bit larger than the reality) -- but that mostly comes from a generational gap where young people are much larger users because, to some extent, they grew up with it. Ironically enough, it's a shared culture that you likely don't understand because you weren't a part of it.

The "dozens of different social media sites" argument is a little insincere because there are only a handful at any given moment that are truly relevant. Something like the now-defunct Friendster isn't going to have anywhere near the userbase (or influence) of Facebook or Twitter. When CNN is looking at social, they're not checking the "dozens of social media sites" that only its users have heard of, they're going with Facebook and Twitter.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

And even for people who ARE engaged in the exact same social media experience (for example, let's say Twitter), you can spend the entirety of your life never interacting with tons of people, never experiencing whatever content they're consuming or memes they're passing around, or having much of a shared experience with your entire generational cohort. Sure, SOME of your peers are going to have shared experiences, but more likely, you'll have less and less in common with everyone, at least in the sort of ways that build pop culture as a phenomenon (and which fuel in-jokes and references in future media).

Trending features tend to give exposure to those things even if you aren't consuming the same actual content. There's countless entertainment I only learned about via Youtube, etc.

And, thanks to social sharing, people are able to get jokes from shows they never watched. That's something that wasn't possible in the past. Likewise media in general has changed to become more "share-worthy"

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Also keep in mind that the Internet tends to give an illusion of popularity via the artificial "loudness" of voices. Even the most popular of media that constantly gets praised (giving the impression that literally everyone is watching it) rarely pulls ratings beyond a fraction of the greater whole. Game of Thrones? Around 10 million viewers, tops. Breaking Bad? Never drew more than 2 million until its final season, once the hype got so huge that people tuned in more to be part of a "phenomenon" than to actually watch the show. And most other "iconic" shows are way less than that.

...because those are on HBO. You do realize that this directly undercuts your argument about the availability of media diluting a shared pop culture, right? The stuff that's big is -- as it always has been -- things from mainstream media outlets. Things on HBO are on the outskirts of pop culture *but*, I should add, still make up part of the experience. GoT is widely known and referenced in the same way that Tales from the Crypt was a household name despite most homes not really getting it. However, because we're in the internet age, you can't rely on tv viewership numbers unless you're an advertiser (which HBO doesn't have anyway). The vast majority of stuff from networks like HBO is pirated now.

That and initial viewership numbers also don't mean much in an age when people tend to binge shows after the fact.
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