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How should we run this server? Should it be a "do whatever you want as long as you follow the rules" or should there be some element of roleplay (such as using a mod that allows for nations and cities owned by players)? Should we have special projects (such as building public buildings that nobody really owns)? Should we have money and shops to create an economy?

Thoughts?

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Yes, it would be all in Tekkit. You do not need to worry about installing mods yourself (and honestly, I wouldn't recommend it), as there is an installer/launcher that will do everything for you.

This is the launcher I keep talking about so much if you want to play with it:
http://www.technicpack.net/launcher/

For those concerned about security, the launcher is open source so you can check the source code yourself. Nobody anywhere has mentioned any security problems from using the launcher, and as far as I know, nobody has found that it sends your login information anywhere except the official Minecraft server.

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Yeah, if everyone does poorly due to an excessive workload, then you doing poorly wouldn't matter much.

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We'll wait. In the meantime, I have some possible rules for the server that I'm working on, and I am also going to work on configuring server-side mods that should be helpful. Anyway, here are the rules, give me suggestions on them:

General rules:
1. No griefing, no trolling, no flaming. Let's keep it fun.
2. Please use the landowner mod to set your property lines (details on how to do so later). This will protect your property, and is the best form of protection.

Mod-specific rules:
1. BUILDCRAFT: Keep quarries away from places where they could be disruptive. Examples: near people's houses, spawn, mines, etc. Put a layer of something (dirt, sandstone, etc.) and a sign to make it less dangerous afterwards.
2. INDUSTRIALCRAFT: Keep nuclear reactors in safe areas. Use reinforced stone, and keep it monitored or shut off with redstone.
3. Don't steal power, electricity, Blutricity, etc.
4. In general, don't abuse mods to make them destructive or annoying.

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It's been over 3 years. Last time I went, I had health insurance. Now I do not have health insurance, so seeing an eye doctor for a checkup is just expensive.

However, when I was 17, I thought my vision was perfect. Then I was diagnosed with astigmatism and given glasses. It turns out that the glasses ended up making my vision slightly better, although not to the point where I really feel I need them.

It's a good idea to get your eyes checked, even if you think your vision is perfect.

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From: Gwindor | #030
That would mean that we have to downgrade our clients, right?

That sounds non-optimal.

Yes, a downgrade would be necessary. However, the Technic Launcher makes it ridiculously easy. I switched to and from 1.1 and 1.2.5 several times earlier with no issues.

From: SovietOmega | #031
haven't used forestry and i would definitely want the height. i would vote waiting.

It is important to note that while we wouldn't have the height upgrade now, we would in the future. As soon as a converter comes out, I would convert and test the server.

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Due to modders still updating stuff and Diablo III being a distraction to the Technic Team, Tekkit 3 for 1.2.5 is being delayed. The Technic Team never gives ETAs, but they said they will be going slow.

This gives us two options: Wait more for Tekkit 3, or just go with 2.1. 2.1 is on Minecraft 1.1, so by just going with 2.1, we will miss out on the better height limit, chat features, and jungle biomes in addition to other features (those are just the three biggest I see). If we go with 2.1, we will have the Forestry mod, but when we upgrade to 3, we won't have it anymore and I don't know what will happen then.

Thoughts?

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So far, the following people are interested:

Zachnorn
Sceptilesolar
GenesisTwilight
Mewtwo59
SovietOmega
Tom Bombadil (maybe)
firefdr
JeffreyRaze
X_Dante_X (he wants hole)
Robazoid
Ytterbium_70
GameBopAdv
Gwindor
Emporer_Kazbar

14 people, including one "maybe" and one who wants hole. Considering that this will be hosted on a home computer, and Tekkit will likely require far more resources than a regular server (that I capped at 6 or 8 players), I don't think involving PotD is necessary unless people become disinterested. Even then, I hope that people will invite their friends to the server.

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From: Robazoid | #019
What, I'm not good enough? (Stealth bump)

No, you are not good enough! We must have more! MORE! (Stealth bump)

EDIT: The Technic team announced that development will be going even slower due to Diablo III. We'll see when Tekkit 3 comes out. Maybe I should try testing the server soon with Tekkit 2.1. Hmm...

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From: _Regaro_ | #077
Still an absurdly terrible policy that punishes smart people for not being the absolute best.

It's to combat grade inflation, apparently. There's people worried about too many people getting A's in certain schools that mainly accept A students, so some of those former A students should get B's and C's. There, less grade inflation.

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I think the important thing to realize is that different majors require different skills and so difficulty really depends on the person.

I can see someone who is great at math being terrible with history, for example, if they're not very good writers.

EDIT: Fixed typo

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From: _Regaro_ | #071
These classes

These classes are the ****ing worst

**** every professor that does that

You would hate my business school, because all professors there are required to do this because of a policy! This past semester, I had 4 classes like that.

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I can't even believe that something like that needs to be said!

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From: Westbrick | #017
Business is actually pretty tough at top programs.

This. I'm in a top program (USC Marshall School of Business, ranked #9 in the nation), and the material can be very challenging at times. If you want to get above a 3.0, you have to work very hard for it, because there is a mandatory average grade in place for each class. People are competitive and push averages to very high levels, and the professors make their classes harder than they would be at your local community college.

There's definitely a difference between taking business classes at a community college compared to a top 10 business school, and I've done both.

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From: OmarsComin | #004
maybe you could major in business or psychology

The only people that say this are people that have never majored in business at a well-regarded business school.

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Anyone else?

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It's bad if you're against gay marriage, I'd imagine!

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It does, but do not be afraid if you do not see your worlds in vanilla when you select it from the launcher. You still have them in the official launcher. Just a small thing you should be aware of.

The reason behind that is the reason that I like the Technic Launcher - it won't touch whatever Minecraft installation you already have, and keeps everything in its own area.

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didn't they ruin our last server

Nope. It was a Board 8er who thought he was clever by putting something about PotD. I know this because of server logs, and I recognized the name of an alt they had. I also make backups continuously, so nothing was lost. That user was also banned from that server, and others I may run in the future.

do I have to install anything on my client?

Yes, you will need to use the Technic Launcher, which installs everything for you automatically.

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There are only two reasons why I am thinking of including PotD.

1. To get more people into the server, since that was the problem last time, which could be worsened by not using Minecraft vanilla
2. Because of the old rivalry. I would like to see how each Board 8 and PotD interact.

I would like more input on this, though!

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Any others?

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From: SmartMuffin | #006
Sold out huh?

The market has spoken.

At first I thought this was someone making fun of SmartMuffin.

Then I saw it was SmartMuffin.

I don't know what to say to this.

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This would not happen for a while, at least not until they release a new version of Tekkit for 1.2.5 (currently in testing!).

Tekkit is essentially a multiplayer Technic Pack, which is a mod pack that has lots of stuff, especially machines. You can set up factories, have quarries, more advanced rails, and lots of other stuff. For those that know of these mods, it includes Buildcraft, IndustrialCraft 2, RedPower 2, and Railcraft. It includes Equivalent Exchange, but I will turn it off as lots of servers found balance problems with it.

Because it is not vanilla and requires a different (third party) launcher, I figure that not as many people from this board might play. So, I am thinking of inviting PotD to the server. Will Board 8 and PotD work with or against each other? It would be interesting to see what happens. I could also invite RI or CE, but that might be too many people.

The first server we had was a lot of fun, and the more recent one was good too, but I think a lot of people just got bored. That's why I think this might be more interesting.

Thoughts?

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Nebraska.

I can't think of a single thing that has anything to do with Nebraska.

Some people mention Idaho, but at least they have potatoes.

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At this point, you should just reinstall Windows and start over. If you need to get any data before you do, you could use something like Ultimate Boot CD For Windows or an Ubuntu LiveCD (Linux) to be able to see your files and everything. From there, you can move your files to an external hard drive, upload them online, whatever.

There are things you could do that do not involve reinstalling Windows, but it is often much more complicated and time consuming, and it is not guaranteed to fix the problem.

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http://xkcd.com/960/

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Steam says it's not compatible with Vista or Seven. Does that actually mean it won't work full stop, or just isn't supported but really works OK?

It works fine for me on Windows 7. I don't remember if I had to tweak it, though. I know Max Payne said the same thing about compatibility and I had to find an audio patch someone not associated with Rockstar made.

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I paid $2.49 for it two years ago.

Screw you, Rockstar.

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I have never been as old as I am right now.

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I personally don't, and I don't understand it myself, but that's what I heard other people say here. YouTube's not that surprising though, because I have seen video walkthroughs and tutorials for games.

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In related news, people born before me are older than me.

WHAT THE HELL?!

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Everything is overrated - <D
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If young people don't use gamefaqs, what do they use when they need game help?

Wikis, YouTube, Let's Plays, other video streams.

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Also, I always need to post this in these topics:

http://xkcd.com/647/

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And this comic came out in 2009!

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So what? People who were born after the release of Toy Story can now legally drive.

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You know I love ya like a bro, yo, but...

Boy, you sure showed them! >_>

Yeah, well, I actually enjoyed the Virtual Boy a lot more! It worked, which is a lot more than I can say about my PS1! It was a lot cheaper, too!

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There is no valid excuse for not buying Psychonauts for $2, unless you already have Psychonauts.

Excellent game.

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PS1 - dead on arrival, Sony refused to honor the warranty, so I replaced it with a Virtual Boy on clearance and never bought another Sony system again.
Virtual Boy
SNES
Game Boy Color
N64
GameCube
GBA SP
DS
Wii

All new or "like new."

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what

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Mudkip

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Hitmonchan

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Rattata

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I know some states, counties, and cities were considering making laws about it. I don't know which have followed through and actually implemented the law, though.

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From: Iamdead7 | #005
I want my "No, because it's illegal" option

There are many, many M-rated games I'd have no problem selling to a 16 year old, but I wouldn't do it cause its against the law

I think the 4th option, "Probably not, their parents need to be involved" is the option that best fits this. It's legal to sell an M rated game to someone under 17 if they are with their parent/legal guardian.

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I've met plenty of people in their 30s and 40s going to school. You're fine, seriously. At least you're working on your degree now. Doing so at a slightly older age is better than never doing it!

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Anyway nothing to see here, I got a hold of sess over AIM and he informed me he doesn't plan to post in the topic.

Damn it :(

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I have glasses for astigmatism. I never wear them anymore.My vision is not perfect, and I have not done any surgery to fix my vision, but I can't say I wear glasses or contacts. I don't think any of these options fit me.

Am I missing something? How am I supposed to vote in this poll?

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I'm all for helping out those who need it. But as for helping out everyone...just take a look at this topic and you see a lot of people who don't want to work hard and would rather complain about the system. I have no interest in helping out people like that.

I don't think anyone is saying everyone can or should be helped. However, there are certain charities that try to get people into work. I remember one that would give homeless people showers, temporary housing, and donated suits for job interviews so they have an opportunity to work hard, for example.

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