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voldothegr8 posted...

'm pretty sure Goku and Broly were at one point duking it out in a lava pool.

That don't erase the post you just quoted.

BlockAddition posted...

Elon grew up rich but he also turned millions into billions, that's comparable to you turning a few thousand into a few million

So what's your excuse?

He failed and was bailed out.
That is the privilege only a rich person has.
You look at a company he didn't even make or do anything for that he bought that succeeded and attribute it to him and ignore all his many failures that didn't matter because he was still filthy rich after failing and failing instead of poor and homeless.

an amusing consideration for those who try to quantify powerlevels

Magetta lava actually hurt Vegeta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-JcyfhwLuE

Akainu could actually kill Goku or Vegeta.

Of course fans will try to argue this inconsistency away and make excuses for it. Laughable.

Similar Goku needed a suit to go to earth core.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/1/1/AAefUOAAEy1r.jpg

This is super episode 68 near the end.
Some will argue this is filler but that don't work when Magetta spits lava and nearly kills Vegeta.

AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

Ah yeah I just reread it and it was a little more one sided than I remembered.

That was the "Goku must be the strongest!" cope effecting your memory.

AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

Kizaru will probably knock Luffy down a few pegs though now

And? Dude is literally light incarnate but tag spoilers after the current anime episode please.

Smallville posted...

i thought on wiki it said he never got a degree

Elon claims he did though. That is the point. He tries to pretend he worked hard or whatever bullshit when literally his family bought him one.

NoxObscuras posted...

Because "muh taxes" mainly. Conservatives believe that universal healthcare will cause our taxes to skyrocket. And additionally, they believe that lazy, undeserving people will mooch off of the system (which they already complain about with food stamps).

they actually say healthcare is expensive because the lazy people mooch and don't pay and so hospitals have to charge more + Obama ruined it !

voldothegr8 posted...

I like to equate Gear 5th to The Mask. That's what Luffy basically is now, The Mask. And I love it.

Except it would be like if a guy who could already punch mountains to dust put on the Mask.

PraetorXyn posted...

This is one of the biggest non sequiturs Ive ever seen. A characters strength has no bearing in and of itself on how well that character is written.

Goku is one of the most basic characters of all time, and the way hes written is all over the place, with none of it being great.

I think that post actually sums up DBZ fanboyism quite well tbh.

Not only is Luffy ridiculously strong but currently it doesn't matter how strong his opponent is because he can sink them into his cartoon nonsense.
Luffy can literally punch a guy in the head and his fist come out the other side of their head not because Luffy punched them so hard it tore a hole in their head but because he turned them into a cartoon and that was a funny gag that should happen.
He can grab lighting and turn it into a spear not because that makes sense in reality but because it is a thing a cartoon can do.

But that doesn't only apply to other things like Goku's body or the environment but Luffy himself. Even with Goku's strongest punched ever it would just be that Luffy head would stretch out infinitely as Luffy cries in pain before he draws it back to himself like nothing happened.

Also of note is Luffy is basically One Piece version of Jesus now. Literally comes back to life if you kill him.
When he starts healing blind people and making guys with no legs walk we need to watch out.

DarkBuster22904 posted...

Said first company got 300k from a mysterious "angel investor" that kept it afloat.

das alot

ScazarMeltex posted...

Yeah people don't seem to realize that being born rich comes with things other than money. It's also having contacts and access to investors.

Quick google says their Dad literally gave them $28,000 also

so we honestly don't even have to argue connections in this case

Him and his brother literally used their connections they made from their dad to get funds for their first company.

Yes, you just read he didn't even start his first company on his own, not only did his rich brother assist but their Dad's wealthy friends donated.
Their dad also gave them money fyi.

The Buddha

Nemu posted...

He's good at something, but I don't really know how to describe it. He has the ability to draw watchers/readers in despite not being a compelling writer, consistent on lore, or really reliable at all.

I think it is hype building.
For instance "Goku shakes the infinite void!" OH MY SO HYPE WOW AMBLALBHABLHA!

If you turn you brain back on though, not only does it make no sense it breaks the established rules of the narrative itself and cracks apart the whole storyline and the events that come after

I think this is why there is so many Goku vs. X debate that goes on. Cause people buy into the hype but it falls apart under the simplest scrutiny. But fans are so obsessed with the idea that it could make sense and they try so hard to like explain it from physics or math and put so much time and effort when in the end it is an impossible job and the writer himself just contradicts himself later. For example the bullets hurting Goku things. Boy does that really rile up DBZ fans.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Insurance will pay maybe $50, and medicaid will send 200 pages that basically say "we need the right five-digit code before we'll pay $20".
The bills are absurd because nobody actually pays for anything.

The mother in post #1 can likely even negotiate a write-off.

she shouldn't have to do anything

NoxObscuras posted...

Sucks that they had to send her a bill that.

What do you mean by

they had to ???

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they may also try to sue depending on the amount

for $900 they might not but you never know

they expect people be too afraid to fight them in court

My dad had a heart attack and died at my house. The EMTs loaded up their gear and without rush loaded my dad into the ambulance. They then took him to the hospital where the hospital did open heart surgery amassing a $10,000 bill on my dead father. Luckily though one of the doctors thought I earned the right to hear that my dad's heart ripped in half and had he been on the table and ready for surgery he would have died. Anyway. Still cash that $10,000 check. It's not about universal healthcare. It's about predatory medical practices.

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Heartbreaking.
My dad had a heart attack on the golf course in FL. His golf buddies tried CPR until the ambulance came. The ambulance came and brought him to the hospital. They claimed that they got a heartbeat back in the ambulance but once he got to the hospital he flatlined. The bill was ALOT more because he was revived for a minute or whatever. Hard to prove really. In any case, he didnt make it and that 10 minutes from the golf course to the hospital DOA was over 50k I believe. He doesnt live in FL so we had to fly him home for burial on top of that.

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I got in an accident and refused the ambulance because I knew they would do this. The ambulance still came but I refused care again and they eventually left. Then 2 weeks later I get a bill for $600 from them. I call and tell them I had refused treatment when asked and again when the techs came on scene. They said I am still on the hook for the money because they came and therefore could not go on another call. I tell them how that doesnt make any sense and ask them: youre telling me if I dont like someone and want them to pay hundreds of dollars for nothing I can just call an ambulance for them and theyre on the hook for the bill if the ambulance comes? A few seconds of silence go by and then he eventually realizes that he is a fucking idiot.

stories people sharing:

On September 30, 2000, My uncle died in our house days after a surgery of a stroke. The ambulance took more than 40 minutes to arrive, even though we live right up the hill from the garage. He had no family of his own other than us. He wasn't married and didn't have kids.
We got a bill. My mom refused to pay. We were harrassed for a few months until my mom went to a lawyer. He threatened them with a lawsuit. It ended after that.

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Am a Paramedic. One of the worst calls I went too was the most mundane.
We got called for a status check on a woman in a parking lot. 60-65 year old woman was wandering around in a parking lot, around my Moms age. She had gone with a friend to the local state fair. They had driven to a shuttle lot (she didn't drive, her friend had driven her there) then subsequently split up. A few hours later, without a cell phone she took the shuttle back to where her friend had parked so they could go home, to find out her friend had already left.
She had no ride back home, no acute medical problems, allowed us to take her vital signs which all checked out. She was on a fixed income, and just wanted to eat some deep fried snacks at the fair, and have a good time. A bit poor at planning, something my own mother would do.
She didnt really have the money for a cab, so I tried calling the Police to drive her home, I tried calling the bus company of the city to come drive her closer to her house, and even tried to clear with my supervisor and boss to drive her home in our ambulance or have someone come and get her in our sprint vehicle. None of which panned out. We wound up calling her a cab, which would cost her more money.
The part that really affected me was that the company I worked for, billed for medical refusals. She had no medical issues, she wasn't the one that called us. She didn't need our assistance. And at the end of the day, we still sent that poor lady a bill for 50$ she probably couldn't afford. Her poor (but understandable) planning really ruined her day. All she wanted to do was have a good day at the fair, eating some treats, watching some shows, and people watching, and yeah...by now yall figured out she reminded me a lot of my mom, and I contributed in ruining her day. Its been almost 10 years since that call and it still makes me sad. I wish our medical system viewed people more than as a paycheck.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/6/3/AAefUOAAEy07.jpg

From comments:

BLS examination = determination of death aka pronouncement of death. Technically its a patient contact so many systems bill for pronouncements. Medicare actually pays about $65 for this.

Ratchetrockon posted...

not true he has to learn to do new techniques. he can do it within a few seconds tho

I think you are confused.
What often happens is something like when the fast ninja guy fought Saitama.
Saitama goes, "oh is that your move?" then Saitama does it better.

This doesn't mean he has learned or grown. It just means he thought "I would just do thing other guy did to show the difference"

The whole point of the show is nothing challenges him enough to cause growth or learning. It is the reverse of Shounen were every fight makes the character stronger. That is...literally the point.

Ratchetrockon posted...

saitama just gets more powerful as the fight goes on so he'd eventually win

No he doesn't. Saitama never trains or learns. He already can do everything.

woah the also doing a Wild Arms spiritual successor too!
Both these got funded in the same KS !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVoNzn8U8Do

The_Wheelman1 posted...

The video tell us how Goku can be defeated by just ONE SpongeBob. He doesn't stand a chance against 30 billion.

probably cause confident Goku fans wouldn't click video otherwise

"Goku shook a void blah blah blah!"

lol

In 2022, Machida, Kato, and Hirota later co-launched a Kickstarter campaign for a spiritual successor titled Penny Blood, featuring similar mechanics to the Shadow Hearts series.[116] The campaign launched on August 29 as part of a project to fund both Penny Blood and Armed Fantasia, a spiritual successor to the Wild Arms; the two games had a combined minimum goal of $750,000.[52][117]

looks up Penny Blood

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_Blood

Penny Blood is an upcoming role-playing video game set in an alternate version of the 1920s infused with elements of Gothic horror. The lead protagonist is Matthew Farrell, a private detective based in New York; he inherited the power to transform into powerful monster-like beings from his father, and while he hates this ability he uses it in service to the Bureau of Investigation to combat supernatural threats born from Malice. Following an outbreak of monsters at an asylum, he ends up on a mission spanning from the Americas to Europe and Asia pursuing a dangerous criminal. He is joined by the half-mechanical Emilia Dawson of the British Secret Intelligence Service, and Suseri Otsuki of the fictional Japanese Kamuzumi organization.[1][2][3]
Gameplay features Matthew travelling between different locations across the world via an overworld map, exploring dungeons around those locations, and fighting enemies. Battles use a turn-based combat system, with actions triggering a real-time button minigame dubbed Psycho Sigil; hitting areas on the titular Sigil with the right timing fulfils the attack.[1][2] Each character has a limited number of Sanity Points which decrease each turn, with the character gaining a boost in attack when their Sanity is depleted.[4][2]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz6Ky-P3crM

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/3/1/AAefUOAAEy0b.jpg

MedeaLysistrata posted...

No grammar or spelling mistakes so yes

that credit would go to an editor unless he doesn't use one, if not then that is impressive

who wrote it? Stephen King?

Kaiganeer posted...

goku is a very realistically written bad father

lol
but ChiChi not divorcing him and Gohan not hating him, is that well written?

What is your opinion on this?

SpiritSephiroth posted...

Goku shaking an infinite void just by powering up would kind of answer that question >_>

Watch the video

Ratchetrockon posted...

maybe the webcomic but the manga version of saitama seems to just grow in strength exponentially and can copy advance techniques in a few seconds if he tries.

No.

Santana is already beyond the likes of Goku.

The whole point of the comic is he can't ever find anyone strong enough to let him go all out.

Dark_Arbron posted...

Id say it goes beyond the military and into humanity as a whole. DB humans outside of the Z fighters are worse than muggles. They are morons. They actually believe a being that shrugged off military ordnance could be defeated by Mr Satan with his bare hands.

sadly this could happen in our world too

lol dude tried to reason logically with DBZ Super and then is like...yeah this part doesn't really make sense...

yea not even through with the video and spongebob is destroying galaxies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nlfjtLsSS8

A_Good_Boy posted...

I feel like it betrays your point to insinuate that the DBZ earth doesn't have the capacity to field weaponry on par with the real life earth while showing their military fighting a weapon created by an earthling in a cave that's capable of blowing up the solar system.

it doesn't at all

you suggest

A_Good_Boy posted...

the woman in the series that builds dragon radars, time machines, gravity machines, and develops heart medication that's effective on an alien never once considered protecting the planet with nukes

yet these dudes are using less powerful weapons and expect it to kill Cell

we can rightly assume they don't have nukes

A_Good_Boy posted...

All I know is that the woman in the series that builds dragon radars, time machines, gravity machines, and develops heart medication that's effective on an alien never once considered protecting the planet with nukes. Pretty sure there's an implication that they're not helpful against the fighters that show up and threaten the place.

If DBZ Earth had nukes why did they not use them?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI4SiLKfaPY

Also should mention Cell literally stood there and let them hit him with everything.

OriginalPlain2 posted...

Wait its NOT wet?!
this, this changes my reality

it is not that is what tc is trying to tell us

Fine if you guys want to throw out real world Physics our world still wins:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCkPunuEnFQ

checkmate

hope this just what it looks like cause only saw it after searching dbz videos this evening. appears it might be a meme of some sort

A_Good_Boy posted...

If the dude conguered at least a single planet then real life Earth stands no chance cause this is only just one planet too lol

You were implying he saw all sort of tech and stuff. If he was only on one planet he did not. He doesn't know what a nuke is.

OH WOW

it is WORSE than I thought

Frieza, as in his ENTIRE force only

only conquered 79

79 planets

WHAT!!!! You think Raditz was there at all of them! This dude not hardened at all. LMAO

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/2000113-dragon-ball-general/72297733

but this seems to checkout with how super implies the number of planets being

A_Good_Boy posted...

Do you also need to know the physics behind Raditz turning into a giant gorilla too, or just the one part that you think is a stupid gotcha?

It isn't my gotcha it is your gotcha. The writer didn't factor in these physics. If he did the moon can't just be casually exploded. So no, you can't just write off Radiation.

A_Good_Boy posted...

, that Raditz has been conquering planets since he was a child

Is this actually stated? If he fought on 3, then sure.

But Super implies Friezas entire force made the sum of planets just 28 and other universes aren't that much bigger.

This means the argument that Raditz is a hardened soldier who fought on countless planets and saw all types of weaponry a plothole.

A_Good_Boy posted...

That's me arguing real life physics in a hypothetical matchup vs you denouncing an act as being impossible despite it literally happening on screen twice. That's like arguing that Sherlock Holmes could never solve a crime and you refusing to believe any depiction of him doing so despite that very thing happening all the time right in front of you.

No that is assuming the writer carefully added physics to support your argument that Raditz knows all about harmful radiation when the writer probably doesn't even know about it as he thinks the moon can just go blip like it is nothing.

A_Good_Boy posted...

You gotta make up your mind holmes. Do you believe the things that the characters say happen in the series or don't you? You can't have it both ways.

I want to know if they actually state this because it isn't adding up.

A_Good_Boy posted...

Roshi did it and then Piccolo did it again a few years later. Why enter a topic about cartoon characters just to quibble over real life physics? You do know you're crying foul in a topic that's about a man that can turn into a giant gorilla during a full moon, right?

Because it is argued real life physics as why the methods used wouldn't work.
For example claiming he must be intimately understanding of radiation. Oh really?
Yet the moon just goes poof and no physics happen there. Don't think the writer took space radiation into consideration tbh.

Also where does it state:

A_Good_Boy posted...

The dude travels the stars, he's conquered worlds,

Only 28 worlds even have mortal life as proved already ITT

so post #2 confirmed water is not wet right?

wow that is sad :(

imagine working 3 years to get your degree and this happens

also no one casually blows up the moon
there should be actual repercussions like effects on gravity, debris and on and on

yet in these hypotheticals people want to try mathematically say how much force goku punch is or claim he can move at the speed of light when this is a series physics just doesn't apply correctly to

yea thinking more the Yajirobe cutting mentioned before just another instance of there is no real logic behind this show

fans will try to retcon it and salvage the logic with "but he MUST have used KI!" except not mentioned or anything so yea....

VFalcone posted...

Pretty sure Super just made that "28 planets" shit up anyway. Goku created a spirit bomb the size of a celestial body using the energy of lifeforms in Namek's solar system alone when against Frieza.

guess the more we try to make sense of Dragon Ball Z the more we realize it just doesn't make sense which exposes how dumb these arguments really are cause the same dude getting bruised by a regular actual normal gun just move his finger and vaporizes a city? no that doesn't make any sense let alone such vaporization breaks the law of physics to begin with as it produces no shockwave or gas or anything....

guess in the end just let DBZ fans think what they want cause none of it actually has real logic behind it
Edit: I am fan too but not a "hhaha Goku beats everyone! ahahha" type of fan