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TopicProgressives keep calling Trump a dictator, but now they want him to be one
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 7:41:14 AM
#149
Zeeak4444 posted...


Mal has been unable to state how advocating for gun control is unconstitutional or would make Trump a dictator. He's been unable to provide reason to consider a single proposal for gun control we've had unconstitutional.


Because he's bad at arguing. We've covered that.


Would you like to take up his fight instead?


Sure why not

It's questionable whether or not gun control in America would stop mass shootings.

A lot of the shooters either bought guns illegally or stole them from someone who bought them legally.

At the same time there's a lot of "near misses." for example The Orlando Shooter was turned away at a gun store because he was a lunatic, as a reuslt he just went to a different gun-store and bought his stuff.

And the Elliot Rogers guy actually was flagged by the police. They visited his home and spoke to him (when he had guns and a manfiesto in his home) and said he was a quiet, nice boy and then left.

So how do we know for sure that increased background checks or banning the sale of certain weaponry will stop people willing to kill 16 children from getting a gun?

I mean sure it worked for the UK and Japan and France and Australia and Canada and etc etc etc etc BUT they don't have the same gun culture, they don't have the same guns already in circulation, they don't have the same black market for illegal guns.

You'd be violating the second ammendment for something we're not even sure would work AND a third of the population would oppose aggressively.
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Topic"if only schools had armed guards!"
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 7:35:35 AM
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Anecdotal I know but if the schools I went to had armed guards or teachers with guns, people would have died.

Some of the kids used to drive the staff insane and some of the teachers were unstable.

One of the teachers got harrased and ended up being thrown down a flight of stairs (she was female BTW)

Another foreign teacher used to snap and beat children with sticks (she was fired)

Students used to get in fights, break into places (including after school was closed) and just generally be asswipes.

There would have been deaths and injuries. I cannot for the life of me see it working.

I also had metal dectectors too by the way and they didn't do a thing to stop people bringing things in. So I kinda laugh at anyone who supports them.
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TopicNikolas Cruz the Florida shooter regrets and is deeply sad, shares the pain.
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 7:31:23 AM
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Chicken posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
iClockwork posted...
a momentary lapse in judgement.


From all the evidence so far, he'd actually been pretty open about wanting to shoot people, bragged about his AR-15, and routinely spouted white supremacist bullshit on any forum that he could, so I wouldn't all it 'momentary'.


I wonder how many CE users fall under this description as well.

Dj vu

I am 97% you have said this exact same post in response to a very similar post before.
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TopicProgressives keep calling Trump a dictator, but now they want him to be one
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 7:30:28 AM
#147
thelovefist posted...
Why hasn't this topic been deleted yet? It is clearly intended for trolling.

I don't agree.
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TopicHow come Canada doesnt get all these mass shootings too?
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 7:29:05 AM
#13
darkjedilink posted...

No. How would their drug trade die if it were legal?

Because people wouldn't buy illegal dirty dangerous drugs from gang members and backalleys if drugs were being sold by clean taxed means?

Look no further than California and Weed. It's currerently super-expensive and awkward to buy legally yet it's crippled illegal weed sales.

Colorado Illegal weed sales went from 100% (obviously) to 27% in under a year.

Imagine the Cartels made 27% of what they made now? They'd have to look for ventures elsewhere

And those numbers are going to get lower as Weed gets cheaper and more popular legally.

Now imagine if all drugs were legal. They would be even cheaper.

There would be no money in running them illegally, especially with the risk involved.

The reason why Cartels make so much money is that there is literally billions of dollars to be made in drug running. You can take out an entire drug running network and would be replaced within a week

Now imagine instead there wasn't billions to make but a few hundred million (if that) and you were competing against legal sellers?

You'd turn illegal drug smuggling into illegal coca-Cola Smuggling. There'd be no money in it and no reason to kill people over it.
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TopicProgressives keep calling Trump a dictator, but now they want him to be one
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 7:19:39 AM
#142
Mal_Fet posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
In the context of Mass Shootings, especially in an epididemic that is unique to one single nation. I strongly disagree.

I reject your notion that a correlation between America (arguably the greatest country in the world) and lower homicide/suicide rates than some other nations proves that gun-control doesn't work and wouldn't help stop mass shootings.

A correlation doesn't imply causation. Mass shootings in Australia were already rare before the gun ban, which means fewer mass shootings afterward is pretty statistically insignificant.

And by thew way, the homicide rate in Australia dropped at a slower rate than America's did in the time after their gun ban. Shall we take that to mean a gun ban will result in slower homicide rate decline? It's a correlation, after all.

I'd note every correlation but not view it as causation.

That's logic 101.

The key thing is I feel like you're ignoring that this is a problem that is literally unique to America purely because you feel that it reflects poorly on values that you like.

That's where the rest of the world comes in. Not on whether or not guns are good or bad or whether or not suicides rates will be in flux. But on the fact no one apart from the US has this problem where the population is in fear and knows that every few months or so some nut (who is always male) is going to massacre a bunch of kids for no good reason.

And the logic of "Maybe we should have efforts to make it hard for that nut to get guns." does not seem unreasonable. Especially after it was successful elsewhere. Going "Well if we make those efforts people will starting killing themselves in droves." however is unreasonable.
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TopicProgressives keep calling Trump a dictator, but now they want him to be one
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 7:12:57 AM
#136
Zeeak4444 posted...
So @UnfairRepresent I have to ask now.

Is it delusion? Or is he just a disingenuous and dishonest person?

No it's not delusion.

We just disagree.

You don't need to be so rude.
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TopicProgressives keep calling Trump a dictator, but now they want him to be one
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 7:12:04 AM
#135
darkjedilink posted...

Gangbangers will kill more than that in the US in the next WEEK.

Yeah.

Which is why IMO we should legalize or decriminalize drugs. But that's a whole other topic.

One thing I think everyone in this topic can agree on is that gun control laws or the complete lack thereof would not stop gangs or drugrunners for shooting each other for profit.
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TopicProgressives keep calling Trump a dictator, but now they want him to be one
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 7:10:53 AM
#133
Mal_Fet posted...

Wrong. I said that looking only at mass shootings is missing the forest for the trees.


In the context of Mass Shootings, especially in an epididemic that is unique to one single nation. I strongly disagree.

I reject your notion that a correlation between America (arguably the greatest country in the world) and lower homicide/suicide rates than some other nations proves that gun-control doesn't work and wouldn't help stop mass shootings.

Especially up against the other correlation that nations which did have mass shootings and then increased gun control ended up no longer having mass shootings.

Your argument entirely is "Gun Control will cause spikes in homicide and suicide of greater value of lives than these massacared kids because guys in the UK keep stabbing each other all the time like bunnies with knives instead of dicks."

And you don't view that argument as a non-sequitur.

Hell I've literally seen you be angry and shout at people (usually Liberals) for viewing correlation in data as causation on several occasions, yet it's your only argument here. And it's not even a good one
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TopicProgressives keep calling Trump a dictator, but now they want him to be one
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 7:02:22 AM
#128
Mal_Fet posted...

And I deferred to your judgment and replaced the example I used with one that doesn't have the issues you raised.

What's. the. problem?


There isn't one really.

So here's an amusing gif of a dog:

ODam3xo
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TopicProgressives keep calling Trump a dictator, but now they want him to be one
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 7:01:16 AM
#127
Mal_Fet posted...

I brought up zero dead children. In fact, it was everyone else who, in response to my statistics-based arguments, that were saying shit like "17 kids are dead and you think that's OK!!!!!!!!"

You literally were arguing that it's acceptable so long as homicide rates and suicide rates were lower statistically than some other nations dude.

You can't argue that people were being unreasonable after you said that.
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TopicHow come Canada doesnt get all these mass shootings too?
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 7:00:05 AM
#9
pikachupwnage posted...

Yeah. Any serious gun control package needs to take drastic measure to DESTROY the Mexican cartels.

Don't even have to destroy them.

Legalizing or decriminalizing drugs would cripple the profits for Mexican Cartels in America within under a year.

And as a result gun violence would drop dramatically.
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TopicProgressives keep calling Trump a dictator, but now they want him to be one
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 6:58:08 AM
#121
Mal_Fet posted...

You took issue with how I chose to represent progressives,


No, I took issue with you falling into a trap of painting whole populations with views they don't have based on incorrect reasoning...

And you don't seem to realize why that's a bad thing.

You're the one talking about "progressives"

I'm not even entirely sure what "progressives" even means universially as progression is debatable.

The Rightest Wing political groups in the UK are more left wing than the Democrats in America.... So by that logic is UKIP and BNP progressive?

I mean Hitler was the father of Animal Cruelty laws, was he progressive?

I don't know or really care. Progressive feels like a buzzword that can mean anything you want it too.

I'm just pointing out you were wrong to think Corby represents the UK, The labour party or the average voter and that's something you need to be wary of in future if you're using things you read on the Internet to be your source for attitudes.
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TopicProgressives keep calling Trump a dictator, but now they want him to be one
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 6:50:20 AM
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Mal_Fet posted...

You didn't like the Corbyn example because you say he doesn't represent progressives so I have you en example that does. What's the problem?

I didn't say anything about "progressives" I said you need to beware the notion that Corbyn reflects the views of the British population, which is false.

Just be careful what you read, sites try to rile you up.

gp1829 posted...
byrone posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...

I'd say so. Yes

Neither is based in reality. They're both delusional.


It's just semantics who cares if it's delusional or just wrong. It's really not worth arguing about when you're both in agreement that is argument is flawed.

I suppose but I think the distinction has a big difference

Mal_Fet posted...

I thought gun control advocates always complain that it's "never a good time" to discuss gun control...? Well here I am discussing it. I thought that's what you all wanted

Starting out by saying supporting increased gun control is a Police State and Dictatorship is a dishonest opening to a discussion dude.

and that's before you started going off on unrelated tangets

Reminds me of Mr Garrison discussing Evolution.



You don't seem to want to discuss things with people, you seem to want to preach at them.
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TopicUK Recruitment consultant fired for telling truck driver no British allowed.
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 6:46:00 AM
#9
IloveJesus posted...
of a combination of Cameron's ineptitude

lolwut.

"Ok I'll let you have a vote." is ineptitude?
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TopicNikolas Cruz the Florida shooter regrets and is deeply sad, shares the pain.
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 6:45:07 AM
#15
Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
IClockwork is trying to be an edgier 2ND rate @UnfairRepresent . There's only room for the one contrarian on this board, so now to the king TC.

I disagree that I am a contrarian.
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TopicHow come Canada doesnt get all these mass shootings too?
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 6:44:09 AM
#6
Gun Culture is completely different.

The US owes (or at least the accepted belief is that it owes) it's existence and freedom to guns. So owning guns is literally part of the constitution.

As a result guns are idolized and worshipped. Have been for centuries. Families have them, some people's earliest memories are shooting with their parents.

This means there is an enormous amount of guns in circulation and a hundred million people who love them.

Meanwhile at the same time there is a constant influx of guns coming in from Mexico. And a generally drug/crime filled class of gangs and undesirables with guns also.

As a result guns are absolutely everywhere. Attempts to limit them are not taken seriously and there is a mass hysteria of both Gun Fear and Gun Worship that makes people unreasonable.

AS a result gun violence is really high.

This is not part of the history or culture of Canada Or Switzerland. And there is no Mexican boarder flooding guns in either.
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TopicNikolas Cruz the Florida shooter regrets and is deeply sad, shares the pain.
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 6:39:51 AM
#12
iClockwork posted...
Chicken posted...
ClockworkHare posted...
He's still alive?

Wow, didn't expect that....

He probably wussed out at the last second. They probably have him on suicide watch.

Supposedly he dropped the rifle and ran during the confusion first to a Walmart then to a McDonalds where he was taken into custody.

That's unusual.

Most of these killers have an endgame of killing themselves.

This guy wanted to live?

Suppose he got away. Sure he would have been caught within a week or so... But just imagine killing 17 kids and then the next day just going to McDonalds and watching The Simpsons like nothing happened
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TopicProgressives keep calling Trump a dictator, but now they want him to be one
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 6:34:26 AM
#105
Mal_Fet posted...

What do you want, a cohesive poll of progressives who view socialism positively?

Ok then:

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/democrats-poll-socialism-219600

Over half of all Democrats say socialism has a positive impact. And considering how surely fewer than half of all Democrats are actually progressives, I think it;s fair to say that basically all progressives (in the US at least) want socialism.

But.... what does any of this have to do with Corbyn and the UK population? O_o

Wut.


How is saying that the collective progressive dream is Venezuela and the UK is a Muslim nation different?


I'd say so. Yes.
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TopicProgressives keep calling Trump a dictator, but now they want him to be one
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 6:31:16 AM
#102
byrone posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Delusion would be like claiming the UK is a Muslim nation.

He says the collective progressive dream is Venezuela which is equally delusional as that.

I think you're conflating delusion with being wrong.

If I said it's 4:45 and it's actually 4:56 that's not delusion.

If I said "Well it actually is 4:45, the time people are just lying because they are out to get me as they know I'm planning to stop them!" then that's delusional.
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TopicProgressives keep calling Trump a dictator, but now they want him to be one
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 6:28:26 AM
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byrone posted...

No he's delusional. He's deluded himself into believing that one extreme example represents an entire group of people.

As I said he's a black and white guy.

"This guy has some power and thinks this but the population doesn't agree with him." is too gray.

I don't think that's the same thing as delusion. Delusion would be like claiming the UK is a Muslim nation.
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TopicProgressives keep calling Trump a dictator, but now they want him to be one
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 6:20:55 AM
#95
Zeeak4444 posted...
byrone posted...
You can't be this delusional. Can you?


He can.

Mal's not delusional. He's actually quite intelligent and often can be very insightful.

He's just bad at arguing. He's a very "black and white" guy. One side is 100% right, one is 100% wrong. He can't see or discuss nuance.
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TopicProgressives keep calling Trump a dictator, but now they want him to be one
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 6:19:24 AM
#94
Mal_Fet posted...

Ok so he was elected by people who represent their constituents. What difference does that make

The difference it makes is whether or not is fair to say that he represents the views of the average Labour party voter.

He really doesn't.

And that's not a defense nor an attack on either him or the Labour Party. It's just a fact. You're either lying or have been mislead or both if you think his views are a reflection of popular views in the UK.

His own party doesn't like him and average Joe Q does not vote for him. They vote for their local MP who whether Labour, Conservative or Liberal Democrats has different views to Corbyn.

Corbyn's entire rise to "power" was a house of cards.

And I'm not even saying Corbyn's views are wrong or bad. I'm just saying they're not reprensenative. You seem to think they are and that's incorrect.
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TopicUK Recruitment consultant fired for telling truck driver no British allowed.
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 6:14:12 AM
#5
IloveJesus posted...

More or less any point except the late 1990s to be honest.

The story you posted is not a representation of how things are at the moment. It's anecdotal, as you well know.

Oh come on

You're saying Europe and the UK were more tense in the 1970s when the UK JOINED the EU?
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TopicFox News sued again for outing a gay man/liar during $4.5 million lawsuit.
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 6:12:44 AM
#1
Right-wing news outlet Fox News is facing a lawsuit after allegedly outing a man as gay. Silas Pierce is suing the Fox News Network, claiming that Fox outed him as gay during a previous lawsuit.

The Fox News Network (FNN) originally went to court during a legal dispute with the production company of the potential reality show. In 2014, the network arranged for a reality series about a father and son business with production company Leftfield.

Pierce, who runs Tropic Estate Sales in Florida, was cast along with his family which included two sons. During the course of this filming, the network cancelled production of the show due to concerns that Pierce had lied about his family.

Leftfield then began a legal case against Fox for breach of contract, reportedly suing the media giant for $4.5 million.

Initial concerns allegedly arose at Fox after Pierces sons referred to him exclusively as Silas, rather than calling him Dad. Similar questions were then asked about Pierces wife Barbara, as doubt was cast about her authenticity as well.

According to court documents obtained by the Hollywood Reporter, Fox asked Leftfield for proof that the two young men shown on the show were Pierces sons.

The network was told that Pierce was gay and had nine children, two of which were on the show.

However, this caused the Fox News Network to become even more suspicious, as gay and lesbian people could not adopt in Florida at the time. The network then reportedly asked Leftfield for paperwork to prove the sons adoption.

According to the court documents, the production company claimed that Pierce had legal guardianship over the boys after they had been adopted by his parents prior to their deaths. However, this was later proved in court to be false, and that Pierce was not the boys adopted father or brother.

The documents reportedly state: Silas had no legal relationship with Matt and AJ whom he falsely claimed to have adopted and that Silas parents were not dead but instead very much alive and living in Florida.

This lawsuit between Fox and Leftfield was settled privately out of court in 2016. Pierce is now suing the Fox News Network and Leftfield for allegedly outing him as gay during these proceedings.

The case, filed last month in Floridas middle district court, reportedly names former Fox News co-president Bill Shine and the estate of former Fox CEO Roger Ailes as defendants.

Pierce is suing the Fox News Network for publishing private facts, breach of contract and interfering with a business.

He is reportedly seeking damages of at least $15,000. Fox News has filed a motion to dismiss the case.


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0lXwMbR

Forget the Reality TV show, just air this story

It's juicy enough as it is.
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TopicUK Recruitment consultant fired for telling truck driver no British allowed.
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 6:06:44 AM
#3
IloveJesus posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Man tensions between the UK and the rest of Europe are higher now than they have been since like the 1940s


No they aren't.

When would you say there were more tense?
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TopicProgressives keep calling Trump a dictator, but now they want him to be one
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 6:02:54 AM
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Mal_Fet posted...
byrone posted...
One person = all progressives?

An elected representative, by definition, represents his constituents.

If you're talking about Corbyn then the public didn't elect him.

Constituents vote for their local MP. The Party leader was decided by the official party and it was torn between 4 candiates who were all notoriously unpopular and nearly split the party.

Corbyn is not popular in the UK and it's a lie to say that he is. Both him and May have no faith from the general population.

Be careful what media sites tell you, its easy to fall for clickbait.

If you're not talking about Corbyn then disregard this
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TopicProgressives keep calling Trump a dictator, but now they want him to be one
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 5:59:40 AM
#76
The23rdMagus posted...

I didn't name any of them, nor mention Venezuela. Please try to stay on track.

Mal has about 7 or 8 arguments on standby that he pulls out when questioned about something.

They don't usually actually correlate to the topic at hand, that's why his posts are so disjointed.

So suicide rates are the argument for allowing kids to be slaughtered
Venezuela and Canada are the arguments for Progressives being bad.
And gun show loopholes may be exaggerated is the arugment for.... I'm not even sure anymore.

I'm sure he has something about Israel on Standby also.

But it sorta works. You'll notice he's successfully steered this conversation away from the US' mass shooting epidemic, specifically the school shootings. Yet meanwhile has not adressed a single point raised about them.
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TopicProgressives keep calling Trump a dictator, but now they want him to be one
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 5:53:34 AM
#63
Mal_Fet posted...
byrone posted...

How's Canada, France, Norway, Germany, the UK doing?

Not embodying all progressive ideas, that's for sure..

It's almost like some progressive ideas are good and some are bad...
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TopicOne of the most deep red areas of Florida flips blue, GOP infighting begins.
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 5:52:11 AM
#11
BLAKUboy posted...
prince_leo posted...
I hope the momentum is kept for Nov. I really do

The drastic shifts to the left have been consistent for over a year now. Even in elections Democrats lost they were by far slimmer margins than they should have been.

They still lost
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TopicUK Recruitment consultant fired for telling truck driver no British allowed.
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02/16/18 5:50:40 AM
#1
A recruitment consultant has been fired for telling a lorry driver that he wouldnt be given a job interview because he is British. Michael Fowler, 39, applied for the job eight miles away from his home in Salisbury, Witlshire.

However, he received an email from Bulgarian recruitment consultant Plamena Ivanova saying Our positions exclude British candidates. Blu Global said that Ms Ivanova has now lost her job as a result of the email in which she said: Hi Michael. Are you British because our positions exclude British candidates?.

The company said it was completely shocked at what had happened. Recruitment consultant fired for telling lorry driver no Brits allowed. Michael, who has been a driver for 12 years and had applied for the position on job-site Indeed, said it was advertised for drivers to live and work in the EU.

The ad specified that applicants must be EU citizens and have a good level of English. I was just gobsmacked, he said. I thought I must have read the job advert wrong, but I hadnt.

A spokesperson for Blu Global confirmed Ms Ivanoa no longer worked for the company and said: We refute any allegations that we, as a business, discriminate in any way against our UK-based applicants.

No candidate is denied a chance of employment based on their nationality, age, race, gender or sexual orientation. We can confirm that we continuously place candidates of European and British nationality with all of our past and present clients as we advertise for, and recruit, candidates both in the UK and across mainland Europe.

Any deviation from this policy, by any member of staff or any independent person or organisation acting under or using the Blu Global brand, is not supported in any way by the company.

We will fully investigate this allegation.

Mr Fowler added: I work for agencies all the time. I guess I was shocked because Ive been doing this job for 12 years and you get drivers from everywhere. Ive never really experienced anything like this before, everyone works together normally.


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AiHSiTk

Man tensions between the UK and the rest of Europe are higher now than they have been since like the 1940s
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TopicProgressives keep calling Trump a dictator, but now they want him to be one
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 5:44:47 AM
#46
Mal_Fet posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...

You're literally arguing that mass shootings of schools in America is A-okay

Look if you're just going to keep lying

Mal_Fet posted...
It's not worse to be killed in a mass shooting than it is to be killed in any other circumstance. That's why the homicide rate is what matters.


Uhuh

If you want to be pedantic you literally didn't say "A-okay" but you were arguing that it doesn't matter if kids are mowed down in schools so long as we have a generally lower homicide rate than other nations.

Which is madness and horrific. There's no reason to use the fact America is a first-world nation as an excuse to allow people to suffer and die just because "Well our numbers still might not be as bad as their numbers."

"A-okay" is good shorthand for that logic.
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TopicProgressives keep calling Trump a dictator, but now they want him to be one
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 5:41:12 AM
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Mal_Fet posted...

No it isn't. And since we know that banning guns doesn't actually prevent homicides,

We don't know that.

On a global scale there is a debatable correleation according to some sources. That's all we know.

dhfU7U2

I mean rape and murder rates have globally dropped since the invention of Pogs.

Mal_Fet posted...
it would be pertinent to come up with some other, better solution then, right?

Yes.

And stricter gun-control is one that has nearly universially succeded in crippling mass shootings in every other nation on Earth. Something you keep ignoring.

So maybe we should try that?
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TopicProgressives keep calling Trump a dictator, but now they want him to be one
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 5:37:05 AM
#34
Mal_Fet posted...
all the relevant knowledge about firearms and the statistics thereof are on the side of gun rights supporters

That's because you just pick whatever statistics you find that support pro-gun arguments and declare them relevant.

Then ignore anything that does not.

You're literally arguing that mass shootings of schools in America is A-okay because you found some research that said there are less suicides in America than Lithuania and Japan.

That's not rational...

Mal_Fet posted...
People who advocate gun control are largely slacktivist keyboard warriors who need it explained to them what the difference between an "assault rifle" and an "assault weapon", that a semi-automatic isn't a machine gun, and that the AR in AR-15 doesn't stand for "assault rifle".


So how about instead of going "You want Trump to be a dictator police state liberal cuck slacktivist idiot" you explain to them what the guns are and how they work?

You know talk to people instead of being hyperbolic and emotional.
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TopicFrance drops several Rugby players from team after they harrased Scottish girls.
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 5:33:32 AM
#3
Dr_Agon posted...
They will still beat Italy though.

Well yeah.

I think CE could possibly beat Italy if they picked the best users. Italy sucks.
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TopicProgressives keep calling Trump a dictator, but now they want him to be one
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 5:32:17 AM
#31
Mal_Fet posted...

Why, because the graphs for the overall homicide rate completely blows your argument out of the water?

I haven't made an argument other than saying the mass shooting epidemic is unique to America.

And you dodged that....

Mal_Fet posted...

It's not worse to be killed in a mass shooting than it is to be killed in any other circumstance. That's why the homicide rate is what matters.


So it's cool to have children mowed down over and over and over and over and over and over mercilessly so long as we assume that correleation = casuation with random homicide (and fucking suicide) rates?

Here's a crazy idea, how about we keep homicides low because America is a great country... AND stop the mass slaughter of children that happens routinely and no other nation deals with?

You have this weird assumption that we have to pick between a net body of 100 dead kids or 150 dead adults and you're just picking the kids because it's a smaller number.

It's a really weird argument.
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TopicITT we attempt to find the most useless fact on Wikipedia
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 5:28:57 AM
#2
Not really useless I guess but when I made my pizza topic I stumbled across this:

In 2012, the world's largest pizza was made in Rome, and was measured to be 1261.65 square metres.
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TopicProgressives keep calling Trump a dictator, but now they want him to be one
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 5:25:24 AM
#28
scar the 1 posted...
FWIW, I think Americans suck at talking about guns. One side often wants blanket bans (fishing for votes) and the other side cries fascism as soon as anything with the word "gun" in it gets proposed. Meanwhile they're in a deadlock and won't even fund the appropriate research to begin understanding the issue.

I think that's the problem IMO.

The Gun Worship from people like TC and the gun Fear from Liberals means neither "side" is rational and nothing is done as Children are routinely mowed down.

Everyone's just so unreasonable and emotional about the whole thing.
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TopicProgressives keep calling Trump a dictator, but now they want him to be one
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 5:23:00 AM
#26
Okay now show me the graphs for mass shootings, specifically focusing on school shootings worldwide.

You know the thing we are all talking about which is uniquely a problem in America yet you refuse to act like it is or that guns are related.

Why is it that the UK had 1 mass school shooting, increased gun laws and the never had another one?

Meanwhile you will never admit this but we both know there is going to be another at least 2 school shootings with 5+ dead in the US in 2018 alone. At least.
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TopicFrance drops several Rugby players from team after they harrased Scottish girls.
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 5:20:36 AM
#1
Several players have been left out of the France squad to face Italy in their next Six Nations game after the French Rugby Federation said it had sanctioned those who went on a night out following the defeat by Scotland.

Jacques Brunel has decided to exclude from that list the players who went out after the defeat in Scotland, the FFR said. With this inappropriate behaviour, they failed to respect their duty as international players.

Alexandre Lapandry, Arthur Iturria, Sekou Macalou, Anthony Belleau, Flix Lambey, Jonathan Danty, Rmi Lamerat, Louis Picamoles and Teddy Thomas, who scored two tries against Scotland, do not feature in the squad for the game on 23 February in Marseille. However, the FFR did not name the players sanctioned.

The FFR said on Monday that some players had been interviewed by Scottish authorities. Police Scotland said that following an initial report of sexual assault in Edinburgh city centre during the early hours of 12 February, police conducted various lines of inquiry, including speaking to a number of potential witnesses. These inquiries have established that no crime has been committed.

France lost their first two games, a 15-13 cliff hanger against Ireland in Paris and 32-26 to Scotland at Murrayfield on Saturday.


Full Article: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/feb/13/france-drop-players-inappropriate-behaviour-after-six-nations-defeat-scotland

lbto3ko

80/80

I guess French is not the language of love after all

What is it with athletes? Why can't they keep their hands off girls who aren't interested in them?
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TopicProgressives keep calling Trump a dictator, but now they want him to be one
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 5:13:44 AM
#20
Mal_Fet posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
I wasn't aware passing/advocating for legislation was something dictators do.

Passing legislation that bans guns AND going directly against the Constitution is a hallmark of dictatorship, yes.

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"This has worked in every other nation on Earth except Switzerland and they don't have these problems."

"Oh yeah! Well if it worked literally everywhere else than that means it worked when every single EVIL person did it!"

"....Yeah? so?

"WELL THEREFORE IT'S CLEARLY EVIL!"

All of those dudes drank milk, wore clothes, drove cars and used flushable toilets too dude. You gonna give those up?
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TopicMan repeatedly sent over 100 Pizzas by stalker for no apparent reason.
UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 5:11:22 AM
#1
A German lawyer is being bombarded with random deliveries of food by what has been described as a case of severe pizza stalking. Guido Grolle likes pizza, but he said that it is becoming so bad that he is unable to work.

He has already received over 100 orders in the last two and a half weeks with delivery drivers often passing one another as they drop off their orders. They appear at all times of the night and hes even received notifications while hes been in the shower getting ready for work.

Some pizzerias have cottoned on to whats happening and have called him to check whether he really has ordered anything from them. There have been so many pizzas ordered that delivery drivers have been bumping into one another in the street

It is a mystery as to who is behind the bizarre stunt. Normally they have been sending pizzas to his office in Dortmund, but since the pizzerias cottoned on the pizza flinger has started sending sushi, sausage and Greek food. He has filed a complaint, turned off his work phone and put his emails through a filter just so he can get through his work.

Another theory is that hes been targeted because someone has mistaken him for being part of a bailiff company that is in the same building as his legal firm. Police are treating the incident as stalking because the offender is not being financially or materially enriched by what is happening.

Investigations are continuing.


Full Article: http://metro.co.uk/2018/02/16/severe-pizza-stalker-sent-100-pizzas-lawyer-7317038/

C4XpuHE

Just another day in Germanty
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TopicBen Shapiro complains about the Black Panther.
UnfairRepresent
02/15/18 2:52:16 PM
#194
Solar_Crimson posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
Blade and Catwoman werent enough

Lol what. Hey black people you had two movies, why do you need more

Don't forget Steel
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TopicMother murders daughter by shoving a crucifix down her throat
UnfairRepresent
02/15/18 2:22:55 PM
#8
Sad
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TopicChristian mother arrested and imprisoned for baptizing her daughter.
UnfairRepresent
02/15/18 2:01:13 PM
#16
Yeah I didn't think you had an answer or point
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TopicChristian mother arrested and imprisoned for baptizing her daughter.
UnfairRepresent
02/15/18 1:59:34 PM
#13
s0nicfan posted...


Because its not against the catholic faith to eat pork.

So?
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TopicChristian mother arrested and imprisoned for baptizing her daughter.
UnfairRepresent
02/15/18 1:54:31 PM
#10
s0nicfan posted...


If they were muslims?

Why only if they're Muslims?

UnfairRepresent posted...
the final authority on all legal custody decisions, including those concerning religion.


It concerns religion.

You're pretending not to understand why this is controversial.

It's like you're attempting to the least logical statements that you possible can in weak attempts to bait people into questioning your intelligence just so you can mark them.
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TopicChristian mother arrested and imprisoned for baptizing her daughter.
UnfairRepresent
02/15/18 1:50:31 PM
#8
So if she fed her daughter pork one day in your opinion is that illegal and should she be arrested for making decisions concerning religion?

And he was never seen again.
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TopicEPA chief flies first class only because people are mean to him in coach
UnfairRepresent
02/15/18 1:49:35 PM
#3
byrone posted...
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/13/politics/epa-scott-pruitt-flights-first-class/index.html

We live in a very toxic environment politically, particularly around issues of the environment,"


lmao

Probably just a bullshit excuse to fly first class. Most people don't know who the fuck the EPA chief is.

Corrupt people are hypocrites

More at 11
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TopicChristian mother arrested and imprisoned for baptizing her daughter.
UnfairRepresent
02/15/18 1:48:43 PM
#5
s0nicfan posted...
Actual story: Woman held in contempt of court for violating judge's orders on decisions regarding the child.

Over Baptizing her daughter.
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