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Umitencho posted...

This has not been a great month for him.

This week alone Trump has legalized hemp, enacted prison reform so black people stop getting put in jail for completely useless things that white people never get jail time for (a policy written by Hillary Clinton during her husband's term shortly after her "black men are super predators that need to be brought to heel" speech, just FYI), and is ending the wars in Syria and Afghanistan that have lasted almost 20 years. I seem to recall most people being against those wars in the 2000s. He's also let the government shut down to make democrats look even worse than usual, because democrats would rather have open borders and troops in in the Middle East forever than actually have a strong country at home. I love when the government shuts down, because Washington produces nothing whatsoever and we lose nothing when those idiots aren't working.

Literally only a democrat would be enraged by any of this stuff. Whatever happened to the anti-war folks from the 2000s who never wanted us in the Middle East in the first place? Or is that out the window because you people are completely brainwashed by mainstream media into "Orange Man Bad" nonsense? Trump could cure cancer and you people would still complain. Not that we didn't already have proof of this but this week has provided some hilarious examples.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

The Kurds are our allies (and Erdogan, though yes, an unfortunately necessary ally, is a piece of shit). They are not terrorists.

If Germany was going to roll tanks into France we wouldn't be like "oh yeah cool guys, you do whatever!"

This literally happened once.
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Division 8 Round 1: (4)Lara Croft vs (13)Metal Man

(4)Lara Croft - 19706 [67.89%]
(13)Metal Man - 9319 [32.11%]
Total Votes - 29025
Prediction Percentage - 89.46%

Hopefully HaRRicH and I can make up one day, because his topics and his rallies are always super fun. The cause celebre this year was for Metal Man, which was pretty hilarious because who knows if some random robot master from 1988 (christ I'm old, I remember when Mega Man 2 came out) would even be eligible.

Turns out he was! This match was never intended to actually be a match, it was just a nod from Allen to Board 8 for a job well done over the years. None of us had any delusions of Metal Man actually winning this match, and it's hard to really look at what Lara did here as anything impressive. Congrats, you got 68% on a mid boss that no one actually cares about, who is so awful that he's weak against his own weapon. I'm convinced 90% of the people who voted for Metal Man in this match did so because Mega Man in Smash Bros uses the metal blades as one of the B moves. The other 10% probably voted for him because of how hilariously absurd the metal blades actually are in Mega Man 2. You could do an ESPN 30 For 30 about just how much they utterly break the game.

I do know that no one actually gives a crap about Lara Croft anymore. She won this match by default. It's as simple as that. Her glory years were back in the 90s and with Square now publishing the Tomb Raider games, the brand is radioactive. One of the only things worse would be "Blizzard" or "Electronic Arts" on the box. We would see proof of this in round two soon enough.
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Nanis23 posted...

To be honest, saying "lowest ever" when the entire contest is pretty much our all-time lowest ever vote totals (excluding BYIG) is not really worth much

Worth it when it makes Draven look terrible.
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Everyone knows the story of the 2013 contest by now. Draven escaped round one with a late rally, caught fire in round 2, and then it was a shitstorm. We don't need to revisit how embarrassing Board 8 and the League subreddit both acted, though anyone on Board 8 who acts like B8 wasn't just as bad as them is being intellectually dishonest. You all acted like garbage. Anyway Draven won the contest, which we all know by now.

People knew Draven would be weaker this time, but no one saw this insanity coming. Amaterasu scored something like the first 70 votes of the poll, and before long people realized Draven was about to pay, big time, for what he did in 2013. The crazy thing is Amaterasu never stopped going up and never lost percentage. There would be no rallies. There would be no miracles. Just Amaterasu of all characters scoring the biggest blowout of the contest. By pure votes one on one, Draven and his 3439 votes were the lowest we've ever seen in a 1v1 poll. Ever. Only the failure of Blizzard even comes close, but here's the thing. Amaterasu did this. Can you imagine if Draven was up against a universally loved character or game instead of a mediocre contest entrant like Amaterasu? How many votes does Draven get here against Zelda, Mega Man, Solid Snake, or Chrono Trigger? 1500? Maybe 2000?

It can't actually be overstated how nuts this blowout was, and it shouldn't be a footnote in contest history just because it happened during the dead era on our web site. I've alluded to this match several times in the PCA so far, but rallybait characters got destroyed in this contest and Draven himself ate the biggest blowout of them all. It's a fitting punishment for 2013, and I say this as someone who supports rallies. There was one more rallybait character to get rid of, but this match showed us we had nothing to worry about. D.Va wasn't going to pull off a damn thing this year. Not in this environment. It's also really hilarious to see Amaterasu up there with the likes of Nintendo elite in our record books. It shows just how badly people wanted Draven to get his ass whipped. Hell before this match, only Mega Man X had broken 80% in a poll. Amaterasu beat that by 8%. That's just nuts.

It leads to the obvious question: Can a rally ever happen again on our site? I think so, but this just wasn't the year for it. Simple as that.
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Division 5 Round 1: (5)Amaterasu vs (12)Draven

(5)Amaterasu - 25584 [88.15%]
(12)Draven - 3439 [11.85%]
Total Votes - 29023
Prediction Percentage - 72.39%

For the sake of this writeup, I'm only historically looking at 1v1 results. If someone else wants to look up 4ways or 3ways, have fun.

In our very first contest, the Summer 2002 Contest, Ms. Pac-Man only scored 5257 votes in a poll. It was the lowest of that contest: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/968-west-division-round-1-mega-man-vs-ms-pac-man

In the Summer 2003 Contest, something called AiAi scored 8802 votes in a poll. It was the lowest of that contest: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/1305-north-division-round-1-link-vs-aiai

In the Spring 2004 Contest, our first games contest, Adventure only scored 4686 votes in a poll. It was the lowest of that contest: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/1606-division-8-round-1-the-legend-of-zelda-vs-adventure

In the Summer 2004 Contest, Tanner only scored 4492 votes in a poll. It was the lowest of that contest: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/1733-20xx-division-round-1-solid-snake-vs-tanner

In the villains contest, Giygas only scored 11966 votes in a poll. It was the lowest of that contest: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2001-triforce-division-round-1-ganondorf-vs-giygas

In the Summer 2005 Contest, Yuri Hyuga only scored 10813 votes in a poll. It was the lowest of that contest: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2070-zebes-division-round-1-samus-aran-vs-yuri-hyuga

In the series contest, Madden NFL only scored 9186 in a poll. It was the lowest of that contest: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2433-mushroom-division-round-1-super-mario-bros-vs-madden-nfl

In the Summer 2006 Contest, Carmen Sandiego only scored 16578 votes in a poll. It was the lowest of that contest: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2507-triforce-division-round-1-zelda-vs-carmen-sandiego

In the Fall 2010 Contest, Falco only scored 10419 votes in a poll. It was the lowest of that contest: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3746-mushroom-division-round-1-mario-vs-falco-lombardi

In the Rivalry Rumble, Arthas and Illidan only scored 4598 votes in a poll. It was the lowest of that contest, and good, because fuck Blizzard. They are indefensible trash: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/4526-south-division-round-1-link-vs-ganondorf-arthas-vs-illidan

In the Fall 2015 Contest, Hearthstone only scored 3604 votes in a poll. It was the lowest of that contest, and good, because Hearthstone is by far the worst video game ever made: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6083-best-game-ever-day-9-zelda-ocarina-of-time-vs-hearthstone

That brings us to this match, but before we do, take a deep dive into those polls. The winners, in order: Mega Man, Link, a Zelda game, Solid Snake, Ganondorf, Samus, the Mario series, Zelda, Mario, Link + Ganon, and a Zelda game. Snake is the only odd one out, and his Tanner match was pretty blatant SFF on top of Snake himself bending the knee to Nintendo. Hold that thought.
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

Ulti_PCA posted...

George Romero was Albion.

Tai was maplejet, just as a random note. I can't believe no one ever figured that one out.

Lmao I fucking love b8 conspiracy theories

Conspiracy theory implies it's not true. Romero = Albion is a very well known fact.

I had already known Tai = maplejet, but when maplejet finally left this site the Tai account was closed on the exact same day. It's the best you can get with public info.
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KamikazePotato posted...

what's a Fallout 3 again?

HeroicSpiderPig posted...

One of the best touches George Romero had in his AIM interview after Kefka/Vercetti was claiming to have stuffed *against* Starcraft in all of its matches, but that there had been an even more powerful force stuffing for it instead.

Speaking of Undertale, I side with red sox that it could have lost. I know that the stats Bacon provided said that the Twitter account was the source of most of the rallied votes, but I think that might be a technicality regarding how refferrals are recorded.

I've mentioned this before, but there was one Tumblr account that was key to all of this. I don't remember it's name, but it was a fairly generic looking Tumblr that mostly created user requested Pokemon sprites for people. Its reach was so large, that whenever this Tumblr reposted something about the contest, the amount of overall reposts on Tumblr would surge, and Undertale would start slicing off votes again. Once I figured out how much traffic it was causing, I started monitoring this Tumblr, and Undertale's surges were very much tied to it. Whenever Undertale started lagging, the person would repost about the contest again, and the surges would restart. If this one person went on vacation or something, I'm not sure Undertale could have won. I thought that Pokemon might have had a shot considering the subject of the Tumblr, but I guess not.

George Romero was Albion.

Tai was maplejet, just as a random note. I can't believe no one ever figured that one out.
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transience posted...

12.



Every match going forward is going to have some level of madness in it. That's just what makes a good match great.

I don't have the words -- or more specifically, the data -- to do this one justice. It was a "you had to be there" moment. The only thing comparable to what Starcraft did was Draven, and we never truly saw Draven in a close match due to, well, we'll get there soon. Starcraft looked like it had met its match and then the most insane rally I've ever seen just springs to life. There was one update (15 minute, of course) that it won by like 900 votes. The vote total spiked by 500.

Starcraft had finally gone too far, and Ceej ended up killing votes that he could find via public proxy lists or some such. Melee was just out of its league. Personally, I think the Wind Waker result was too much for gamefaqs to handle. You know how people liked L-Block in 2007, but then 2008 came and everyone recoiled in terror? That was what happened after the Wind Waker match. Starcraft was cute when it was beating bad games, but when you come at the king and tumble it like that, people take you seriously. Starcraft could never stand up to Melee on traditional grounds so it went dark.

Now, was there cheating in Wind Waker? Honestly, who the hell knows. Starcraft was nuts, a good kind of nuts. A kind of nuts that could eventually lose to a stronger game and with an admin that paid close attention. Things weren't as tight on the security side of the internet in 2004. It was thanks to stuff like Starcraft and George Romero that we've had relatively legit results since. Some may dispute that, but I know Starcraft when I see it, and outside of Draven or Undertale we haven't seen it since.

I want to point out that I don't believe Ceej actually removed votes. He just made a post saying he knew Starcraft was cheating. When that topic was made, the cheating literally immediately stopped and Melee won. I'm like 99% sure that poll result is the one without any results removed.
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CaptainOfCrush posted...

Back in 2002, I had never played a Metroid game and considered it an abomination that Samus would beat an icon like Sonic. By the time we got a rematch in 2004, I had beaten Prime/Super and was then and forever in the Samus camp.

We're in similar boats, except I was in the Samus camp entirely because of Smash 64. Didn't play a Metroid game until like 2004.
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CaptainOfCrush posted...

I remember a pre-contest AIM convo with Ulti back in 2005 (the days when I was 19 and totally sucking up to him). Actually, it only took three minutes to find thanks to AIM logging all my convos from those days:

yoblazer33 (8:24:26 PM): Must make you happy having Magus a lock in his division? =P
Ultimaterializer (8:24:33 PM): no
Ultimaterializer (8:24:34 PM): not at all
Ultimaterializer (8:24:49 PM): I mean damn, he only gets to beat Knuckles, Squall, and some other idiot with an annoying fanbase
Ultimaterializer (8:25:04 PM): Seeing swirldude's favorite character get his face kicked in by Magus is awesome

Sooooo yeah, it took us by surprise.

And here I was thinking I would escape the self ownage of that match LOL

Good times. Good times.
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Paratroopa1 posted...

I still don't really get why Luigi is so weak

Everyone who knows Mario also knows Luigi, and Luigi consistently outperforms Mario in "favorite Mario character" polls, and I feel like Luigi just generally has a reputation as being cooler because... idk, he's Luigi

and yet, not only is Mario stronger, he's WAY stronger. and this is still true, despite the fact that Luigi's stock has ONLY risen over time

well ok Luigi might be a little closer since he was decently close to Tifa but... I don't know, it really feels like Luigi should be closer to a Zelda-like presence than he is. I don't really "get" why he isn't stronger

Because he's a pussy.

I legitimately do not have a better answer. Even rho male type men who play video games tedn to gravitate away from characters like Luigi. The guy has strength but it clearly has a cap on it.
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I work 14 hours on Thursdays and Fridays, hence the delay. Didn't want to half-ass any writeups that are actually meant to be interesting!

Getting back to it.
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With the path I took I went through the nova skeleton section and the guardian room, which didn't help.
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KanzarisKelshen posted...

...man what

like I get not liking TWEWY controls even though I absolutely love them, but Richter handling bad? His inputs were dead simple, I'm pretty sure I beat galamoth in under six hours with him on my second playthrough (first was obviously Alucard). It's not like he asks for Soul Steal stuff all the time, as I recall the two inputs to memorize are his airdash and highjump. I'm terrible at inputs but I'm pretty sure I can record myself blazing through SotN with him.

You do not understand how difficult that dash input is with how massive my hands are. I wish I was even kidding.

https://twitter.com/Ultimaterializr/status/1075959420587307009

I bet you if my fight stick still worked and I played the game on that I would actually like the character. But fuck em.
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Lopen posted...

Also Richter has one of the best controls in gaming in SotN.

This is bullshit and you full well know it. Liking him is fine. "Best controls in gaming"? Come on bro, don't insult my intelligence.
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Also bed time. Work 14 hours today and got 12 more tomorrow.
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Didn't work for me. The badge eventually wears off or whatever. It was such a joke with Falcon. Side B, you win.
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He is fun in Smash and is winning me over a little, don't get me wrong, but fuck 'em. He deserved to get his ass whooped. Shout out to Captain Falcon for lapping this fucking clown. What a well deserved 60-40 from one of the biggest Smash boost characters ever. I would love to know how many people knew who this dude was before Smash 64. I sure as hell didn't know him. Didn't know Ness or Samus either, let alone Falcon. I would bet at least 95% of his strength comes from Smash Bros alone, yet here is he going 60-40 on a fool. Good show bro. Sucks you had to deal with Sephiroth round 2, because I'm extra bullish on the guy right now with how easily he can cheese the stupid Dr. Wily spirit battle in Ultimate.

You know who sucks ass in that fight? Richter Belmont. Know who can cheese it and win without thinking? CAPTAIN MOTHER FUCKING FALCON, THAT'S WHO. Yet another reason why this match was JUSTICE.
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Division 8 Round 1: (8)Richter Belmont vs (9)Captain Falcon

(8)Richter Belmont - 11496 [39.6%]
(9)Captain Falcon - 17531 [60.4%]
Total Votes - 29027
Prediction Percentage - 71.76%

Richter Belmont got a lot of nominations and a ton of hype to pull an upset in this match thanks to this trailer for Smash Bros Ultimate.



I know it's a trailer for Simon, but Richter was just randomly thrown in there and it shocked everyone. He actually got a higher seed than Simon in this contest, if you can believe that. That trailer even got Alucard a ton of run. And here I am feeling like the odd one out, because fuck Richter Belmont. @KanzarisKelshen and I keep struggling to figure out why I hate games like The World Ends With You, Shadow of the Colossus, the Gwendolyn path of Odin Sphere, and so on. I've finally figured it out. If a character handles like fucking garbage, I'm done with them. It's why Richter Belmont can fuck right off. He's winning me back over in Smash but good hell is he ass in Castlevania. I recently got the platinum trophy in the Rondo of Blood + Symphony of the Night PS4 port, which means I had to suffer through this asshole's garbage-ass handling. Twice. I at least sort of understand why Simon handles like shit. It was the NES. You get a half pass for being on such a weird system. But Richter? Nope.

In Rondo of Blood, my first goal was to unlock Maria Renard ASAP and just get the 100% as her, because Richter fucking sucks. That game was in no way designed for him to do well. At least Maria gets a double jump and weapons that can actually handle the game, bad as it is with you dying in 1-3 hits to literally anything and having such trash level design. Rondo is complete and utter sewage, but playing as Maria makes it sort of bearable with her handling ability.

Then you play through Symphony of the Night and have a total blast with Alucard while Richter is sitting there letting Shaft do whatever he wants like the little punk that he is. Alucard has to bail his sorry ass out, twice, and it's no big deal. And my reward for clearing everything as Alucard? Having to beat the game with this useless garbage and dealing with all the same issues from Rondo of Blood. Hey Konami, bad handling, bad move inputs, and dying to anything in 1-3 hits wasn't fun the first time. Why the fuck would you not learn from your mistake? Richter's handling is absolute shit, his HP is shit, his move inputs are embarrassing, and his actual character is complete dick. At least Simon, for having similar handling problems, is modeled after Conan the Barbarian. Simon is a man's man. Richter is an idiot.

Do not let this video fool you. These inputs are Virtua Fighter tier of bullshit and I am 100% convinced this guy modded his controller or hacked the game for simpler inputs or something. There is just no way. We can't just have a simple hadouken motion for dash, oh no. Gotta have us hit up first for some dumb reason. Can't have high jump be dragon punch, oh no. Gotta hit down then up then jump. Dumb.


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Division 8 Round 1: (1)Sephiroth vs (16)Albert Wesker

(1)Sephiroth - 20400 [70.28%]
(16)Albert Wesker - 8625 [29.72%]
Total Votes - 29025
Prediction Percentage - 90.67%

This match seems oddly familiar, but I can't quite put my finger on it. Hmm.

Oh yeah! https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2009-ruin-division-round-2-kefka-vs-wesker

It was almost the same exact percentages and the same exact trends, too. It was freaking eerie, and it kind of showed how off Sephiroth would be for this entire contest. Division 8 in general was the oddball division, and I feel like Allen did this intentionally to make sure Sephiroth would end up in the Noble Nine's group post-contest instead of just totally snubbing him. With the way this bracket was set up, either legends were waiting for every division winner in a double elimination bracket. This meant one had to be left out, which ended up being Sephiroth.

Message From Ultima_X on 10/05/2018
For archiving/post contest purposes only (you're free to just ban me if I share this one publicly before the contest ends, seriously, got no plans on spilling this before its due date): why was Sephiroth not counted as a legend despite winning a contest in the past? Did he just get the least amount of nominations? Did the other 8 get ordered by nomination number or was it kind of planned out intentionally?

If this gets answered, am I free to share the info when the contest ends and I do my writeups or no?

Message From GameFAQs on 10/05/2018
We only needed eight for the double elimination bracket and Sephiroth was the most obvious cut since Final Fantasy VII already has a more popular rep in Cloud. You can share this with anyone since it's not a big secret and I'm sure plenty of people figured it out on their own.

So there you go. But Allen was smart about this and made Sephiroth's division hilariously weak to make sure he won it. Only two threats were possible, a rallied Draven or Seph being so weak now that Ryu would beat him with a Smash boost. Seph would end up really weak this contest compared to what he was, but he's not that weak. Not yet, anyway.

I would love to see a Seph vs Kefka match just to see where Wesker actually stands. Wesker got such a raw deal in this contest. I'm sure Seph is stronger than Kefka, but both of them having identical matches with the guy is just weird.
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Anagram posted...

Anyone have Snake/Sora? I don't remember it.

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/sc2k5/br51.jpg
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transience posted...

23.



This match was gigantic. I'm pretty sure the #1 reason it was gigantic was because of the 1 and the 16 next to each other's name, though. If memory serves, you only got one nomination per console. Halo was literally the only Xbox game of note whereas Starcraft had to deal with the entire history of PC games. It was a bad system. Everything about spring 2004 was a bad idea, really. And it was amazing despite itself.

Make this match an 8-9 and it doesn't have the same level of hype. I still think it's a huge result though, even though no one should really pick Halo to be a huge favourite after watching Master Chief struggle with a dude named Felix. PC games were utter garbage in these contests. Probably the most notable example of a PC character was Gordon Freeman and he was the ultimate laughingstock by the time spring 2004 came around. Starcraft? It was hard to really believe in Starcraft. But it was also hard to see Halo going anywhere. I have no way to verify this, but I bet most people had it losing to Kingdom Hearts in the next round. (speaking of super odd results: Kingdom Hearts/Soul Calibur. I think Janus took Soul Calibur to beat Metal Gear in the series contest based off of that result alone. spring 2004, man. there won't ever be another like it.)

This match was an intense back and forth. Starcraft killed the night and Halo killed the day. Halo got up 1100 votes with 5 and a half hours to go and then Starcraft just went to work. It looked like it was probably going too slow and then, suddenly, it was over. It took like an hour and a half for a 600 vote lead to disappear.

And with that, Starcraft, and possibly the biggest natural bandwagon we've ever seen, was born.

-That's how nominations worked, yeah.

-Pretty much all of us had it losing to Kingdom Hearts.

-Nothing natural about it, as we saw with the Melee match. Ceej was terrible about cheating. It was sad how easy it actually was to do.
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LeonhartFour posted...

Anyone from the 08-09 clan who whines about pic sabotage when trash like that was submitted for almost every match can piss off. Worst era of pictures ever, including Ceej's. Half the reason I started smithing was because I knew I could do better.
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http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb8/cb8-124-3.jpg

Funniest part of this pic is I legit wasn't going for a mismatch and it still kind of was. I remember a bunch of people yelling at me over it.

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/gotd/gotd-114-2.jpg

The people who whined about this one are just idiots though.

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/gotd/gotd-115-4.jpg

Still the best picture ever, from our best user ever. I love yoblazer so much.
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KamikazePotato posted...

The notion of no poll freezes is nuts to me. It's already exhausting to pay attention to matches when you only have to do it every 5 minutes.

It should go back to every 15 minutes. 5 is dumb.
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Division 7 Round 1: (2)Mega Man X vs (15)Isabelle

(2)Mega Man X - 24693 [80.65%]
(15)Isabelle - 5923 [19.35%]
Total Votes - 30616
Prediction Percentage - 84.13%

Mega Man X put his hat into the ring for the division title in dominant fashion as division 7's first round came to a close, and it took us back to the 2002 days of the classic Mega Man matches where he beat the absolute piss out Ms. Pac-Man and Serious Sam. TUHDISDAY those are some of our biggest blowouts ever. And though we're well past the days where characters and games regularly break 90% in polls, what Mega Man X did here in this match is about the best one could ask for in modern times.

To put this a different way, Link couldn't break 80% on Ganondorf this year. Yeah.

Also I think this match might be decent evidence against the whole Smash thing, unless Isabelle would be trash enough without it to get 5-10% against Mega Man X here without it, which she could very well be. As for the division, obviously we know what happened now because if we only factor in round one I honestly think Luigi's performance looked the best. 81% on Isabelle or 73% on Geno just doesn't look as good as 77% on Edgeworth to me. But what do I know, I'm just a hindsight 50-50 guy :p
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There was, however, one major silver lining for King Dedede in this match.



328 votes! It beat Garrus/Ramza by almost 100, which is nuts.

Make no mistake here though, Ocelot may have won this match but this was a horrible result. He was supposed to break 60%, and even the oracle people who had sniffed a rat didn't see this coming. Their consensus was 55%. 50.5% is just a total embarrassment, and it required a small miracle with the morning vote, a superhuman effort to not get buried at night, a small reddit rally, and the double votes from registered users to avoid a very embarrassing upset.

There was however a silver lining for Ocelot, which is that he finally came up clutch in an unexpectedly close match. He has a bit of a history choking these away. In 2005 no one thought anything of his match with Pac-Man, and then he chokes out of no where. In 2007, he gets this super close win over Jill Valentine for second place in his round one 4way, and then in round two he gets in this weird battle for second place with Kefka and Marcus Fenix. Ocelot lost that one close too, in a match that never should have been in doubt. Who the hell is Marcus Fenix? Then 2008 happens and Jill Valentine erases Ocelot's one moment. 2010 was probably his worst ever match, because for once he was the one making things close unexpectedly. Pokemon Trainer Red was a massive favorite, and Ocelot made it close by some miracle. But as usual, Ocelot lost.

So for Ocelot to win a close match like this, and set a record in the process, was an exorcism of sorts for the dude. But given his luck, Dedede will get a rematch next time and beat him by 300. We'll see.
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Division 7 Round 1: (7)King Dedede vs (10)Revolver Ocelot

(7)King Dedede - 15157 [49.51%]
(10)Revolver Ocelot - 15457 [50.49%]
Total Votes - 30614
Prediction Percentage - 55.66%

Dedede (2008c) VS Revolver Ocelot (2008c)

Dedede has a strength of 15.97.
Revolver Ocelot has a strength of 22.67.

Revolver Ocelot wins with 64.78% of the vote!

LOL X STATS

Before every contest we get a series of prediction topics where people analyze each match. It's a super fun series of topics and you get some really good users making really good points. But every now and again you get a huge dud, and this match was it. Ocelot had a 100% chance to win, really guys? Have you been paying attention to how loathed Konami is right now? OR how insane Smash hype is right now? Come on bros, there was no way this match was going to follow the stats. I almost picked Dedede and I frankly wish I would have even though he lost. I absolutely love the guy. He's a big, overly friendly but overly competitive dude who wants to eat all the food and always teams up with the hero when needed. He gets into some fights with the hero, but hey! Gotta keep things lively! He also swings around a megaton hammer that explodes for fun, belly flops on people to KO them in Smash, sits on people to KO them in Smash, does the foot-foot-foot-foot-foot air dance, chain grabs people, and this is his main taunt.

https://cdn.gamer-network.net/2018/usgamer/dedede-2.png

What's not to love? Of course he was going to give Ocelot a good fight!

When the match first started, things were even for a few minutes before King Dedede started slowly climbing. And when I say slow, I mean 5-10 votes per update with the occasional Ocelot run. The king's a bit heavy, so it's hard for the guy to climb up. Give him a break, okay? I've been there. Losing weight is tough, but you gotta start somewhere. Down 150 and still dropping, son.

Ahem.

Dedede was able to peak at 168 early, but Ocelot kept stalling, making cuts, or going on the occasional run to keep Dedede from actually winning the match. It continued like this all throughout the evening, past midnight, and alllllllll night long. The best thing Dedede was able to manage was a 200 vote lead, but Ocelot was able to stall that one out too. We finally got an answer to how this match would go as the morning vote started trickling in. Around 4 am, Ocelot finally started taking the match over. By 5:30 we were tied, and from there it was all about who would win the morning vote.

One would assume the Nintendo character would take the morning vote, but not today my friends. Remember that slow climb Dedede made at the beginning of the match? Ocelot started doing that in the morning, and after spending all morning fighting with Dedede with the match in the 100-150 range, noon came and just buried the king. This match never got completely out of control, as you'll see in a second, but Dedede never came close to winning once noon came.
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Division 7 Round 1: (6)GLaDOS vs (11)Mewtwo

(6)GLaDOS - 11484 [37.52%]
(11)Mewtwo - 19123 [62.48%]
Total Votes - 30607
Prediction Percentage - 59.09%

There are people pointing to this match as evidence of Mewtwo's FRAUDULENCE before the Tifa match even happened, but I highly disagree. This is pretty much exactly what Mewtwo was supposed to do against GLaDOS -- a boring 63-37 type of beatdown that gets chalked up into the ether of forgotten round one matches. Given he was only an 11 seed, only had 59% of people behind him, and is finally back in Smash Bros without DLC, I find this blowout fairly impressive. It's right in line with with the LOL x stats from 2010 and 2013.

As for GLaDOS, this is the best possible outcome for rallybait characters. You can catch and bandwagon and maybe win a contest, but after that your best hope is getting a middling seed and retaining a fraction of strength. GLaDOS and L-Block are the best examples we have of a life after rallybait (I know Portal never won anything, but it took over the internet in 2007 in the same way Undertale did in 2015). Some strength, maybe a win or two, and it's all good. What's happened to Draven is pretty much the exact opposite of what a rallybait character could hope for. We'll probably see GLaDOS and L-Block every year. I'll be shocked if we see Draven again.
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NowItsAngeTime posted...

Geno has gotten stuck to being a Spirit / Avatar in Smash Ultimate but I guess it's better than nothing

I'm holding out hope on him.
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Division 7 Round 1: (3)Tifa Lockheart vs (14)Geno

(3)Tifa - 22399 [73.19%]
(14)Geno - 8205 [26.81%]
Total Votes - 30604
Prediction Percentage - 79.95%

As Final Fantasy 7 has continued to slowly erode over the years, a few things have kept it from complete and total collapse. One is Cloud appearing in Smash Bros. Another is probably the Dissidia games, even though I loathe them all and think they are absolute filth. I'd rather deal with any parvo diarrhea over ever playing a Dissidia game again. For those not involved in animal nursing, parvovirus destroys a dog's intestinal lining and renders them unable to absorb any nutrients. Without a ton of emergency care, they eventually die from a fatal diarrhea, and this sometimes happens anyway because it's very difficult to get rid of the virus to where the body can regrow the intestines. It's a terrible way to die, but the smell is what's worst. Imagine a bloody, liquid shit death emanating from something that's still alive. That's parvovirus.

And it's still better than the Dissidia games.

The last thing keeping FF7 afloat is Tifa, who is in the same boat as Vivi. No matter how far Square falls, she still has a "magic" to her that makes it very difficult to anti-vote or hate her. Her contest strength has held well over the years, and it really showed in this match. Geno is a beloved character from a beloved game, and people have been pining for him to get into Smash for well over 10 years.

Tifa gave no fucks and just annihilated him. Think she cares he's never won a match? Bitch please. Meteor Strike right upside that doll's head. A good comparison for this match is the Squall/Geno match from 2005 where Squall got 75% on him. For Geno to ever win a match, he needs a Smash appearance. This is plain as day at this point. As for Tifa, this match was about prepping for the Mewtwo scrape. Her fans weren't necessarily worried about division titles yet, because this division was stacked. Her, Luigi, Mewtwo, and Mega Man X were all packed in here and they all had a good case behind them. She definitely got off on the right foot though, that's for sure.
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That sounds like half of a video game bro.
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Nanis23 posted...

who even cares about GameFAQs now

This is more true than you know. More on that later.
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I forgot to mention but that Brawl/Melee match was 12 hours and we've seen that the Melee fans are insane. They 100% would have rallied.

That's why 12 hour matches are garbage, but we got the win back so who cares.

transience posted...

yeah, majora might have the biggest turnaround in contest history. I really wonder how legit it is, though, since it nearly lost to super metroid.

I think the easy explanation is Nintendo not SFFing itself as easily across consoles. LTTP murdering Super Metroid makes sense. Majora's Mask not murdering Super Metroid and not getting murdered by LTTP also makes sense.
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

Ulti_PCA posted...

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

I dunno, I think Brawl/4 would be a really close match with an awful lot of apathy on both sides. I might take Ultimate over Melee if we have a game contest next year

Me too bro, and it would 100% be the correct result. Smash Ultimate is so insanely good. It's like an ode to video games.

By the way how hard did you freak out over MMX5's Hunter x Hunter theme being in the game?

I don't own a switch, but that is a fantastic track

Get one.

I am a jaded asshole and even I am telling you, it's absolutely incredible.
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Alright I need a break.
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

I dunno, I think Brawl/4 would be a really close match with an awful lot of apathy on both sides. I might take Ultimate over Melee if we have a game contest next year

Me too bro, and it would 100% be the correct result. Smash Ultimate is so insanely good. It's like an ode to video games.

By the way how hard did you freak out over MMX5's Hunter x Hunter theme being in the game?
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Melee lost one battle but won the war. Easily. It is now viewed as being better than Brawl by every community, not just casuals high on a recent game in a big series. There is absolutely zero chance Melee would ever lose to Brawl or Sm4sh. Ever. Not that we'll ever know, because Brawl is too trashy to even make it into brackets anymore while Melee was out there going 50-50 against a mega-rally. Brawl would have never pulled that Undertale semifinal off, let alone even make it past Chrono Trigger to get to that match in the first place. All that plus the Smash preference poll really cemented home just how hard people prefer Melee, which is fine by me and something I knew all along. One contest match means positively dick compared to the entire history in context, which puts Melee ahead rather easily.

Ultimate is the best game in that series by a damn mile though and it's no contest. There is nothing in that game for anyone of any play style to complain about. It has every character, every stage, every item, every song, every everything, a great single player, great newcomers, and a balanced version of Melee's physics. Anyone who thinks Melee is better than that game is just an idiot. There is just no comparison between Melee and Ultimate.

I dump on Nintendo whenever they fuck up, but they won me back pretty hard with Ultimate and the Switch. Both are just fabulous ideas, and rendering Melee obsolete to even the most hardcore Smash fans is no easy feat.
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transience posted...

35.



This is the least close 51/49 result in the history of polling. This match was ridiculous, a rally battle between two outside factions that went so far out of the normal bounds of a contest match that it just felt like gamefaqs was the battleground and we were more witnesses than participants. Because of that, I'm not sure how much relevance it truly has.

But that's not talking down the match - it was pretty wild. Undertale came out with the lead, Smash rallied to take it back after several hours and Undertake just swatted it away like a fly. The larger Undertale audience was just much bigger than the Smash audience, which sounds crazy but Smash was largely the competitive Smash community and Undertale was the entire internet. That game has an internet presence that's really unbelievable. This could have been pushed to 60/40 if they wanted, but they basically just took the lead when they wanted and then just let it sit. Smash could never generate that kind of output so it ended up looking a lot closer than it really was.

Smash was the only chance we had at beating the Undertale machine and it wasn't even close to enough. The final here was incidental - nobody actually thought Ocarina had a chance.

30 spots too low.
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Division 7 Round 1: (4)Nathan Drake vs (13)Miles "Tails" Prower

(4)Nathan Drake - 12514 [43.27%]
(13)Tails - 16405 [56.73%]
Total Votes - 28919
Prediction Percentage - 33.15%

Only CAPTAIN TOAD had a lower round one prediction percentage than this one, and it did my childhood and my fanboyism a world of good to be on the right side of Tails' path this year. yoblazer made a fantastic topic about best feels-good calls this contest, and my #1 is Tails. I'll get more into his actual path and why it meant so much to me in round two, so for now let's just focus on this one match.

80% of the board and almost 70% of the brackets picked Nathan Drake to win this match, but I knew. I just knew. Well I didn't "know" per se, because this was a pure fanboy pick that I could not pass up. I was always pissed I didn't take Tails > Viewtiful Joe back in the day, and I vowed to pick the little guy again if I ever got the chance to pull an upset.

How long did I wait?

https://tenor.com/view/till-this-day-deontay-wilder-to-this-day-gif-13032806

I could not pass it up. Nathan Drake was the perfect opponent for Tails to get some redemption. The guy got less than 7% in a poll and lost to CATS in his contest debut. Then he got a 2 seed and became the first 2 seed ever to lose to a 15. His one win was in 2013 against Pac-Man by 700 votes, and I have my doubts Drake could win that match if it was a 1v1. That was it, Drake's entire history leading up to this match. Why he continues to get these high seeds and all this bracket backing, I will never understand. Nathan Drake is on par with GTA and Call of Duty, only he actually keeps making contests to embarrass himself in while a lot of other casualbait knew when to quit. Not that Tails's history was all that much better, but his round 1 losses were generally to more respectable opponents.

And for pete's sake, the guy has never lost to CATS. When the match started and Tails just boat raced this clown, I could not have been happier. I didn't get a whole lot of debated stuff right this contest, but I can always look at this match plus the one after and just smile. You finally did it little man, and with my lucky #13 to boot.

It might be time to retire Nathan Drake, by the way. If he keeps getting in I'm sure this won't be the last of his embarrassing losses. If he does get in again, I would put him 1v1 with CATS for hilarity's sake.
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_Dog_ posted...

Ulti_PCA posted...

The entire Xbox line of consoles is a complete joke and was never destined to have any good exclusives.

If you were referring to the Xbox One you would have a point, but the original Xbox and the 360 had a lot of exclusive games. It took you over 15 years to end up being right.

You vastly underestimate my level of patience and stubbornness. I'll wait a lifetime if it means being right.
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No one plays Dota 1 anymore and I cannot recommend 2 in good faith.
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Ytterbicide posted...

Ulti_PCA posted...

Night Stalker

This is the only char in that list i don't have passing knowledge of. Who's this and is their game worth playing?

Balanar, the Night Stalker, from Dota 1.

Imagine this guy: http://www.statemaster.com/wikimir/images/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3c/Warcraft_Dreadlord.jpg/250px-Warcraft_Dreadlord.jpg

With this guy's voice lines:


Then you turn the map black and start fucking shit up.

"Vanquish the weak.

This one... is MINE."
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Division 7 Round 1: (5)Master Chief vs (12)Goro Majima

(5)Master Chief - 19954 [69%]
(12)Goro Majima - 8963 [31%]
Total Votes - 28917
Prediction Percentage - 87.74%

Master Chief and his games are so loathed by our site's user base that people take every possible opportunity they can to anti vote the crap out of him. I actually like the dude and think he's badass as fuck, but I can understand this site not liking him. The entire Xbox line of consoles is a complete joke and was never destined to have any good exclusives. Ever. I said this before the very first system came out and it was obvious to anyone with a brain. Microsoft is making it. Any good game will end up on PC anyway, and lo and behold. Proven right again. I don't find it fair that Master Chief has to pay for Microsoft's sins, but what can you do. The Xbox has one of the worst fanbases in gaming, too, and they've proved it in spades in 2018. Those idiots were all over twitter spoiling PS4 games intentionally because they were butthurt over the Xbox having no good exclusives, as if everyone else didn't tell them ages ago that there would never be good exclusives. With Tales of Vesperia now officially coming to Playstation, there is absolutely zero reason to own any Xbox system. I knew it was coming, too. Just needed a little patience, Guns N Roses style.

The best part about these losers, none of which are actually on GameFAQs, is how they sit around pretending they're all alpha and hard all day, even though they sit online arguing about video games 24/7 and treat consoles like their own children, largely because women are very intelligent and know not to have children with trashy human beings. Trust me, "bros", whenever you try telling us how cool you are we all picture you as the road rage marine and laugh at you. Because as all normal people know, you deal with bullies by laughing at them. It drives you all insane and we love it, and now with everyone having a supercomputer in their pockets you can't even retaliate physically anymore. Fuck off and go pretend the Xbox is good. Loser.

I bring this all up because Master Chief, who has all that baggage to carry around and all those hurdles to jump over any time he's in a match, got 69% on someone and wasn't even anti voted in the slightest. He had no trend whatsoever in this match. Multi-way matches aside (a guy like this will naturally overperform in that format), have people already forgotten this dude's history? He almost lost to a guy named Felix in his debut. He lost to Frog by 7 votes in a match that by all accounts he should have won. CATS broke 31% on him and he needed an insane 2000 vote comeback to beat Donkey Kong, of all people. He lost to Sub-Zero as a 2 seed. Then after fourways happened and threw everyone off the scent, he let something named Spy get 40% on him before losing to Ryu Hayabusa.

And this guy -- this guy -- gets 69% in a contest match. I like the dude come on man. Can we all have a gentleman's agreement to never nominate a Yazuka character ever again? These guys are the definition of megatrash.
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Division 7 Round 1: (8)Frog vs (9)Monokuma

(8)Frog - 22084 [76.38%]
(9)Monokuma - 6829 [23.62%]
Total Votes - 28913
Prediction Percentage - 77.29%

I have no idea whatsoever what a "danganronpa", a "Happy Havoc", or a "Monokuma" even is. All I know is that thing was given heavy consideration as a rallybait character, and if you haven't noticed it by now the rallybait characters all got completely steamrolled in this contest. This wasn't the worst of it to happen, but letting Frog get 76% on you when you're hyped to catch a rally is pretty bad. Frog is a shell of what he used to be and shouldn't be hitting 76% on anyone under any circumstances.

But who knows, maybe Frog got a random boost from the chemicals in the water that are turning the freaking frogs gay.



'Scuse me. Been waiting ages for that reference.

Remember when Frog used to be good for a great match every contest? Yeah, me too. I got sad looking this up, but the last entertaining match from Frog was eleven years ago. It's true: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2865-division-1-round-1-axel-frog-samus-kerrigan

For whatever reason, it stopped on a dime right then and there. It teaches you to appreciate what you have while you have it, because those windows close really fast. Now we're sitting here watching Frog get 76% on anime panda bears with zipper lips. I get that not every match can be good but sheesh.
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Division 7 Round 1: (1)Luigi vs (16)Miles Edgeworth

(1)Luigi - 22397 [77.47%]
(16)Miles Edgeworth - 6514 [22.53%]
Total Votes - 28911
Prediction Percentage - 89.61%

Somehow I forgot Edgey on my list of edgelord characters that I love list in the Magus/Vincent writeup. I should probably be executed for this oversight given I once asked the New Jersey DMV if "EDGEY" was available as a license plate. True story. I've led a rather oddball life, if you can't tell.

Anyway this match was always going to be a massive blowout, and it got scarier as it went along. Luigi was the type of character who could cause some serious damage in a non-Noble Nine bracket like this, and he had the 1 seed and the pedigree to prove it. Luigi has historically been an ass kicker in round 1, but he does it in a way that makes him look non-threatening, Smash Bros Luigi Taunt style. For those who enjoy lists, look at some of these numbers.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/1310-north-division-round-1-luigi-vs-ratchet
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/1721-hyrule-division-round-1-luigi-vs-pac-man
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2093-chaos-division-round-1-luigi-vs-kos-mos
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2526-blast-division-round-1-luigi-vs-zero
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2879-division-5-round-1-luigi-mudkip-pit-tingle
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3248-division-2-round-1-l-snake-luigi-roxas-sho
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3734-hyrule-division-round-1-luigi-vs-meta-knight
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/4519-east-division-round-1-luigi-vs-waluigi-cecil-vs-golbez
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5164-character-battle-ix-division-3-round-1-luigi-vs-balthier-vs

And then this match here today, which was the first match Luigi ever had as a 1 seed and he delivered. This was Kansas beating Niagra. How Luigi never had a 1 seed until today I don't know, but he has one of the best pedigrees in round 1 of any non Noble Nine character. If you face this dude in the first round, don't even show up. You are done. Sucks for Edgey because I adore the dude, but hey maybe don't appear in bad video games like Ace Attorney Investigations and you stop being 16 seed fodder for green people.

I did get to see Phoenix carry him to a win in Rivalry Rumble, so technically Edgey is off the schnide!
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