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ssb_yunglink2 posted...

He cant see these posts or this board. You back pedaled because you realized the blame isnt just on tails. Its you too.

Yea. Thats true

DDP886 posted...

sounds like a death match (sub) kinda thing, writing manifestos

Yea. That was the thing that came about as a result of me banning those folks.

andel posted...

who the fuck is this dude suggesting major tech company advertising campaigns as a legitimate way for gamefaqs to operate? no one is dumping millions of dollars into gamefaqs advertising, we have always been a niche community and gamefaqs is much harder to monetize than the kinda places that would use that boilerplate tech 'strategy'.

fandom could just not obliterate the loyal community of thousands of daily active users and continue getting traffic via guides like gamefaqs has always done. maybe also bring back contests because there was a time that those drove tons of traffic to the front page

I reckon that the current userbase is not large or profitable enough to sustain the hand that feeds it.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

very interesting edit.

I originally said someones name whose name I dont want to say cuz then hell start stalking me and going all crazy

DoesntMatter posted...

you typed up a paragraphs long primer on how to contact admins in order for people to whine to them about "unfair" moderations. you absolutely created that subreddit to give people who are habitually incapable of following the ToU a way to harass the admins of this site.

uh yea? I guess I see that argument.

Wish they had used the feedback form in good faith. It exists for that reason. Its not secret. Fandom wants you to use it.

Luigi_and_Tails posted...

Ha, there's a name I haven't seen for many years. Yep, I had LUE access but at some point I was user level -3 (account pending closure). Obviously I chickened out of closing my account. However at that time I lost LUE access.

As my theme in this topic seems to be, hope you're keeping as well matey. We've seen a lot on this site.

Hey man, you want me to get the hell out of this topic (please say yes) so you can have it back?

Cuz if you say yes Im going to respect it. Then I have the reason i need to not respond.

hockeybabe89 posted...

What are you personally gaining by Fandom making money?

The site continuing to exist

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

This dude is legitimately like this tho

Like for other people, i think theyd have already been written off. But he is actually legit with the way he thinks, which is absurd and honestly deserves to be dunked on by the entire board.

I actually appreciate this.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Ridiculous. All of this is ridiculous.

so yeah i created a safe haven for the worst users CE has ever seen,

Not why I created it

but I just ignored them, I didnt actually support them is a horrible defense of what you did.

Okay sure. Ill give you that. We found equal ground here.

Youre calling me lazy? This half-assed defense of your own actions is lazy.

It was lazy until just now. You finally found a reason as to why you should hate me instead of just hating those other guys and just treating it like a hive mind of group think.

Social boards get shut down? You wanted it.

Yea. I guess so. I wanted Fandom to convert things like the sex board into a real board. I dont think users should be able to have their own community boards, nor should boards be without topicality yet.

Maybe in the future with a new userbase, but the topicality keeps the gatekeep mentality from forming.

All the boards get shut down? You wanted it.

No.

Anyone who has their device ruined because they didn't have the good sense to use a adblocker? You wanted it ("Fandom has to make money somehow").

No.

And when this site gets stripped to it bare essentials and gets turned into a tax write-off?

Unfortunate, but honestly Id be of the belief that at least they tried, the old regime brought this upon itself

Don't complain, because it's what you asked for.

Yea. Sure.

Umbreon posted...

So what's your plan for actually getting fresh blood on an ad riddled site?

1. Mobile App
2. Partnershio with game devs to provide promo codes & beta tests in exchange for pre-registration/installs
3. Social Media Integration, and game streaming
4. Influencer Marketing
5. Exclusive Video Guides
6. Ad Campaigns Paid User Aquisition
7. Retention via push notifications and membership rewards program
8. Paid Extroverted Community Managers

Among other things.

Example of bullet point 2:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/ff7b88c1.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6bf336df.jpg

You're tolerable when you're not talking about your obsession.

Problem is, that's pretty much all you do talk about these days.

Thars true. All I talk about is how a certain type of user is keeping GameFaqs from growing and succeeding. Thats very true. But like. Why are we suddenly pretending that this isnt all I talk about, and Im sudden acting under some gimmick.

That's if you aren't trying to pick fights with people who aren't interested in fighting you just because you happen to be bored.

And then you come in acting like you're just one of the boys. Acting like you like and respect the same people who you called things I can't say here.

How would you prefer I act? Like a troll? Also Im not just going to assume the people Im talking too are the same type of people I rage about why would I do that? Why wouldnt I give people the benefit of the doubt?

You don't get to praise the destruction of this site and get to pal around the users of this site. That's not how this works.

I dont think the sites being destroyed. I believe the opposite. As Ive been preaching for the past three years.

Don't want to keep derailing this topic so I'll end with this.

Its already derailed. I responded to the derailing comments instead of ignoring them like I usually dobecause you were the one who made the comment. Not going to ignore my friends. Ill ignore everyone else. Just like I have been mostly.

Every bad thing Fandom does? Has your seal of approval on it.

I dont think they are bad. Theyre doing pretty much everything Ive been suggesting for years.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Lmao you cannot be fucking serious

You regularly interacted with these people knowing what they were like. You enabled and contributed to that horrible place, and do not fucking act like youre above them. Youre one of them.

They interacted with me, would be a more accurate statement. Anytime they preached Trump or said something transphobic or bigoted I denounced them.

Should I have actually attempted to moderate that Reddit from the get go and curve that stuff before it got out of hand you betcha.

But I didnt have a crystal ball and I dont currently have a Time Machine. I didnt care enough to keep up with their drama, or CEs drama. I just did my own thing.

They were over their preaching conservative voices and raging against the woke boogeyman or whatever they called, and I was somewhere else talking about user aquisition strategy, and user age demographics.

Two completely separate things. Did I enable them through my apathyyea sure. Ill own that. Do I believe in any of the nonsense they preach nope.

Go ahead and criticize me, but do it on my own merit. Based on the things I say, and I preach. Im not part of some Reddit hive mind

Heineken14 posted...

People bring those things up because you are both talking down to others in that you super duper totally care about gamefaqs while they do not and also....

Having a different opinion, even one as unpopular as mine isnt talking down too you can engage and Ill discuss. I enjoy talking about these things.

that very obvious insult to everyone's intelligence that everyone doesn't know your history.

I have a history of being a corporate shill going back to 2021. Its almost my entire GameFaqs identity.

Thats my history. Ive been preaching for modernization, and atttacting new users, appealing to a more normie audience as oppose to one thats entrenched in online culture.

Thats me. This whole Fanom reform, corporate salad stuff Ive been preaching that for years. Thats totally what Im about. Improving the platform, atttacting new people, and making the site profitable again.

That is my history. You can hate it, and if disagree with Fandoms changes, then you should hate. But I mean, i didnt suddenly create this persons to troll yall. This is quite literally my thing always has been.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

You like this place SO MUCH that you created a nice reddit space for the worst, most vile banned members this board has ever seen to hangout and coordinate in. You also regularly interacted with these people knowing exactly what they are.

Gold star for that wonderful contribution to us all.

I made it for myself. Partly so I could have a place to discuss meta topics like best business practices.

The folks you are refer to used it for own devices that I didnt support nor have anything to do with their nonsense. So much so I actually banned them for it, and they went and made their own terrible thing.

Error1355 posted...

STERO, this topic isn't about you.

You know error you default to this line a lot. But the reality is, Im discussing the topic at hand. I gave TC a thoughtful reply.

Other people decided to derail the topic by switching the discussion to be about me instead. This has actually happened quite alot lately, and I usually ignore it and just continue to stay on topic.

Part of the reason I do, is because I know as soon as I actually reply to someone whos attempting to derail that conversation by bringing up personal things about me that have nothing at all to do with the discussion at hand

that youre going to jump at the chance to reply in this manner. Well done

https://youtu.be/a9NIZOvfKpc?si=hwhJ4awsrI69-DCT

GranAures posted...

then gave that subreddit over to people who have been regularly banned that he helped egg on

There are false statements in this message. I think you know that too.

Axiom posted...

Yeah you need something better to do with your life. Gamefaqs is not that important

You use it. You like this place.

I also like the place. So I use it.

We all have our own topics of interest. Thats part of why I love GameFaqs. It allows you many different avenues to talk about lots of different topics.

DoesntMatter posted...

why the fuck are you talking about user acquisition strategy on the sex board?

Because it directly relates to the type of user that GameFaqs would have to target, and the type of user they would need to distance themselves fromand that leads into the type of discussion Im most known for.

One in which I have to be careful when talking about due to recent rule changes, and the removal of the sex board.

Umbreon posted...

I've never seen you talk about the growth of the site

I talk about it all the time. There are damn near 500 topics on the old sex board where I just preach user aquisition strategy.

Because "user retention", in your mind, doesn't involve this board at all.

That is very true, as are most of the other things youve said. But Im still here to have genuine conversations. If you engage me, you get real answers.

I enjoy talking about business and marketing stuff. User aquisition, growing communities, retaining users these are things I do in real life, so of course Im going to care.

You can call that an odd hobby if you like, and many people have

The only person you fool is yourself.

I fooled myself into thinking that you legitimately enjoyed our genuine conversations over the years.

Fool the heck out of myself

Sufferedphoenix posted...

It's usually not a good thing. There have been exactly 2 other users I cam do that with only one of which I'm cool with. The other was zues on the potd board.

It mean's that I'm consistent in my beliefs and points. Not just trolling like so many people accuse me of. So it's a compliment to my genuineness -- whether or not people view that as a good or bad thing. At least they know I'm not "faking it"

Drrobotniks posted...

It is genuinely vile and revolting how you act,

This is how I've acted for the past three years. Its not like I've suddenly adapted this "fandom shill" persono for the purpose of trolling. I've always been a "corporate shill" -- this is the stuff I've been preaching since before Fandom even owned the site.

Hate it all you want, but don't ignore reality and pretend like this isn't how I've always been. I'm not disingenuous. I believe the things I say. If I was disengenous I would have changed my positions at some point. But you can find topics of me going over User Acquisition techniques, and GameFaqs Demographics stats as relate to user growth as far back as the summer of 2021 over on the Hellhole board.

If you hate my views, and me as a person for believing them then like just call me "disgusting" or something. If they actually disgust you then that wouldn't even be trolling. But calling me "disingenuous" is ironically enough actually disingenuous of you given my history of dying on this hill.

Umbreon posted...

At this point I don't think it's a gimmick, he's just genuinely that way.

I've been preaching all of this for the past three years. You know that more than anyone, because the Sex board was a good source of my rants. My whole gimmick is has been to criticize the old GameFaqs regime's user aquisition, retention, and growth strategy. Like its literally all I talk about.

How the site needs to be modernized, with a mobile app. Financial viability involves social media integration, influencer marketing, developer tools for game companies. The current core userbase is too influential, and eats alive any new (younger/normie) user that happens to stumble across the place, therefoer before any ad spend can be allocated for UA campaigns things like the "current events" board needs to be quaratined, or at the very least highly moderated, so as to keep the vibe from flowing into the game boards.

Like, it just made sense to me. I figured eventually whomever owned the place would try to either monetize it, or just sell it off. RV sold it, and now Fandom is going to try and monetize. All the things I've been preaching since 2021 are finally coming to fruition.

I'm like a kid in a candy shop.

Completely agree with the rest of your post though. Blocking him is best. He doesn't show up for genuine conversation.

@Umbreon You know that's false. We've been having genuine conversation for almost three years now. Just because we don't see eye-to-eye or I rarely if ever switch my position doesn't make it any less genuine. Like do you honetsly believe all those hours I've spent talking to you, and the walls of text I've sent you over the course of our debate were just done for the purpose of trolling you?

That hurts my feelings. Legitimately.

TMOG posted...

Is Stero the same guy who went to a Cheech & Chong NFT party because he was convinced they'd actually be there, but then it turned out they just sent over a video instead like the entire topic told him was going to happen, and the whole party was just a bunch of crypto bros trying to scam each other around some weed?

To be fair I went to another on in LA a month later and they were there, and I got to meet both of them, while my friend smoked with them on a couch. The entire thing was a giant warehouse rave, with an open bar that also gave away capri suns and pop tarts. Was freaking awesome!

hockeybabe89 posted...

If we aren't going to be part of the plans, then this is like telling a fired worker to be excited about the new changes coming to the business. Why would they give a shit whether or not the company survives?

I guess thats a good point

hockeybabe89 posted...

Not a single one of us gives a fuck about the profitability of Fandom's investments

I know, I just dont understand why not. If the site isnt profitable then the site dies. Its just common sense.

There are only a few choices here:

• Fandom modernizes the site and successfully attracts a newer and more younger userbase
• Fandom closes down the site because its unprofitable

The option of just leaving the site as is to slowly but surely wither away just doesnt exist. Its not an option.

I understand being anti-corporate. But I just dont understand wanting to be so anti-corporate that youd actually wish for this platforms demise. I mean, I love this place and I assume all of you do as well which is why Im behind the first bullet point and not the second one

hockeybabe89 posted...

Ok, so that was maybe too much, but you still ignored the rest of my post and only quoted this. Explain why we should care about Fandom alienating a userbase to turn the website into something else completely. GameFAQs isn't a loved one. It's not going to warm our heart that the site may succeed whether or not we are involved in its life.

I guess nostalgia for what this place felt like with a 100 thousand people on it. Matches not the format or boards that we have fond memories of. But the community that use to be here?

This place is headed to an early grace if it doesnt attract more people. That we know. So I guess Im off belief we should be willing to work with the changes for the possibility that the platform can attract new uses, or possibly even reengage the older ones that have long left this place behind

hockeybabe89 posted...

And maybe the person who is friends with a bunch of unhinged lunatics that think they are personally responsible for destroying the website should not be making it.

This has nothing to do with the conversation, but Ill reply to it anyhow. You of all people know Im not friends w/ the group you are referring too.

Luigi_and_Tails posted...

Rant over.

Look man, I feel your frustration for watching a familiar place youve loved and enjoyed for so long change course and become a little less familiar. But this change is in an attempt to appeal to new (more modern) users change to something that has gone unchanged for so long can be scary.

But part of loving and respecting a platform that has provided you with constant years of joy is wanting it to succeed and thrive, and wanting younger generations to also experience the benefits of such an awesome website like GaneFaqs.

In short, I think we should want to see the site live on, even tho we may have finally outgrown it. But removing content isnt going to help that. If Fandom can attract new users to keep the site afloat, those are going to be users that arent going to have the benefits of enjoying your guides.

Ultimately, its just one less thing to keep them here, and ultimately less content hurts the platform and makes it harder for fandom to dig GameFaqs out of the grave that we all ultimately are responsible for digging by refusing to evolve with the times and push for modernization.

I guess you need to ask yourself a question:
Would I rather GameFaqs suceed or fail after Im gone?

LonelyStoner posted...

Well yeah. Most millennials in SF live with 2-3 roommates in an ok sized apartment.

I pay 2,800 for a studio

Its below my cities median wage. It goes quick too. Living in SF that lasts about 6-8 months

Jim Cornette at least until Vince Russo goes first

No thoughts on the beta and pre-reg options?

Revelation34 posted...

Would be well deserved in this case.

Just clarifying. You were agreeing with me that if someone suggested fandom just leave ganefaqs alone to bleed money without making any attempt to monetize it that such a person would deservedly lose their positions within the company due to the professional negligence associated with causing your employer to lose money?

Because I feel as if you didnt mean to agree with that statement, but technically thats what you did via the quoted reply

It can be used for Beta Tests too:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a138d408.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/92646f8c.jpg

I would launch a mobile button, add these buttons to game pages, and then start brokering partnerships with developers to get them active

Standard Game Page
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ee87132b.jpg

With Pre-Registration Buttonhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/ff7b88c1.jpg

Button changes to this immediately following the games launch:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6bf336df.jpg

Sufferedphoenix posted...

Is it bad I read this without initially looking at the username and knew who it was?

I will take that as a compliment.

Usually

GateOfDoom posted...

How unusual is this?

Very unusual.

voldothegr8 posted...

I don't know what's more pathetic, the comment itself or this insanity defending it.

Do you mind explaining which part of it you find to be insanity?

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


I just dont understand how people are missing this whole thing. Like. Im sure everyone has had a job at some point or another. I don get the disconnect here.

Well I mean, DToast is just an employee. Im not sure why people cant seem to grasp this. Its almost para social in a way.

Meaning, folks want something to yell and scream at something so badly that they keep on giving executive traits to DToast that he doesnt even have.

Its all really just being done so that disgruntled users have a collective outlet by which to direct their rage at.

But in reality its like screaming at the Starbucks Barista because the company took away Pumpkin Spice Lattes.

In that regard, I could understand DToast not wanting a bunch of users that fall under his management to go on and be insulting his employer. It just looks really bad, and the blowback (whatever that might be) may actually end up unjustifiably falling onto him.

I mean quite obviously its not his fault that a bunch of users are being very vocal in their displeasure of Fandom, but at the same time it is a very logical assumption that his higher ups are eventually going to ask him please get you all to stop.

but DToast still isnt going to have the executive power to give into the users demands so it probably isnt going to stop, and that really is too bad.

Ultimately by making tons of topics that are basically just saying

[insert explicit language here] Fandom

youre just making a normal dudes life potentially miserable. Its not cool.

Its better to give legitimate constructive criticism/feedback. Voice your complaints, but in a way that doesnt get DToast pulling his hair in frustration.

Umbreon posted...

No, you're just an obsessed dude who thinks it's possible to bring Gamefaqs back to its glory days. With literal Fandom.

When they close down the fourms together, and they will, perhaps then you'll understand that what you've wanted all along is a time machine.

If that happens Ill buy you a beer

Umbreon posted...

On a board about sexuality, you almost exclusively talked about incels.

Well I talked about how harmful they are to growing and maintaining a thriving community. It does appear as if Fandom agrees given some of the recent rule changes that should in theory make it harder (if not downright impossible) for that type of ideology to thrive.

So I was on to something!

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

I dont think hes delusional. I dont think he honestly believes the shit hes been spewing regarding the fandom stuff.

Its true, I do believe the things I say.

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Correct. So they are faced with the dilemma to either

1. Try and repurpose the boards so they can be good user aquisition tools
2. Shut them down because they are a liability

I dont understand why anyone would rather they choose option number two

KajeI posted...

Now that's an interesting deletion.

This topic has taken a turn. Rather than discuss the topic at hand, folks want to derail the discussion to make it about the individual users whom are providing commentary that they disagree with.

There is no point in pouring any gasoline on those flames. When that stuff happens its fine to just recognize the discussion has broken down and exit had topic.

Thus the deletion, and now my exit.

Cheers yall.

DoesntMatter posted...

well if you don't want to put words in my mouth then you, uh, shouldn't put words in my mouth.

I really tried not to. That second portion is my opinion.

DoesntMatter posted...

no, it's not a spin, it's what literally happened

I dont believe it is. Under that pretense anyone who is employed by a company has doxxed themselves and therefore

I dont know how to finish that because I dont want to put words in your mouth or attempt insinuate something you didnt mean to say.

But DToast is definitely not to blame for people stalking and harassing him. People in general shouldnt have to worry about that, no less a paid employee of the company.

If the environment is cultivating this sort of behavior then steps should be taken to correct that

agesboy posted...

i can't even be mad at him as an individual because of how obviously corporate this whole shit is

i would absolutely not risk my job by objecting if my boss told me to shut down some political stuff on a gaming website. especially if it was some place i didn't really care about to begin with, and some reddit weirdos are sending me death threats over it!

the real asshole in this scenario is gonna go unnamed and unpunished because it's Good For The Company

Thats actually a much more realistic take on the situation

agesboy posted...

someone who had the power to change things should have made the feedback topic. the feedback topic is useless if the feedback goes to someone who can't enact change

No it isnt. This is how all corporations work.

DToast job is to take notes, monitor stats, make reports, present findings, then make suggestions to his managers on steps to take to make something profitable and then perhaps he gets allocated the resources to do so.

But hes not the decision maker. You cant expect the executives of a multi-million dollar organization to be chatting with CEmenits unrealistic