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TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 11:32:28 AM
#469
Yes. Lol

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 11:29:36 AM
#467
Corrik7 posted...
My stance remains unchanged if I am the third person or not. That said, the best way to throw them off your trail is to make them think it isn't you.

If me and wallz were mindmelding wink wink here and he is letting me rampage against him to make you think I am not doctor, then would that be so bad either?

A lot of times playing your role correctly could be by making scum think you are something you are not.
Ok. Fair. So instead of 4 players it could be there are 5. Small changes to the percentages listed.

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 11:28:21 AM
#466
wallmasterz posted...
Peaf why did you not account for a doctor here?

Peace___Frog posted...
It is logical. But I'm asking that you open your heart to the possibility that that is not necessarily the case.


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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 11:22:53 AM
#463
You want wallz to tell you that you visited red?

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 11:21:41 AM
#461
Put it this way. If corrik knew it was him he wouldn't be pushing.

If two of ctes/chris/ulti/marth are scum, then they now have a 50% chance of hitting power that visited red (assuming you were correct that that person is town). You giving the info would increase it to 100%, but maybe give you an extra day to live if scum thinks it's more important to kill that other person.

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 11:19:11 AM
#458
Peaf, Ulti, ctes, Corrik, Chris, Marth. Those are the only 6 it could even be given the claims. And it isn't me because i was blocked. Assuming it wasn't corrik, that narrows down to 4.

I honestly don't mind if you keep it to yourself, but if scum is in that list then they can probably deduce enough as is right now.

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 11:04:22 AM
#453
wallmasterz posted...
I believe this game has a doctor, it is logical to assume the doctor visited red
It is logical. But I'm asking that you open your heart to the possibility that that is not necessarily the case.

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 11:03:15 AM
#451
wallmasterz posted...
I think scum would be far more likely to target town power than to kill me in hopes of setting up a wifom situation that might just flop. I doubt my death would really move death or mzero off peoples radars, but point taken
Tbf scum could also be worried about what your other powers are. Mzero is only strong if other town powers have results that are helpful. Dumey isn't that strong. Neither is death. Neither am i.

You are the strongest claimed role and most likely to die tonight, given the current state of events. We know that scum has a rb, so if they want you dead all they have to do is rb death to keep him out of their way.

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 10:58:18 AM
#441
@Sheep007 @Kirby321 new topic soon pls?

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 10:57:46 AM
#439
You have it in that quote, Corrik.

MZero claimed before he even knew I watched red

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 10:54:28 AM
#433
By the way, i said that thing about the tunneling about myself. Not you.

Just thinking back to what Dumey said about me... Town cop Death said the same thing in xenoblade when he was my target of attention, and when i outed him and he revealed that his action against scumbell failed, everyone jumped onto sbell immediately because that's a scummy thing to be Untargetable.

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TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 10:50:37 AM
#425
Wallz, I'm not saying this to get you to go down a crazy rabbit hole or anything.

But as someone who is apparently known for tunneling too hard... please allow space in your head for the circumstance in which that third person is not a doctor. They very well could be, but I would suggest that you don't treat it as a guarantee.

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TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 10:44:42 AM
#420
When i say "possible" it doesn't mean i think they are scum, just that they can be. I was wrong about bct, and was pretty embarrassingly wrong throughout almost all of Mario.

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 10:42:25 AM
#418
Player List

1) Peace___Frog - please do not lynch today
2) UltimaterializerX - possible scum. Please do not lynch today
3) htaeD - possible scum. Please do not lynch today or tomorrow
4) MZero - possible scum. Please do not lynch today or tomorrow
5) Corrik7 - possible scum. Please do not lynch today
6) wallmasterz - very unlikely scum. Please do not ever lynch
7) ctesjbuvf - possible scum. Please do not lynch today
8) Obellisk - unlikely scum. Please do not lynch today or tomorrow
9) EDumey - unlikely scum. Please do not lynch today or tomorrow. If he makes it to endgame then he is on the table, however.
10) TheSultanOfSlam - possible scum but I think he is town. Please do not lynch today or tomorrow
11) SirChris - possible scum. Please do not lynch today
12) Lopen - please lynch today
13) UnderUrMattress - unlikely scum. Please do not lynch today or tomorrow, but if he makes it to endgame and there is no gf flipped you cannot in full confidence say he is 100% town.

Is that acceptable to you?

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 10:36:54 AM
#412
There's too many unknowns to declare with certainty how things will go after today, ctes.

That said, I fundamentally disagree with marth's suggestion for a mass claim. I think that comes from gleeful scum.

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 10:28:21 AM
#403
I don't know if i necessarily agree. With cop dead that only way he could get wrecked is if his target is lynched, or they kill them.

Scum wouldn't be inclined to kill a town ulti that is not a danger to them. Norv would they kill their own.

And ulti's name has been bounced around but not really under any pressure. If lopen flips scum then i don't think it totally clears Ulti. Just a point in his favor to be weighed.

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 10:23:05 AM
#398
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Also no one thinks Mzero is lying here??? Kinda easy to fake right?
It's possible. It's also irrelevant to lopen/dumey which is why I'm not harping on it.

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 10:05:15 AM
#392
Sorry, Sultan.

Death - bg to red n1
Wallz - ??? With one use watch on red n1
Dumey - day targeting neighborizer, on lopen but unsuccessful
Lopen - hider to ulti n1
Peaf - ??? But rb'd n1
Mzero - gravedigger on red n1, got that marth is innocent
Sultan successfully aimed a gun but didn't fire n1

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 10:01:49 AM
#384
Obellisk posted...
Wallz claims to have seen Death and MZero visit Red but no one else?
And at least 1 other person.

It's possible that they didn't strongman and that there is a different reason that red died.

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 9:57:44 AM
#379
Yeah, thought you might

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 9:56:25 AM
#377
Oh and sbell claimed Miller

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 9:55:26 AM
#375
Obellisk posted...
So i'm gonna be that guy, and hopefully you guys just accept it and help me out.

Can i get an updated list of claims and actions because it would appear that almost everyone has claimed and they are all power. Just a lot going on, ya know.
Death - bg to red n1
Wallz - ??? With one use watch on red n1
Dumey - day targeting neighborizer, on lopen but unsuccessful
Lopen - hider to ulti n1
Peaf - ??? But rb'd n1
Mzero - gravedigger on red n1, got that marth is innocent

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 9:53:04 AM
#371
ctesjbuvf posted...
I think it looks desperate because you're suggesting there are three roles that punishes cop (scum untargetable, gf and miller) in a game where cop already needs to hammer to even get his powers.
I hadn't even considered this. You're right, cop is pretty hosed in this setup. Plus scum rb and presumably nonconditional strongman if we believe death.

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 9:47:41 AM
#367
Anyway. I'm not going to be surprised if there are some unusual role assignments in this game.

If lopen flips town then it will be very confusing and I'll have to charge sheep for a day of pto while i recover.

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 9:45:20 AM
#362
Oh and wallz elaborated that it was a one time watch. I missed that part too.

Yeah i buy it.

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 9:44:27 AM
#360
ctesjbuvf posted...
I think Dumey put chang and Han in that chat together in that game.
Oh right and he was town at that time.

When it was Dumey and lea, who initiated it? Was that when it came from scum?

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 9:43:32 AM
#358
ctesjbuvf posted...
Then why are do you feel good enough about Marth is scum to consider gf? That seems a bit desperate to me.
I don't understand what you're asking. I don't think it's far fetched to assume there is a gf in a game with a Miller (i believe sbell right now). I'm not going to treat Marth as confirmed town unless we see someone else flip gf. At that point in time and not before, i will believe Marth is town.

But like i said, it's not such that I'm going to derail days where we have real content.

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 9:41:18 AM
#354
htaeD posted...
My memory must be failing me then and its only the stigma that sticks.

That said it is odd in general that Lopen would risk claiming Hider in a game with Sultans power
No there definitely was a game when han was scum neighborizer and got town chang to believe in him completely. Lopen was correct in that game about what had happened but no one believed him.

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 9:39:06 AM
#350
Oh. Interesting. Thanks for clearing that up.

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 9:38:03 AM
#348
ctesjbuvf posted...
Peaf you believe Lopen is scum untargetable?
Something along those lines is likely, yes.

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 9:36:59 AM
#345
ctesjbuvf posted...
I don't why Wallz instantly went for you and not MZero tbh.
Mzero had already claimed by then, right?
But i think wallz said he saw a third person targeting red too.

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 9:31:13 AM
#333
I think it's +2 lopen and +1 death from what was posted on page 5 but i can't be bothered to update

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 9:30:24 AM
#332
ctesjbuvf posted...
My first thought was that Lopen is probably just scum here, also because I suspected so yesterday as well, but if he's scum untargetable why the hell not just claim untargetable when Dumey clearly had something instead of hider and getting into details. That gave me pause.
This is a really good point, ctes. Perhaps lopen wanted hider to act like Untargetable or Commuter? Hmmm.

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 9:21:32 AM
#324
Why would you assume that Sultan did not target lopen n1?

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 9:20:38 AM
#323
The next line.

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 9:19:49 AM
#320
Why would you assume that?

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 9:06:28 AM
#317
I'll be honest i don't really follow. I would expect you and Dumey to have actions that occur at the same time but i haven't thought through it enough to argue that. So if you get lynched and are aimed at the person that Dumey targeted during the day, then that person would die and dumey would have to be alone that night.

But i would also expect wallz to see dumey visiting whoever he neighborizes. So it's got a day component and a night component that takes priority over roleblocks?

But you bring up a good point about how lopen's reaction to you doesn't quite fit. I think you've been scummy separate from your role, but with the role that you've claimed I buy it. I know how much you love getting a gun.

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 9:00:55 AM
#315
That's 4/7 on lopen. I'd prefer to have day be at least 24 hours so people have the chance to show up or catch up band talk through things.

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 8:34:23 AM
#305
I think lopen is more of a slam dunk than death.

##vote: lopen

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 8:22:24 AM
#303
It felt relevant to resolving the Dumey/ lopen conversation, which i was personally struggling with hardcore.

And re: marth I'm going to assume he's gf until we see a different one flip, but I'll avoid sucking all the air out of the day on that.

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 8:13:47 AM
#300
I'm no claiming expert but i don't think that was necessary at all when we have lopen dead to rights, wallz. And probably not in that way.

Death could be truthful, but it is a super easy claim for scum like Chris says. Lopen/death/corrik/marth?

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 2:27:45 AM
#230
Anyway. For real this time. I was thinking through things trying to sleep but I'm waking up in 4 hours and need to go.

To be absolutely crystal clear here:
Yes, I was blocked. No, I will not claim. It is entirely unnecessary.
If lopen and dumey are both town then this game is comparable to lopen getting insane psychic. In which case I'm sorry you had to get dealt this hand, Lopen.

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 2:20:45 AM
#221
The night action priority list is as follows:
Host Action
Strongman
Redirection
Bus Driving
Roleblocking
Kidnapping/Commuting
Common Actions
Regular Killing Actions
Post-Death Actions

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 2:15:28 AM
#211
.

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 2:13:50 AM
#209
Ty m0

UnderUrMattress posted...
He can't die unless he visits scum. I don't think it can be manipulated?
Role block takes priority. He can be rb'd and killed, and we'd be left chasing after a false alarm.

And scum does have a rber.

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 2:10:46 AM
#204
UnderUrMattress posted...
Hey maybe since we're all confused about Lopen, we could leash his target and if he dies, well sux, but we have a wolf and no more paranoia about Lopen.
Absolutely not, scum will manipulate this in a million different ways dude

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 2:10:09 AM
#203
Lopen posted...
I dunno like, I did buy Dumey as town before he claimed because he had so much gusto
Are you talking right before he claimed or what, because you had Dumey as scum with me at the start of the day.

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 1:25:33 AM
#165
Lopen posted...
scum thinks 3p exists and is trying to 1 for 1 with a guy who isn't going to live long.
...wat

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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 1:21:57 AM
#161
It's so far past my bedtime. I will review tomorrow.

##Unvote

I'm goingto have to start a brand new notepad for this because my review notes all hinged on Sultan/wallz/sbell town and marth/dumey/death scum.


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~Peaf~
TopicVideo Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D
Peace___Frog
05/04/23 1:15:18 AM
#155
Dumey, the only thing stopping me from fully believing you is that you didn't target me.

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~Peaf~
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