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Man i haven't been actually angry about mafia in a long time. Wow

wallmasterz posted...

Peaf looks scummy.

Fucking reply to me then. Death confirmed that i couldn't be targeted n2. Lopen flipped Untargetable. Your argument is among the worst I've ever seen.

Wallz you are arguing that scum has TWO players who are Untargetable. Death confirmed that of me for n2. Against your one use watch? Come on now, don't be silly.

How do you count ctes as confirmed town?

wallmasterz posted...

Sorry peaf, youre caught scum.

Oh I'm driving right now so i can't address this.

I will not claim until after ctes does. And if i die for that then so be it.

UltimaterializerX posted...

I think me being one of the only people to consider Death as town should count for something

Tbf scum knows who town is

Ok well i want ctes to claim before i give any info so that'll have to wait until he wakes up. But my confidence at which i think he is scum is 100% minus the likelihood that the third person is doctor. And right now i think that's only about a 25% chance.

Mzero has put in 100x the effort of ctes and i felt like he approached yesterday with far more town equity.

You think mzero is more likely than this third person who is not ctes?

UnderUrMattress posted...

My whole entire worldview revolved around death being mafia so this sucks.

And what are you going to do about that? You had a full 24 hours to reevaluate. And let's be serious here, with all the other power going around I doubt you'd be worried about scum killing you.

Hey Dumey, did you share wallz' special information with Chris?

EDumey posted...

Damn. I feel bad about missing on Death. Though I think it was still the right play at the time.

Wallz will confirm that yesterday before the day ended I was considering visiting you, but we came up with some other ideas instead. Near the end of the day I may ask whether you want me to visit your or not, but not ready to make that decision yet until everyone at least checks in.

I for one feel vindicated that I pushed to have day last longer than two hours.

I would expect you to say the same thing as scum tbh.

Dumey already got bamboozled once as town neighbor when Lea sweet talked him into torpedoing town. Would he really take the chance on Lea's player slot again like that?

I know he buried Lopen, but he has a very good and long memory. He and Chris could absolutely be scum buddies together. Chris does love his gambits.

UnderUrMattress posted...

I feel like I'm horribly in the dark and wish to be out of it

After wallz comes clean all will be revealed.

SirChris posted...

Well why don't you explain that one first.

I absolutely refuse to until other people start talking.

Frankly, dumey, I really wanted your input on my action last night but I guess it's good that you didn't talk me out of what I chose to do. Good play.

SirChris posted...

Given the last two nights I am not sure it's needed to know tbh

I do because I think I am the reason why - once again - there wasn't a kill last night.

It could be Mzero. Sure. Maybe.

I want to know who this mysterious third person is, wallz/dumey.

And I also want votes on ctes.

Ok well that's insane.

##Vote: Ctes

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When I was transferring licenses between computers I felt like I had to force disconnect them from the users under the MS sign-on multiple times.

I think there's a way to push through the bots and talk to a real person eventually.

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Me, wallz, mzero, and Marth are the ones who considered it iirc.

I could be gambiting scum, trying to save face or out the doctor when i see that my kill didn't go through. Surprised no one brought it up.

Wallz is almost confirmed town.

Mzero could be lying scum who faked a scan to get on Marth's good side.

Marth could be gf.

But the least you could do is use names, if you're town

Yeah it's super rude to just say "people" and not call out names, Chris.

SirChris posted...

Like even in terrible scenarios where death flips town we need to know that ASAP.

Lmao?

"What if mafia has a role cop" if you play your game around what-ifs of some super op role that scum could have then you're probably making weaker than optimal plays to begin with

Then death dies and doc dies and we move on with the game with the text in front of us.

That's -2

##vote: death

I agree with dumey.

wallmasterz posted...

Dumey with respect to the fact youre probably but not definitely town Im not sure I worry about scum having a Jack which includes strongman, and I think giving death the chance to be a permanent shield for doc means he either dies saving doc an extra day or gets resolved that way instead of mislynch

You do know that if Death is scum then all you've done is given up that name for free, and gotten nothing out of it?

EDumey posted...

Just lynch Death. If he flips town, we can do the Sultan exchange after. Or if Death flips scum, we can test Sultan with him shooting someone else in the PoE like Ctes instead.

I'm good with this.
I love it when you talk math to me

I'd prefer otherwise. If you die tonight then Dumey says who it is tomorrow.

And like i said, if he's scum then he's earned the win.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

The lack of participation today is alot a bit troubling

Not really. Some people wanted to end the day 18 hours ago. Others are busy. And most have said their piece.

Wallz you looked deep in thought for a second there. Once you give the green light I'm good to acquiesce to corrik here.

Marth i think you're too far into weird scenarios. Ulti's chris push is fine.

Not the direction for today, but not crazy either.

wallmasterz posted...

Peaf I believe at one point you said you think theres possibly no doctor in this game. Do you still think this now that there was no successful night kill?

Yes, because i believe i am the reason there was no night kill.

Let me put it this way. Given red had to do something special to become a come and i am also only conditionally about to prevent a night kill, i think that if we had a standard doc then this would be a high protection game. If we do not have a doc then it would be a low protection game. The bg fake claim was admittedly a good one.

htaeD posted...

Ctes also rightfully called out Lopen for being too opportunistic, then he mentioned Lopen again way later as someone who should have stood out more. Not much, but better than nothing.

Ctes has been calling people out for being opportunistic when he himself put down 1 vote on d1 against the guy who got trained at the end of day, zero votes on day 2, and 1 vote day 3 against the guy who got trained at the start of the day. He is the definition of opportunistic and is projecting.

Hell, he called ME opportunistic day 2 when i did the same thing we're doing now and just considering the different angles and paths forward.

Sorry for getting on your nerves here corrik, but there are too many scummy people to say it's so simple moving forward.

MZero posted...

Marth and Dumey likely town based on night actions
So I think there's one scum in Sultan/Death and I think it's Sultan
I also think Sultan randomly jumping on Lopen was a distancing attempt

I should just take the inno scan and chill, huh

Death/sultan/ctes is possible, certainly.

Marth and Chris are both super suspect too so it might not be quite so clean as that.

I don't mind killing Sultan today and having him point his gun at death, if we want to just kill them both (assuming Sultan is town). If they're both town though, we lose ourselves a day in the grand scheme of things.

But yeah Sultan is probably scum.

htaeD posted...

Allthough now it just sounds like Peaf wants to believe me?

I'd believe you much more if you hadn't claimed to target me instead of Wallz or Dumey, who objectively looked townier than me n2, and one of whom gave far better night info to town than i could.

Thanks.

Even though corrik and Marth both wanted this to end ten hours ago and ctes can't be here today, i wanted to delay things so that you could at least be present and caught up, Ulti.

And since we're here and talking through things i think there's some value in getting death's thoughts in the events that he is actually town

If we are talking purely setup meta then i buy bg more than i buy standard doc.

That's -1 again. Careful.

htaeD posted...

The actual killer also targeted you obviously

Unless wallz is correct that this third person who targeted red n1 is some kind of Protection, and they made the night winning save instead of me.

I still don't think that that player is protection, for the record. But wallz and dumey think they're town regardless.