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Topic	Woman tracks her stolen car for days with social media tips, catches thief
Patchwork 07/18/21 6:39:02 AM #27	Middle hope posted... Detroit police are stretched thin and dont have the manpower for something like getting back a stolen car. My grandfather has been on the DPD force for over 50 years and told me how much of a shit show it is. Sometimes they cant even get to murder scenes for hours because they are preoccupied with so much other shit. Only way to get them to come for sure is to call in an officer down. In departments like DPD, you literally come into your shift with a few hundred pending calls that the previous shift didnt have time to handle. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.
Topic	Cop says 'you're about to die' before shooting man execution style.
Patchwork 07/14/21 8:05:45 PM #172	Mr Sandbag posted... >two officers in a scuffle with a guy >he has already said he has a gun and has been belligerent the whole time >one of the officers says the guy has his gun At that point any officer would do what he did. You have to act quick or an innocent person could get killed. Like I said earlier, an officer doesn't have to have a gun pointed at them in order to shoot first. He wasnt being that belligerent; he was heavily under the influence and suicidal. Ontop of that, his claims of having a gun are no factor. They searched him upon arrest, hes handcuffed, and they clearly dont take his claims seriously (as they shouldnt). Moreover, your assertion that any cop would do what this sergeant did in this instance is outrageously incorrect. I wouldnt. Ive had people grab for my gun in streetfights when I was alone, and I was able to get them into custody without the weapon ever being drawn. There were multiple officers present. There was no need for deadly force here. In addition, the complacency of the officer whose gun is grabbed is incredibly frustrating. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.
Topic	Cop says 'you're about to die' before shooting man execution style.
Patchwork 07/14/21 3:36:13 PM #105	I just watched this the other night. Though you can clearly see the dude grab the officers gun, there were at least 3 of them in that room. I cant see any reason why, unless the officers gun was already out of the holster (which I highly doubt), youd have to use deadly force here. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.
Topic	Woman faces year in prison for crumpling blue lives matter sign and 'smirking'
Patchwork 07/12/21 1:28:16 PM #136	Police are already protected classes in cases where it actually matters, like when theyre physically assaulted. They dont need to be, nor should they be, protected under hate crime statutes. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.
Topic	Woman faces year in prison for crumpling blue lives matter sign and 'smirking'
Patchwork 07/12/21 11:13:50 AM #133	If the sign is someone elses property, its the victims choice in whether charges are brought on that count. However, I take serious issue with the officer noting the intimidating smirk in the report or charging documents. Real fucking unnecessary and stupid. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.
Topic	Why isn't the big titted racist, Billie Eilish,being cancelled for being racist?
Patchwork 06/21/21 3:47:44 PM #126	PC-Builder_Pony posted... Shouldn't matter Our entire society begs to differ. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.
Topic	Who else getting PTO for Juneteenth today?
Patchwork 06/18/21 11:42:58 AM #19	Juneteenth being a federal holiday likely means that Ill be getting time-and-a-half when its incorporated in officially. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.
Topic	TIL that Pennysylvania was mostly founded by Quakers.
Patchwork 06/13/21 9:50:25 AM #8	Fuckin right, and the homeland of Dick Winters. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.
Topic	Pitbull bites little girl. Could have killed her if her dad didn't save her.
Patchwork 06/10/21 10:06:26 PM #30	I love pitbulls. Got a big ol pitty myself. Hes a big baby. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.
Topic	"The choice" in Mass Effect 1 is really not that hard... spoilers
Patchwork 05/24/21 9:41:12 PM #39	I always kill Kaiden off because hes Carth Onasi and he was annoying in KotOR. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.
Topic	Would you give up all your guns if you were asked to do so?
Patchwork 05/09/21 6:47:20 PM #39	IloveJesus posted... No, not just because of that. However, it's a factor. And I'm not claiming I magically come out on top in all possible scenarios, but I like my chances. They won't. It doesn't happen like that here. It's so incredibly rare I may as well.worry about getting struck lightning. Here, you're mostly talking about ketamine and heroin users. Anybody likely to break in as a result of drug use is unlikely to be on them at the time, but in withdrawal. When I served as a police officer, I often had to deal with people like that physically. They really aren't much of a threat if you know what you're doing. People who aren't junkies are a much more serious threat. What country are you in, for a better reference point on where youre speaking from? --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.
Topic	Would you give up all your guns if you were asked to do so?
Patchwork 05/09/21 12:05:42 PM #18	No. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.
Topic	How is The Punisher series on Netflix?
Patchwork 05/02/21 6:01:20 PM #15	Both seasons are great. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.
Topic	If people STOPPED committing crimes, there would be LESS cop shootings.
Patchwork 04/28/21 6:47:49 PM #27	Conflict posted... This is not a point of dispute. Most, if not all police shooting incidents that receive controversy are incidents where someone died when they weren't presenting themselves as a threat It is a point of dispute, though. You can see from the shooting in Columbus. A vocal segment of the population right now thinks lethal force should never be used. I dont know you well enough to say if thats your view, and Im not going to assume you believe one way or the other. The pendulum is swinging too far the other way, when what we need are people with good sense to make proper case-by-case rulings on these incidents. There are too many factors to be all in one way or the other. Im just trying to find a way forward for all of us, and keep people safe from both criminals and those whove duped departments and cities well enough to have a badge pinned to their chest despite their clear short comings. We need to do better. So, so much better. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.
Topic	If people STOPPED committing crimes, there would be LESS cop shootings.
Patchwork 04/28/21 4:18:10 PM #20	SSJPurple posted... Could you point me to the crime Breonna Taylor committed the night she was killed? Bootlicker, go get pegged by your gods in blue. While I know this isnt going to be a good faith discourse, Ill engage anyway. Breonna Taylor didnt commit any crime the night that she was killed; that is correct. She was close enough to a criminal drug enterprise, however, that a judge felt compelled to sign a search warrant for her apartment. In the legal service of that warrant, Taylors boyfriend shot at police. More than likely, police didnt knock and announce, though Im fairly sure it was a no-knock warrant. Regardless, Taylor was killed in the ensuing conflict. Taylors death is a tragedy. She didnt deserve to be arrested, let alone killed, but by no means was it the outright execution people have been making it out to be. In any case, this is a disingenuous topic. There are terrible shootings, illegal uses of force, and criminal police officers; these are unarguable points. There are also a criminals who refuse to submit to the rule of law, fight the police, shoot at the police, and willfully and wantonly commit violence against other citizens. Some of those people will die in a confrontation with police; this, too, is unarguable. It is also unavoidable. We should absolutely strive to eliminate the harm to or the deaths of anyone when it is not absolutely necessary. Taylor should not have died. Castille should not have died. Floyd should not have died. Wright should not have died. But on the same note, society must come to grips with the fact that until you divert those criminal pathways, it must come to grips with the fact that people will die at the hands of police. People accept that police will die in the line of duty. Thats the choice police made. People need to accept that those who try to kill, maim, or harm others will also die on occasion. Call out the bad shootings, call out the bad cops. Prosecute them. But stop condemning every use of force. Force is a necessary tool of the job, at all levels. Not everyone respects words. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.
Topic	Virginia shooting bodycam released. Shot 10 times on his phone with 911.
Patchwork 04/28/21 4:01:15 PM #51	What_ posted... 1 shots. Not Good enough? In general, if there WERE a legitimate threat, no. One round, unless in the absolute perfect spot, typically wont stop a motivated threat. I dont know if you saw the video of the recent shooting in the hospital (cant remember where it was), but that guy took a round or two early on and continued to be a threat and then opened fire on officers again. I get the idea that one should be enough; I can understand why youd think that way. Typically, it isnt. But this is a bad shoot regardless. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.
Topic	Virginia shooting bodycam released. Shot 10 times on his phone with 911.
Patchwork 04/27/21 12:26:10 PM #49	These are mistakes you cant make. Give yourself time and space, get cover, etc. With more space, theres less onus on making that life or death decision so quickly. Fuckin christ. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.
Topic	Jay-Z was born in the projects with 0 money and now he's a billionaire.
Patchwork 04/26/21 6:02:13 AM #29	More importantly, hes married to Beyonc. Smh. That lucky SOB. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.
Topic	People are protesting the killing of Ma'Khia Bryant? She tried stabbing people
Patchwork 04/26/21 6:00:34 AM #379	Esrac posted... Having only read the first two pages of this topic, I can only get the impression that some of these people have absolutely unreasonable expectations for what cops should be capable of, what constitutes self defense, and will condemn any lethal altercation a cop has with a black person, regardless of whether or not it was justified. I like to think most people can see a situation like what happened to George Floyd and acknowledge that it was an unjustifiable use of force against him, while also looking at this situation and acknowledging the lethal force was justifiable. Reason, at last. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.
Topic	Why are pit bulls legal again?
Patchwork 04/07/21 3:37:22 PM #224	kingdrake2 posted... it's a nice picture. whichever that dog breed is. bonus points if it's a greyhound or a pitbull. Hes a pitbull. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.
Topic	George Floyd: " I ate too many drugs "
Patchwork 04/07/21 3:30:44 PM #12	I still maintain that he wont get convicted of the murder charges. Its tough, with how those charges are written, to prove those cases. Well see, though. Chauvin is a shitbag, and he deserves to be in prison, but its not as clear cut as people think it is. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.
Topic	Angelina Jolie as a forest ranger fighting killers targeting a child
Patchwork 04/07/21 3:26:08 PM #6	Jon Bernthal not gonna live long in this, I bet. Damn shame. Really great in everything hes in. Looks good, though. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.
Topic	Why are pit bulls legal again?
Patchwork 04/07/21 3:23:41 PM #221	Just plotting my death, clearly. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.
Topic	The Chauvin defense attorney keeps saying that use of force is not pretty
Patchwork 04/07/21 11:48:56 AM #4	Its his way of trying to downplay how horrific the video is, I would guess. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.
Topic	Why are pit bulls legal again?
Patchwork 04/07/21 11:44:26 AM #81	I have a pitbull, and hes the biggest baby youd ever meet. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.
Topic	Cenk goes after Alr-Right Joe Rogan: How do you like Texas now?
Patchwork 02/19/21 10:02:19 AM #53	Hoping another guy freezes his ass off just because wanted to live in another state is a weird stand to take. This dude is a fucking moron. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.
Topic	My expectations for Biden were low, but damn
Patchwork 02/19/21 9:59:52 AM #4	Its only February, but to take any politician at their word is a mistake. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n.
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