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TopicSave My Favourite Anime Series 8: Round 78 [SMFAS]
NBIceman
06/04/21 1:23:03 PM
#53
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TopicSave My Favourite Anime Series 8: Round 78 [SMFAS]
NBIceman
06/04/21 12:15:28 PM
#22
Brotherhood

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TopicSave My Favourite Anime Series 8: Round 77 [SMFAS]
NBIceman
06/03/21 1:21:01 PM
#57
Trigun

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TopicSave My Favourite Anime Series 8: Round 77 [SMFAS]
NBIceman
06/03/21 12:05:23 PM
#6
Brotherhood

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TopicGot kids, Board 8?
NBIceman
06/02/21 11:20:04 PM
#17
Used to think I despised kids, had the epiphany recently that the only thing I really despise is bad parents.

So yeah, I reckon I'd like to have a couple on the off chance I find the right woman.

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TopicHey, Bored 8. Long time no see. 1) How've you been? and 2) AMA
NBIceman
06/02/21 4:27:49 PM
#17
BlueCrystalTear posted...
I sure would have! (I still need to get to Berseria though, particularly before Arise comes out.)

...is that, uh, "Lost Old Games Site" still a thing? HMMM.........
It is indeed. Just search "Iceman" and you should find it.

I spoiler tagged the hell out of everything, too, so you wouldn't have to worry about running across anything Berseria-related that you may not want to see.

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TopicHey, Bored 8. Long time no see. 1) How've you been? and 2) AMA
NBIceman
06/02/21 4:03:15 PM
#14
Howdy.

You missed my big ol' Tales Character ranking topic last year - bet you would've enjoyed that.

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TopicSave My Favourite Anime Series 8: Round 76 [SMFAS]
NBIceman
06/02/21 2:37:56 PM
#71
Trigun

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TopicSave My Favourite Anime Series 8: Round 76 [SMFAS]
NBIceman
06/02/21 1:30:59 PM
#32
Brotherhood

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TopicSave My Favourite Anime Series 8: Round 75 [SMFAS]
NBIceman
06/01/21 2:49:39 PM
#68
Trigun

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TopicSave My Favourite Anime Series 8: Round 75 [SMFAS]
NBIceman
06/01/21 1:19:24 PM
#14
Brotherhood

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TopicRate the VG Story Day 4: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
NBIceman
05/30/21 7:53:30 PM
#28
7.5 sounds about right.

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TopicSave My Favourite Anime Series 8: Round 74 [SMFAS]
NBIceman
05/30/21 2:01:25 PM
#78
Trigun

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TopicSave My Favourite Anime Series 8: Round 74 [SMFAS]
NBIceman
05/30/21 12:36:23 PM
#46
Brotherhood

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TopicNo board 8 NHL anymore?
NBIceman
05/29/21 12:06:02 AM
#30
Crescent-Moon posted...
That game was so egregiously rigged in favor of Vegas that my interest in the NHL itself just died. I actually found that game so offensive to watch that I did not watch the third, and I had no rooting stock in that game as an Islanders fan.

I can't remember having a single game completely destroy a league for me but it just happened. I'll keep supporting the Islanders but that's about it.
lmao

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TopicPoll for non-smokers
NBIceman
05/28/21 6:50:08 PM
#67
Nothing sets off denizens of niche internet forums like other people's lifestyle opinions that will never have the tiniest impact on their own life one way or another.

Smoking is disgusting to me and if I end up dying alone because of that, of all things, I think I'll still survive.

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TopicAnagram Ranks 145 Waifus: The Top 22
NBIceman
05/28/21 4:49:20 PM
#149
XII is the best FF game, fight me.

Although I haven't played 7R yet.

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TopicAnagram Ranks 145 Waifus: The Top 22
NBIceman
05/28/21 4:35:03 PM
#147
Leonhart4 posted...
(Also the #3 waifu is Ashe)
Good taste.

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TopicSave My Favourite Anime Series 8: Round 73 [SMFAS]
NBIceman
05/27/21 3:53:33 PM
#66
Trigun

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TopicSave My Favourite Anime Series 8: Round 73 [SMFAS]
NBIceman
05/27/21 2:32:53 PM
#5
Brotherhood

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TopicSave My Favourite Anime Series 8: Round 72 [SMFAS]
NBIceman
05/26/21 2:08:45 PM
#60
Trigun

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TopicSave My Favourite Anime Series 8: Round 72 [SMFAS]
NBIceman
05/26/21 12:55:12 PM
#24
Brotherhood

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TopicEddv talks shit about topics nominated by the users
NBIceman
05/26/21 10:08:01 AM
#5
Chris Hero

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TopicCold take time: What's the best story you've seen in a non-story-driven game?
NBIceman
05/25/21 8:01:37 PM
#18
Yeah, it's Celeste by a mile for me.

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TopicHot take time: What is the worst story you've ever seen in a story-driven game?
NBIceman
05/25/21 7:58:41 PM
#207
UshiromiyaEva posted...
No matter which side you end up on, it was definitely the Tales game with the most to say and the most risks in its story at the time and for long after. There's no doubt it's a very unique and interesting entry in the franchise, and the most memorable, even if you hate it.

Compared to the coating of Vaseline blandness smeared over the stories of every game in the franchise for a decade+ after...
Yeah, I do think if you're a fan of JRPGs at all, Abyss is a game you should absolutely make a concerted effort to at least take a chance on. It's pretty unique in the genre for the things it does and the amount of thought that's put into all of the worldbuilding, theming, etc.

It may work for you, it may not; it's the most polarizing game of an already-polarizing franchise and even its biggest fans like me will, to a point, respond with "Yeah, I get it" when folks say they didn't care for it. But if it does click, it's an incredibly worthwhile experience.

Anyway, the last thing I'll say as part of the discussion that I didn't really even want to get dragged into in the first place is that I think Jade is taking a little too much fire for the immediate post-Akzeriuth saga. He doesn't abuse Luke or even really try to assign blame at all; he essentially just says that the entire argument is bothering him and removes himself from it entirely, and considering who he is I think the subtext pretty well implies that he knows he's got bigger things to worry about than useless finger-pointing, and he doesn't see the need to explain anything to a bunch of people he's fairly sure at that point he's never going to encounter again. Plus, it's made clear over and over that he does indeed feel considerable guilt for everything that happens due to the things he's created. He's got a lot of sociopathic tendencies, sure, but I would argue that post-Nebilim-Incident Jade is never actively a bad person.

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TopicHot take time: What is the worst story you've ever seen in a story-driven game?
NBIceman
05/25/21 7:16:42 PM
#168
xp1337 posted...
Admittedly it's been a long, long time since I've played Abyss, but my recollection was along the lines of: While the party does place some blame on Luke, it's when he tries to say he wasn't at fault at all that makes them go over the deep end and tear him apart... atop the stressful situation they're in in the aftermath. Had Luke admitted that he bore some of the blame I don't think they would have reacted as harshly, but the last thing they wanted to hear was "It wasn't my fault!" Guy seems to reflect on this and ditches the party to rejoin Luke. Tear happens to hang around in Yulia City long enough for Luke to process and resolve to do better. Now Jade, Anise, and Natalia are assholes about it for different reasons. Jade damn well knows better given he figured out Luke's situation long before... but he only admits he was also at fault for what happened at Akzeriuth in one of Abyss's many missable sidequests. Natalia is pre-character development and a brat. Anise is the worst though, because when Ion actually tries to speak up in Luke's defense by pointing out that he (Ion) was at fault for releasing the seal Anise shuts him up to pile on Luke some more.
All of this is correct - your memory serves you well.

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TopicHot take time: What is the worst story you've ever seen in a story-driven game?
NBIceman
05/25/21 7:15:17 PM
#166
HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
He's both a victim and a perpetrator. It is not at all mutually exclusive.

And I feel like a big part of it is that Luke has had plenty of opportunity to grow and learn by this point in the story and has rejected all of them. He's a victim but isn't completely devoid of agency!
This is absolutely the correct take.

And Luke would agree with it as well, no gaslighting needed. There's an early game skit in the Cheagle Woods where he repeatedly forces Mieu to breathe fire all over the place, and when Tear calls him out for the danger of burning down everything, he responds that it would be Mieu's fault if that happens since he's the one actually breathing the fire.

It's amazing how a game that beats players over the head with the idea that no one and nothing are ever exclusively good or bad and that trying to deal with the word through absolutes causes only problems because basically nothing is black-or-white still has so many people completely miss the point.

Equally amazing is the Luke/Anise thing.

Luke: Nukes an entire town due to being told he'd get a bunch of personal glory etc. out of it, insisted over and over afterwards that it wasn't at all his fault, and was a massive asshole in general. Therefore, a party who barely knows each other and, in multiple cases, outright distrusts and dislikes each other, gives him no leeway whatsoever.

Anise: Ends up causing the death of one person (an important one, but one nonetheless) due to being in a literal hostage situation with the most powerful group of people on the planet, is actively trying to prevent it as it's happening, and shows remorse immediately afterward. Also, Ion had some choice in the matter as well since he wanted to save Tear anyway. Therefore, a party who has grown closer and grown immensely as individuals as well actually do give her some leeway. This is not hypocrisy. This is character growth. Treating Luke, a prick, like crap after Akzeriuth didn't really help matters. Why would treating a remorseful friend like crap many moons later do any good either?

The only thing those two events share in common is that bad stuff happens.

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TopicCW Live Action Powerpuff Girls leaked script excerpts
NBIceman
05/25/21 7:04:23 PM
#48
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
If you read the script excerpts, it's pretty clear they had Big Opinions That Must Be Heard Through A Children's Show For Adults.
Okay, but I don't know if I necessarily qualify that as "passion."

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TopicHot take time: What is the worst story you've ever seen in a story-driven game?
NBIceman
05/25/21 5:10:05 PM
#114
UshiromiyaEva posted...
Danganronpa V3 and Abyss both among my favorite stories in gaming <_<
I'll go one better - Abyss is one of my favorite stories in any medium of fiction.

I think it takes multiple playthroughs to really hit that transcendent level, though, and considering the fact that I completely understand what would stop folks from wanting to finish even one (since that almost even happened to me), I certainly get why people tend to think I'm crazy for saying that.

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TopicSave My Favourite Anime Series 8: Round 71 [SMFAS] [RULE CHANGE]
NBIceman
05/25/21 5:01:57 PM
#150
School Rumble

I don't know why Bubu always seems to disappear after offering trades but since I also save Brotherhood I'll make good on that one this time even though I don't really like trading in Save Mys.

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TopicSave My Favourite Anime Series 8: Round 71 [SMFAS] [RULE CHANGE]
NBIceman
05/25/21 2:34:53 PM
#72
Trigun

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TopicCW Live Action Powerpuff Girls leaked script excerpts
NBIceman
05/25/21 1:18:54 PM
#40
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Because they had a vision they felt passionately about to greenlight and start filming, even if it was absolutely shitty.
I'm not sure I buy that any part of this creation from the very beginning had any sort of passion behind it.


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TopicHot take time: What is the worst story you've ever seen in a story-driven game?
NBIceman
05/25/21 1:13:11 PM
#61
Murphiroth posted...
It's worth noting that almost everything he said is purely fan speculation that's never had any real proof.
No real proof, but a good deal of smoke to the fire.

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TopicSave My Favourite Anime Series 8: Round 71 [SMFAS] [RULE CHANGE]
NBIceman
05/25/21 12:50:14 PM
#6
Brotherhood

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TopicHot take time: What is the worst story you've ever seen in a story-driven game?
NBIceman
05/25/21 10:30:28 AM
#21
Tales of Zestiria and it's really not close.

I've used this comparison before but it reminds me of one of those old cartoon ransom notes with all the letters made up of magazine clippings with how many unrelated themes and random crap it tries to throw in all at once. And that's even before Rose shows up and turns it into an outright unmitigated disaster.

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TopicCW Live Action Powerpuff Girls leaked script excerpts
NBIceman
05/25/21 1:18:45 AM
#6
what in the everloving hell

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TopicSave My Favourite Anime Series 8: Round 70 [SMFAS]
NBIceman
05/24/21 3:00:09 PM
#66
Trigun

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TopicSave My Favourite Anime Series 8: Round 70 [SMFAS]
NBIceman
05/24/21 1:32:25 PM
#17
FMA: Brotherhood

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TopicSave My Favourite Anime Series 8: Round 69 [SMFAS]
NBIceman
05/23/21 12:09:54 PM
#32
Brotherhood

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TopicSave My Favourite Anime Series 8: Round 68 [SMFAS]
NBIceman
05/22/21 3:07:39 PM
#105
Trigun

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TopicSave My Favourite Anime Series 8: Round 68 [SMFAS]
NBIceman
05/22/21 2:05:07 PM
#81
Brotherhood

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TopicDid you like The Simpsons movie?
NBIceman
05/21/21 4:39:42 PM
#11
Snake5555555555 posted...
I loved it back in '07 when I was Simpsons obsessed, now it's pretty meh for me.
Yeah, this.

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TopicSave My Favourite Anime Series 8: Round 67 [SMFAS]
NBIceman
05/21/21 2:59:46 PM
#85
Trigun

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TopicSave My Favourite Anime Series 8: Round 67 [SMFAS]
NBIceman
05/21/21 12:51:45 PM
#31
Brotherhood

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TopicCasanovaZelos's Top 250 Songs Project
NBIceman
05/20/21 3:14:24 PM
#67
I wouldn't call myself much of a Beatles fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I do love Eleanor Rigby.

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TopicSave My Favourite Anime Series 8: Round 66 [SMFAS]
NBIceman
05/20/21 12:19:46 PM
#16
Brotherhood

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TopicMy house is being invaded by a TINY KITTEN!
NBIceman
05/20/21 1:46:18 AM
#6
Cat.

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TopicSave My Favourite Anime Series 8: Round 65 [SMFAS]
NBIceman
05/19/21 5:19:28 PM
#117
Trigun

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TopicSave My Favourite Anime Series 8: Round 65 [SMFAS]
NBIceman
05/19/21 2:02:47 PM
#21
Brotherhood

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TopicSummer Games Done Quick schedule is out
NBIceman
05/19/21 12:55:07 AM
#12
Oh hell yes La-Mulana

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