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TopicX-Men Draft Round 1: Blue Division
NBIceman
11/23/19 1:41:18 AM
#57
Fight
Mega Mana vs. MegamanX
Otherworld X is an obnoxious battling lineup but Future's just too strong here.

Eddv vs. Scare
This is a tough matchup but I don't really know if Scare has a strong answer for Havok and/or Leech.

Lopen vs. Shaduln
Lopen's team has some annoying shenanigans, but without Magneto I think Shad's gonna overpower him.

Pitch
Mega Mana vs. MegamanX
If Future of X focused entirely on the younger crowd that's already dealt with alternate future issues in Rachel, Cable, and Shard, this would be a stomp in its favor. Storm, although I generally like her, bogs the concept down a good bit - I feel like her presence is going to keep the real storyline stars from spreading their wings all the way. That said, MMX, despite having a solid base concept and good roster in a vacuum, they feel really disjointed when put together. Because I have issues with both, I'm defaulting to the lineup of characters that I personally just like better.

Eddv vs. Scare
The worst thing I can say about Ed's pitch is that I've never been a huge Jubilee fan, because otherwise I love it. I like Scare's supporting cast, some of them quite a bit, but I feel like the pitch as written is going to completely throw them to the wayside in favor of Wolverine/Deadpool odd couple wackiness, which holds little to no appeal for me.

Lopen vs. Shaduln
I don't know if I really feel like either of these rosters have a ton of chemistry. I'll give RetroaXtive the edge in this match mostly for having a more detailed, thought-out pitch and a more compelling lead character for my tastes.
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TopicX-Men Draft Round 1: Gold Division
NBIceman
11/23/19 1:04:59 AM
#70
Fight
redrocket vs. banananor
I could be persuaded here. Rocket has a very cohesive lineup. But for the purposes of this fight I almost feel like Jean and Emma kind of cancel each other out for the most part. If these teams fought ten times, I think Mutant Intent could probably pull out six wins, so I'll go with them.

Wicklebee vs. ChichiriMuyo
The X-Treme lineup is annoying as all get-out in a fight.

MartinFF7 vs. DeathChicken
Cohesion is a problem for Martin's team, and it will continue to be so if some changes aren't made, but I think in this instance he's bringing enough pure firepower that it won't matter.

Johnbobb vs. IhatethisCPU
His argument has even seemingly convinced CPU that he's got the advantage here. And I agree with prof that Darwin is an underrated asset here.

Pitch
redrocket vs. banananor
I'm not in love with either of these, but Rocket X at least feels like it has a clear direction. banananor has the superior lineup, if for no other reason than that Rocket has a couple of really boring big names overshadowing what is ostensibly a solo book, but the pitch is so vague that I can't even really formulate a strong opinion on it.

Wicklebee vs. ChichiriMuyo
I don't think I can add much commentary to this past what everyone's already said.

MartinFF7 vs. DeathChicken
I agree with all the criticisms about the Brotherhood, but I'm really not into this Doop concept at all. I think it obscures a lineup with a lot of potential instead of supporting it. I don't feel wild about it, but if I saw these two ideas in book form sitting next to each other on the shelf, I think I'd have enough morbid curiosity to pick up Martin's first.

Johnbobb vs. IhatethisCPU
Tough matchup in the fight and a tough, tough matchup in the pitch. If CPU had been matched up with almost any other team this round, he'd be the easy winner. This came down to the very nebulous idea of which roster I like better, and Johnbobb's is probably one of my overall favorites in this project.
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TopicI rank Pokemon songs [nominations] [VGM]
NBIceman
11/21/19 8:17:09 PM
#20
Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal - Kanto Gym Leader Battle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJZBLs0-mEE

Pokemon Ranger: Guardian Signs - Faldera Volcano
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ_bEELND7o
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TopicI rank Pokemon songs [nominations] [VGM]
NBIceman
11/21/19 7:53:02 PM
#13
Pokemon Colosseum - The Under
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvFFxx3k38A

Pokemon HeartGold and SoulSilver - Ho-oh Battle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyBkdZNT1DE

Other two to come later.
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 2
NBIceman
11/21/19 3:08:28 AM
#54
I'm figuring to be a pretty active trader, but I want to wait to the end of the round to get into the nitty-gritty of it in case scarlet wants to make a dedicated topic for it or something - I know he said at one point it'd mostly be a weekend thing.

What I'll go ahead and say is that there aren't but two or maybe three members of my team that I'm dead set on keeping, and some you might be able to get for cents on the dollar.
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TopicX-Men Draft Round 1: Blue Division
NBIceman
11/20/19 10:54:11 PM
#28
As far as Apocalypse goes in my pitch, the extent of his involvement is essentially just supposed to be that he's the impetus behind its formation and really nothing else. He reaches out to Namor and convinces him of the need for a unit of this kind, puts the wheels in motion for the recruitment of a few of its members, and then divorces himself from it entirely, retreating to his place on the Quiet Council with the understanding that it's really the Sub-Mariner's to do with as he pleases and that, should it ever become advantageous or necessary, he would disavow any knowledge of its very existence.

The idea is for this group to be very loosely affiliated and almost completely reactive in their operations. They don't actively seek out missions and, due to the nature of their purpose, it is not required or even expected that all members participate in all matters that may merit their intervention. For his part, though, Namor is charismatic and still self-interested, and I imagine that in the course of the team's life he'd arrange for a job or two that would further Atlantean goals rather than Krakoan or mutantkind in general. Otherwise, he wouldn't have been inclined to be included in the first place. For all intents and purposes, it's his team - he just needed the initial push.

If that's even too much interference by an outside character as per the rules, I'll gladly amend my pitch in the following weeks and submit my apologies for misunderstanding the extent to which an extraneous character could be employed. Truth be told, he was mostly just the most viable way I could conceive of for getting Sabretooth out of that damned whole Xavier chucked him into in HoX.
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TopicX-Men Draft Round 1: Blue Division
NBIceman
11/20/19 1:37:44 PM
#8
I just realized I screwed up on the second part of the pitch rule by not namedropping every character in my attempt to keep everything relatively compact. I think you said you'd relax that requirement a bit, though?
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 2
NBIceman
11/20/19 2:22:17 AM
#41
Since Scare re-posted the rules, I want to note real quick that scarlet mentioned towards the end of the last topic that he was changing rule 6 so that characters must only be inactive against two distinct opponents instead of three just in case anyone's trying to make last-minute decisions that might be affected by that difference.

Anyway, apologies for the delay, but here's my team again.

X-trinsic
Sub-Mariner (Namor McKenzie)
Sabretooth (Victor Creed)
Forge (Jonathan Silvercloud)
Spiral (Rita Wayword)
Lady Mastermind (Regan Wyngarde)
Aurora (Jeanne-Marie Beaubier)
Frenzy (Joanna Cargill)
Hellion (Julian Keller)
Oya (Idie Okonkwo)
Primal (Teon Macik)
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TopicWhat are some things I should do in San Antonio?
NBIceman
11/19/19 11:57:47 PM
#7
Definitely check out the Riverwalk - it'll be all nice and lit up for Christmastime and there's great food there.

Outside of that, if you like burgers, Chris Madrid's is a must.

The Alamo is kind of neat if you like history, but not to the point of spending a lot of time there - don't block out a whole day for it or anything.

And I second the Fredericksburg recommendation.
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TopicVergeben posting in a Tales thread = LLOYD CONFIRMED
NBIceman
11/19/19 1:21:26 PM
#19
What are you talking about? Boomers were definitely playing Tales of Symphonia in, like, the 70s.
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TopicVergeben posting in a Tales thread = LLOYD CONFIRMED
NBIceman
11/18/19 11:43:11 PM
#2
Lloyd's the only character I really care about getting into Smash at this point (at least of those that have any sort of chance whatsoever), so hey, I'll take what I can get.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 491: Seth Rollins Appreciation Topic
NBIceman
11/18/19 7:44:07 PM
#270
FFDragon posted...
lmao

Owns Dusty Rhodes but not Cody Rhodes

He owns Cody Rhodes. Just chooses not to use it.
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 1
NBIceman
11/17/19 12:39:47 PM
#471
scarletspeed7 posted...
I'm fine with this. The only limitation is that other characters cannot be on a team or funding a team, or directing a team, etc.

Eeeesh, this might change my plans somewhat. Can they form a team and then step away to be completely hands-off with no further involvement in their operation?
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 491: Seth Rollins Appreciation Topic
NBIceman
11/17/19 10:42:08 AM
#236
ffmasterjose posted...
I wonder how Danny Birch feels about that. Their tag teams like the only thing hes got going. Wouldn't surprise me if he requests his release too tbh

Alternatively, since they're not gonna actually grant Lorcan's release, nothing really changes.
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 1
NBIceman
11/17/19 10:40:29 AM
#455
Round 1
NBIceman vs Snake


I have a feeling I'm gonna start things off getting murdered on the pitch side of things.
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 1
NBIceman
11/16/19 9:32:59 PM
#437
X-trinsic
Namor the Sub-Mariner
Sabretooth (Victor Creed)
Forge
Spiral (Rita Wayword)
Lady Mastermind (Regan Wyngarde)
Aurora (Jeanne-Marie Beaubier)
Frenzy (Joanna Cargill)
Hellion (Julian Keller)
Oya (Idie Okonkwo)
Primal (Teon Macik)

And here's how I'm valuing them all for trade purposes.

Untouchable
Namor
Sabretooth
Spiral

Likely keeping but will listen to offers
Lady Mastermind
Aurora
Frenzy

Wouldn't mind moving
Forge
Hellion

Buyer's Market (would actively like to move)
Oya
Primal

Some of the characters I'd be interested in (not exhaustive):
Boom-Boom
Callisto
Marrow
Morph
Multiple Man
Sage
Wind Dancer
Xorn

Hit me up if anything strikes your fancy.
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 1
NBIceman
11/16/19 6:39:49 PM
#418
Shoulda gone Callisto R9. Damn.

Primal
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 1
NBIceman
11/16/19 2:58:24 PM
#375
Oya.

... I say hesitantly.
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 1
NBIceman
11/16/19 12:06:27 PM
#349
Against what may be my better judgment, Hellion.
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 1
NBIceman
11/15/19 6:24:26 PM
#304
Uhhh let's go with Frenzy.
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 1
NBIceman
11/15/19 6:10:00 PM
#301
Aurora
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TopicDo you take users without signatures less seriously?
NBIceman
11/15/19 4:24:44 PM
#4
Gatarix posted...
I discriminate by accidentally ignoring the last line of their posts because I subliminally think it's a sig

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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 1
NBIceman
11/15/19 4:23:23 PM
#282
@WickIebee on the clock.
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 1
NBIceman
11/15/19 4:21:58 PM
#280
@Mega_Mana

You're up.
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 1
NBIceman
11/15/19 3:53:19 PM
#275
Also I guess he could technically make his first pick within that first hour and then have a whole additional hour to make the second as per the letter of the law, but I don't think he's the kind of psychopath to do such a thing.
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 1
NBIceman
11/15/19 3:31:14 PM
#266
@Johnbobb

In lieu of scarlet who's stepped out for just a bit.
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 1
NBIceman
11/15/19 1:06:13 PM
#226
I better go ahead and grab Lady Mastermind.
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 1
NBIceman
11/14/19 9:57:22 PM
#206
Spiral
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 1
NBIceman
11/14/19 9:51:35 PM
#202
SNAKE NO aaaaaargh
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 1
NBIceman
11/14/19 6:31:35 PM
#162
Nope, he's useless. Matter of fact, you should consider trading him to me later on.
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 1
NBIceman
11/14/19 6:23:44 PM
#158
Mega Mana posted...
NBIceman posted...
Just out of curiosity, if Rachel had gotten past Mana, would anyone else have taken her before I was planning to here? Or do I have to blame Johnbobb since he sniped Siryn from her?

Sabretooth


Prestige was actually my first pick thinking more of the big names would be taken. Storm was just an opportunity I didn't expect to have.

Plan was Prestige+Siryn, but it didn't work out like that.

Fair enough, then. At least someone with good taste got her.
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 1
NBIceman
11/14/19 6:18:21 PM
#152
Forge
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 1
NBIceman
11/14/19 6:02:25 PM
#131
MartinFF7 posted...
Alright I'll keep doing research until it comes back around to me.

Elixir (Joshua Foley)

Well, damn. I thought I could sneak him in a little later.
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 1
NBIceman
11/14/19 5:53:16 PM
#124
Ed is a nightmare to draft against. You figure you can wait until round 7 to grab someone and he takes them in the second.
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 1
NBIceman
11/14/19 5:27:40 PM
#118
Just out of curiosity, if Rachel had gotten past Mana, would anyone else have taken her before I was planning to here? Or do I have to blame Johnbobb since he sniped Siryn from her?

Sabretooth
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 1
NBIceman
11/14/19 4:19:15 PM
#104
IhatethisCPU posted...
SON OF A BITCH >__<

I concur. Damn.
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 1
NBIceman
11/14/19 2:48:59 PM
#65
Mega Mana posted...
Boo, Siryn was my next.

Prestige (Rachel Summers)

boooooooooooo
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 1
NBIceman
11/14/19 2:44:12 PM
#61
If you were trying to get both, I'd have definitely gone Gambit first. Rogue had a chance of actually lasting to your second pick.
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 1
NBIceman
11/14/19 2:42:20 PM
#57
I'm honestly a tad surprised he lasted even as long as he did.
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 1
NBIceman
11/14/19 2:17:21 PM
#44
MartinFF7 posted...
I was wondering what happens if somebody doesnt make their pick by the deadline, we're almost there...!

11) During the draft, each player has 1 hour from the previous pick to make their pick. If they miss that hour, they will be skipped over, but can make it up at any point after that.
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TopicX-Men Draft Topic 1
NBIceman
11/14/19 12:29:01 PM
#20
Ed doing Ed things.

As tempted as I am to be a doofus and take Iceman, I'm gonna go with

Namor
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TopicBulbasaur > Squirtle > Charmander
NBIceman
11/14/19 2:40:49 AM
#3
First forms only, huh?

Bulbasaur > Squirtle > Charmander
Cyndaquil > Chikorita > Totodile
Treecko > Mudkip > Torchic
Turtwig > Piplip > Chimchar
Oshawott > Snivy > Tepig
Chespin > Fennekin > Froakie
Litten > Rowlet > Popplio
Scorbunny > Sobble > Grookey

2 > 5 > 1 > 3 > 7 > 6 > 8 > 4
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TopicWhat's your favorite of the 3 Kanto starters?
NBIceman
11/13/19 7:46:41 PM
#3
Heroic Bigpun posted...
Fuck you, i wanted to vote for bulbasaur

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TopicPokemon Sword/Shield Review Zone
NBIceman
11/13/19 6:15:05 PM
#96
Suprak the Stud posted...
You have clearly not read the pokemon subreddit and for that I envy you because that is nowhere near the limit of what they are saying.

I visit the subreddit semi-frequently but I'll allow that I don't go much further than the most upvoted posts, so if you can direct me to some actual unreasonable complaints there I'd be happy to amend my statement.

Either way, it's hard for me imagine "entitled" is the proper term.
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TopicPokemon Sword/Shield Review Zone
NBIceman
11/13/19 6:05:30 PM
#90
Suprak the Stud posted...
Naye745 posted...
that woman is 100% correct, the pokemon fanbase has shown themselves to be hilariously toxic in the months leading up to the sword/shield release

entitled

This word has become so bastardized in the past couple years that I don't even know if anyone has any idea what it means anymore.

GameFreak has, at best, stretched the truth about this game's development, and at worst, outright lied to all of its fans. It's not an entitled attitude to find that objectionable, and sticking your head in the sand and pretending that all of the vitriol is coming from manchildren that are crying over one particular favorite Pokemon not being in the game or something is, at this point, a deliberate misrepresentation that I just don't understand.
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TopicWould you be interested in a draft-based competition with X-Men characters?
NBIceman
11/13/19 4:41:09 PM
#146
Eddv posted...
NBIceman posted...
Psycho Clown is not on the list, just so you're aware.


Ok but bear with me here - Northstar, America's Finest

I was thinking Colossus.
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TopicWould you be interested in a draft-based competition with X-Men characters?
NBIceman
11/13/19 4:18:11 PM
#142
Eddv posted...
Oh goodness.

I won't be around for pick 1 for sure but I promise Iceman it will be an appropriately eddv draft pick

Psycho Clown is not on the list, just so you're aware.
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TopicWould you be interested in a draft-based competition with X-Men characters?
NBIceman
11/13/19 2:49:36 PM
#133
I'd appreciate a tag as well if you wouldn't mind.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 491: Seth Rollins Appreciation Topic
NBIceman
11/12/19 3:07:02 PM
#133
Eddv posted...
Well I think for sportslike presentation you are imagining like dry characters and interviews we get with say professional football.

The actual genius of the sportslike presentation is that you do still get characters to emerge. Things they care about and are. You still get your Connor McGregors and Jon Joneses and since the whole thing is fixed you can control and develop such conflicts over time such that when you do choose to go soap opera you're going there with a fleshed out character and you're going to resolve it in the ring because that makes sense.

The reverse is when youre so storybased that the question "why is this resolving in a wrestling match" doesnt really have an answer. Why hasn't Seth Rollins just showed up on raw with an Uzzi to end The Fiend once and for all? Almost nothing about their feud has a single god damn thing to do with Wrestling. And the Fiend is clearly a monster and probably a child predator so he'd be somewhat justified in his actions.

Right.

A lot of wrestling fans seem to take "sportslike" as some kind of dirty word that's trying to strip away everything that makes wrestling a unique medium. What I'm actually trying to communicate is that the tendency to get caught up in the grand "why" of stories actually strips away that unique mythos that wrestling has. When I say I want wrestling storylines to be rooted in one guy proving he's better than the other, I mean "rooted." That doesn't mean there isn't room to expand on that based on character histories, personalities, etc.

The best storyline in the past decade of wrestling was the Okada/Tanahashi rivalry. The core basis of that rivalry was that they were trying to prove they were better than each other. But over the years, their motivations changed so much as their characters grew, and their reasons for wanting to be better than the other kept evolving. Tanahashi went from the pure, admirable, undeniable pillar of the company who believed Okada didn't represent NJPW well as champion to a desperate man on the downturn of his career, fighting against the new ace who'd become everything Tanahashi said he couldn't, just to prove that he still had a little bit left in the tank.

You don't need anything more than that. Those two men, despite all the grandiose showmanship that defines them, are simple and believable, but no less compelling for it.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 491: Seth Rollins Appreciation Topic
NBIceman
11/12/19 1:51:14 PM
#122
Strife2 posted...
So, the whole Lana thing got me wondering, is there a style of storylines that just don't work AT ALL (Katie Vick for instance), or is down to the writing and presentation?

Because Vince has this "thing" for soap opera over "I'm just better than you. They has fight." But I wonder if that's just on him, or if writers and promoters on the whole just do't get it.

I mean, it doesn't help that Rusev and Lana's entire post-Cena arc has been about trying to break them up...for some reason.

The reason I'm such a strong proponent of a dedicated sports-esque presentation of wrestling is that I don't think ANY storylines that aren't firmly rooted in one guy trying to prove he's better than the other guy work in wrestling.

I've always been of the opinion that if I want to see drama, I'll watch a drama tv show. If I want comedy, I'll watch a comedy. There's not a single genre wrestling can do better than a good example of that actual genre. Wrestling is its own unique thing and it's a source of great confusion to me that it tries so hard to be everything it's not instead of perfecting what it is.
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