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TopicMike Chioda was paid $200,000 for the 8 minute Taker vs Goldberg Saudi match
Maze_
11/15/23 11:04:07 AM
#3
KiwiTerraRizing posted...


Endeavor paid way too much for WWE and UFC and rumor is they are looking to sell it off.
I thought Endeavors deal was one of these things were the deal is only valid if WWE produces enough profit.

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TopicMike Chioda was paid $200,000 for the 8 minute Taker vs Goldberg Saudi match
Maze_
11/15/23 10:58:19 AM
#1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZLaCVs24Zg

Including a minute each to walk to and from the ring. That's $20,000 a minute for his performance.

Jesus Christ.

You can see why WWE keep coming crawling back to Saudi Arabia.

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TopicYoung Cody Rhodes' first ever apperance on a wrestling show
Maze_
11/07/23 10:30:15 AM
#5
BlazinBlue88 posted...
He's also Cody's uncle. BIL to Dusty.
Cody keeping Kayfabe alive for 30 years

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TopicYoung Cody Rhodes' first ever apperance on a wrestling show
Maze_
11/07/23 8:46:53 AM
#1
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/fe9667ca.jpg

https://twitter.com/WrestlingNewsCo/status/1634719718127927296


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TopicTeddy Long says John Laurinaitis used to 'Come in my face and laugh and grin'
Maze_
11/05/23 1:03:28 PM
#15
Serious_Cat posted...
I've never heard anything even remotely positive about Laurinaitis.
You can make a devils advocate case for him.

He was in the heat position. Having to tell wrestlers they're fired or getting a paycut or need to lose weight. A lot of guys talk about that when he fired them he helped them get booking in Japan using his connections so they weren't left in the cold.

JJ Dillon and Jim Ross also got shit on in those roles. People forget that. Also the fact he was a Dynamic Dude pretty much cemented that no wrestlers respect him.

I mean any wrestler who was hired by WWE in that time period, was hired by Johnny Ace. So if you like any of them, he's to thank.

But yeah it's hard to find stories of good things about him

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TopicSo... uh. Anyone keeping up on Silent Hill Ascension?
Maze_
11/03/23 9:12:30 AM
#29
creativerealms posted...
I have zero faith in Konami,


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TopicTeddy Long says John Laurinaitis used to 'Come in my face and laugh and grin'
Maze_
11/03/23 9:00:55 AM
#8
roos1046_Reborn posted...
Who did what to who?
John Laurinaitis used to come in Teddy Long's face and laugh and grin.

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TopicTeddy Long says John Laurinaitis used to 'Come in my face and laugh and grin'
Maze_
11/02/23 2:25:40 PM
#1
https://youtu.be/qOufA4FOniU?t=464

I like how he trashes Laurinaitis but then when it comes to Flair he's like "If you have nothing nice to say then say nothing."

You just trashed 2 dudes bro XD

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TopicSkull Island: Rise of Kong = worst game of 2023 apparently
Maze_
10/24/23 7:11:18 AM
#110
Nah

I'm all for championing the virtues of underappreciated failed games

But Gollums hate was absolutely deserved, it fundamentally failed on every level

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TopicSkull Island: Rise of Kong = worst game of 2023 apparently
Maze_
10/17/23 2:42:17 PM
#13
AceMos posted...
https://twitter.com/RickDaSquirrel/status/1714004747848405465
still looks better than Gollum

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TopicHouse Speaker vote topic II
Maze_
10/17/23 2:34:06 PM
#186
Blaming the Democrats when the Republicans have a majority is just insanity
Literally "It's the Dems fault we're so shit!"

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TopicSBAllah is dead
Maze_
10/17/23 2:26:27 PM
#24
Trumble posted...
Why does this post get tagged Lead Moderator but your profile still says Administrator?
It doesn't

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TopicSkull Island: Rise of Kong = worst game of 2023 apparently
Maze_
10/17/23 2:20:10 PM
#5
I don't see how it can possibly beat Gollum

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TopicBest YouTube alternatives.
Maze_
10/17/23 2:16:34 PM
#2
Once upton a time DailyMotion was a decent alternative but Christ almighty did that site drop off

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TopicIsrael bombs hospital, 500+ dead.
Maze_
10/17/23 2:14:26 PM
#44
CommonStar posted...
Western media literally manufacturing consent.

BBC tweeted this 24 hours prior:
https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1713936586411311331
"WRE' JUST ASKING QUESTIONS!"

Jesus Christ....

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TopicI'm convinced that nobody remembers what 2008 was like
Maze_
10/17/23 2:03:12 PM
#16
I'd argue there was a bigger socetial shift post 2001 than post 2008

But you're right in that the explosion of Social Media has totally changed the world.

The future is going to be insane.

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TopicChop Suey! but it's one beat off.
Maze_
09/22/23 12:54:46 PM
#1
https://youtu.be/guklDEpSwhk?si=OaChu4f5cF_QMyiT

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TopicReady to feel old CE? Numa Numa is old enough to drink and have kids.
Maze_
09/06/23 11:34:50 AM
#1
https://youtu.be/Cqd1Gvq-RBY?si=4__NZJKi6vpBne9h

Gary Brolsma's video, entitled "Numa Numa Dance", was released on December 6, 2004, on the website Newgrounds.com under the username "Gman250"


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TopicPro-Wrestling Piranha Death match from 1996 Japan
Maze_
09/05/23 12:41:36 PM
#1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8JGvHOXegY

The 90s were insane

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"Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage.
TopicTerry Funk's grandfather shot 11 peopIe.
Maze_
09/03/23 10:00:19 PM
#5
cjsdowg posted...
How about a time stamp.
3:50

I actually linked the "Jump too" part in the OP but it's not working.

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TopicDenver to pay $4.7 million settlement to arrested 2020 BLM protesters
Maze_
09/03/23 2:42:00 PM
#4
Tenlaar posted...
Seems fair


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TopicBlack Conservatives and White Liberals (45 minutes)
Maze_
09/03/23 2:33:06 PM
#31
FolkenRawr posted...
Okay, what's the difference?

I'm being super broad here but vaguely

Conservatives idealogy: Small government, intense focus on indivudual and local/state goverment rights, personal and religious freedom, low taxes, minimal international intervention, intense rule of law, fiscal responsibility, peace through economic interdependence.

Republican idealogy: Massive government supporting the 1%, restricton of personal rights, integreation of religion and politics, enormous intervention internationally to support big businsess interests, absolutely no fiscal responsibility whatsoever, proxy wars and destablization to make profits, no enforcement of law whatsoever for "certain" people.

There's really nothing conservative about the current Republican party. The Democrats are far more conservative.

But because the media calls Republican conservative and Democrats liberal, it gets very confusing.

"I'm a fiscal small government conservative who supports Donalds Trump's policies" is an oxymoron.

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TopicBlack Conservatives and White Liberals (45 minutes)
Maze_
09/03/23 2:15:39 PM
#28
Are these black conservatives or black republicans?

Because there is a difference

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TopicCM Punk released by AEW
Maze_
09/03/23 10:44:19 AM
#222
wanderingshade posted...
Punk's side is just going to be "everyone was out to get me" like when he thought not having a limo drive him to Wembley was someone fucking with him, even though public transportation in the UK is easy as shit to find and any grown ass adult can figure it out.
I mean you're kinda intentionally missing the point

He was told there would be a car. There wasn't.
He rang the number he was given. It went no where.
He tried to hire an uber, none were available.

So now you've lied to one of your biggest stars and they're bumming around on the tube while tired and annoyed.

There's no way to spin that that doesn't make AEW look low class. Going "Oh public transport exists!" is pretty silly

You can hate CM Punk with every fibre of you being and spend every night dreaming of all how much pure unbrided rage you have for him and still accept that it makes AEW look super unprofessional that they are so incompetent they can't manage basic travel for their stars.

This isn't Ahmed refusing to leave the hotel until someone orders him a limo.

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TopicYour crush say ''hey ugky, can you help me pull my shorts up, my itch is gone''
Maze_
09/03/23 9:43:06 AM
#18
Poorly posted...
All women are Queens
If she breaths....

She's A THHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!

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TopicCM Punk released by AEW
Maze_
09/02/23 9:21:48 PM
#193
Torgo posted...
I see guys who can cut a promo like Moxley as better,
Wat....

To each their own I guess but Mox has some of the worst promos in the businsess IMO.

At least in the past decade

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TopicCM Punk released by AEW
Maze_
09/02/23 7:52:31 PM
#173
Calwings posted...
https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/168dd2o/dynamite_september_15_2021_cm_punks_comment_about/

A statement that aged like fine wine.
Don't forget

https://youtu.be/nJqaTeRBM2I?si=9UuWDS38QHohBu3N&t=27

And at the time the IWC was furious at Triple H XD

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TopicCM Punk released by AEW
Maze_
09/02/23 7:37:29 PM
#170
Nintendo_Porn posted...


This is the second time a backstage fight involving him has overshadowed a big moment in company history.
Nah I don't buy this

People on the internet like to big themselves up but there's no way Punk whooping Jack Perry's ass and getting fired "overshadows" the Wembley show.

It was an 80,000 seat arena, largest paid audience ever and all that. The backstage drama will be a footnote in 2 months time and AEW will still be talking about Wembley in 16 years if the company still exists.

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TopicCM Punk released by AEW
Maze_
09/02/23 7:34:26 PM
#168
cjsdowg posted...
If Jack was on a construction site..and he was about to do something stupid. And a 20 year vet said hey dont do that. Do you think ppl would care he isn't the boss.
If The Young Bucks were the ones who told Perry not do stupid shit with real glass, all the users in this topic furious at Punk would be praising them up the arse and using it as an example of how intelligent and brilliant the Bucks are.

People get stuck in the mindset of "I like X, so everything they do is perfect" "I dislike Y, so everything they do is awful"

They are no longer nuanced and complicated.

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TopicCM Punk released by AEW
Maze_
09/02/23 7:13:00 PM
#165
ClayGuida posted...
Honestly, if they pushed him after this, I'd probably just stop watching altogether. Rewarding this type of behavior? No thank you.
I mean from a businsess perspective you're right.

But from an entertainment perspective, whatever is the point in not firing the guy and then not using him?

Either shit or get off the pot. Fire Perry (IMO they should) or use him.

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TopicCM Punk released by AEW
Maze_
09/02/23 7:10:59 PM
#163
If they don't fire Perry which it looks like they won't. They should really lean into this

Perry can act like he's the one that kicked Punk out of AEW. Talk like he beat Punk's ass. Maybe call himself the Real World champion. Be absolutely insuffrable about it.

It'd be great. The dude is a natural asshole.

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TopicCM Punk released by AEW
Maze_
09/02/23 7:03:13 PM
#158
Hayame_Zero posted...
She was at the rally, but not the Capitol invasion. Still shitty though.
Still shitty but that's a huge distinction IMO

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TopicCM Punk released by AEW
Maze_
09/02/23 6:57:21 PM
#151
ClayGuida posted...
Uh, did you watch AEW from 2019 to Punk's arrival? Shows with Joey Janella, Kip Sabian, a blonde haired Miro, and Marko Stunt, were not on par with shows with Cole, Punk, Danielson, and whomever else arrived post June 2021.
Not to mention Collision.

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TopicCM Punk released by AEW
Maze_
09/02/23 6:52:03 PM
#147
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


So he thinks CM Punk should be fired for his trasngressions but still is refusing to acknowledge Punk's garbage attitude and transgressions because "he makes the company money"?

Makes perfect sense

I legit can't tell if your gimmick is to purposefully make the weakest and strangest arguments you can but I've never seen you make a well thought out post.


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TopicCM Punk released by AEW
Maze_
09/02/23 6:50:03 PM
#146
Heavy_D_Forever posted...
The only people who thought the show was better with Punk were hardcore Punk stans. AEW fans enjoy the majority of the roster. Losing Punk is a win for actual AEW fans.
Well that's great for "Actual AEW Fans"

And no true Scotsman would disagree with that logic.

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TopicCM Punk released by AEW
Maze_
09/02/23 6:49:05 PM
#144
RobertMuldoon posted...
These fans ignore their favorites' horrible political views as well like the Bucks hating Obama and calling him a socialist and especially Chris Jericho being a huge Trumper who had Don Jr. on his podcast and donated money to the Trump 2020 campaign.
As a Kane fan, this stuff really stings.

I think Jericho's wife literally was at Jan 6th too.

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TopicCM Punk released by AEW
Maze_
09/02/23 6:42:37 PM
#140
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


His very first sentence was "I said they should fire Punk"

I legit can't tell if your gimmick is to purposefully make the weakest and strangest arguments you can but I've never seen you make a well thought out post.

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TopicCM Punk released by AEW
Maze_
09/02/23 6:41:20 PM
#139
ClayGuida posted...


My issue is that Punk gave us Collision, very likely Rampage, and All In, and despite all that success he's helped the company achieve, people are still so salty about him, they'd be willing to blow the company up, as long as it means he's not there.

That's my issue. I'm an AEW fan. Not a Punk fan. Not a Bucks fan. Not a Kenny fan. A company fan. And if these fucks refused to make it work out, so they could all become incredibly rich, and in the end, it could hurt the company, then fuck them, fuck them all.

For the record, I'm a Danielson and Jericho fan, so you can call me a fanboy for them, idgaf, but don't act like I'm some CM Punk fanboy because I want the company he was employed with to be successful.

Punk drew more money to AEW than Jack Perry ever would. Punk helped out AEW more than Jack Perry has ever done. Jack Perry will never amount to anything in this industry because he brings nothing to the table that others do better. Perry was expendable. I don't think Punk was.
To me, all this is one reason why it goes back to being Tony's fault.

He needed to steer the ship for the sake of the company but everyone walked all over him for years and it's held the company back.

Punk is a great asset and the show was better with him. That's now lost.

I mean Vince got Bret and HBK to work together for years. He got Edge and Matt Hardy to do a whole program. Dude hired Eric Bischoff to be on screen on Raw just because he knew it would be good TV.

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TopicCM Punk released by AEW
Maze_
09/02/23 6:36:04 PM
#135
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


I4NRulez posted...
I went to PWB to search "Cornette" and sure enough its our boy Maze_ making almost all the topics about him.

Stop wasting your time with him.

Ferroseed posted...
remember when i talked about how clayguida got mad at damar hamlin for almost dying on the football field because he thought itd mess with the playoff chances of the bengals or whatever team hes obsessed with?

yeah

clay is consistently not a good person

3 back to back posts ignoring every point raised, having absolutely no counterpoints whatsoever and going all out (no pun intended) on Ad hominems.

That says a helluva lot.

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TopicCM Punk released by AEW
Maze_
09/02/23 6:33:03 PM
#132
WrestlinFan posted...


Y'all act like Punk only has a problem with those guys, when he's also publicly bashed Mox and Jericho off the top of my head. He's made enemies out of just about everyone in AEW and you're still gullible enough to think he isn't the root of the problem?

Yes.

Tony Khan is the root of the problem. Not Punk

And going "Cody and the divas don't count" kinda says a lot about your mindset. You know most of the information from the dirtsheets is coming from The Elite, Matt Hardy and Jericho.

All of the people who spoke about the Elite bursting into Punk's lockerroom a while back all turned out to not have been there.

I think it's pretty wild to claim there's no drama outside Punk and the boys act like children but only around Punk and also everything else doesn't count.

I don't even disagree that Khan deserves a share of the blame but Punk absolutely signed his own death warrant.

Oh yeah, I'm not disagreeing. Tony should have fired Punk. He should have fired Punk and the Bucks yonks ago.

And he should have fired Punk and Perry today.

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TopicCM Punk released by AEW
Maze_
09/02/23 6:28:28 PM
#123
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


No

I read

Also lmao "cost AEW tons of money"

How much was AEW struggling the entire past year Punk was on the shelf

And asked if you realized that even if AEW is making money, they'd make more if Punk was active.

I never said anything about

CM Punk is this insane asset that will cause AEW to lose millions of dollars and drop monumentally in ratings,

Which was a quote you made up as a bizarre strawman.

You're literally doing a whole "OMG reading comprehension!" thing and then changing your own quotes. It's bizarre.

The tweet is more relevant to you

This is what I was talking about earlier. I legit cannot tell if your gimmick is just to be as bad faith, constant projection and making the weakest/strangest points possible or if it's not a gimmick and that's just what you're like.

Either way it's bad. Stop it.

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TopicCM Punk released by AEW
Maze_
09/02/23 6:23:42 PM
#113
I4NRulez posted...
I said for the start of AEW they were important draws outside of WWE. TK needed them

and saying they are the fault of the ratings drop is as stupid as saying The Miz is the reason the WWE ratings bump.
WWE ratings don't consistently go down every time Miz is on screen and go back up every time Miz's segment is over.
And no one is claiming Miz is a draw...

You're claiming Young Bucks are a draw but people tune out and won't pay to see them. That doesn't make sense....

You can like a dude without pretending they're a draw.
I love Shane Helms but that dude couldn't sell out the local church.

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TopicCM Punk released by AEW
Maze_
09/02/23 6:20:48 PM
#108
WrestlinFan posted...
Why is the blame shifted absolutely everywhere but towards Punk?

I kinda feel the opposite TBH XD

I feel like everyone wants to blame Punk for half the AEW roster acting like Children and Tony doing nothing about it.

Punk deserves blame, Hangman deserves blame, The Elite Deserve blame, probably a whole bunch of people we don't know publically deserve blame.

But most of all, Tony deserves blame. The buck (no pun intended) stops with him and he let the Lunatics run the aslyum for years. It made him look terrible and unprofessional.

Remember when Alberto Del Rio punched out a dude in catering? Vince didn't give him a paid suspension and then put the world title on him.

But Vince did bring him back over a year later for a 2nd chance when things had blown over.

That's how you do it. That's what should have happened to The Bucks, Perry and Punk.

AEW was never thought to have a toxic locker room til Punk came along, how freaking odd of a coincidence is that.

I guess you haven't been following the stuff about the Divas.
Or Cody quitting

Punk's just the first guy the dirtsheet are happy to bury since he doesn't talk to them.

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TopicCM Punk most likely done with AEW
Maze_
09/02/23 6:13:39 PM
#21
StealThisSheen posted...
I'm not saying anything absolutely will come of it, I'm just saying there is a clear potential difference in Khan's opinion when it comes to somebody else being attacked, versus when it's literally himself being lunged at.

Sometimes things don't truly hit home until you're the one being targeted.

But by all means, you could be right. Khan could be that much of a shill to the point where he'll ignore it. I'm just saying there's a definite difference between now and then.
Hopefully this helps Tony be quicker on firing people in future

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TopicCM Punk released by AEW
Maze_
09/02/23 6:12:39 PM
#99
I4NRulez posted...


That AEW as a company sucks?

So if I'm following your logic

The Young Bucks are draws and vital to AEW
But when they are used heavily, Ticket Sales and TV ratings plummet
But this just proves they are draws because AEW sucks.

And at no part of this do you consider that regardless of if you personally like them or not, The Bucks can't draw money with Green Crayon as Arn Anderson would say.

I can't agree with that at all. It's not following any logic.

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TopicCM Punk released by AEW
Maze_
09/02/23 6:09:22 PM
#96
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]



I never said that or anything like it....

I legit can't tell if your gimmick is to purposefully make the weakest and strangest arguments you can but I've never seen you make a well thought out post.

you make a comparison to a year that WWE had tons of star power- (including only what, the third biggest star its ever had in The Rock) and

So in other words, a guy can still make money for a company even if the company can still make money when they are away?

Ya know, the thing that I said.

then a weird strawman that doesn't even make a lick of sense in response to what I posted.

You did the strawman. You just flat out made up a bunch of stuff I never said.

I legit can't tell if your gimmick is to purposefully make the weakest and strangest arguments you can but I've never seen you make a well thought out post.

And you say I make the worst arguments. Lol.

Yes


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TopicCM Punk released by AEW
Maze_
09/02/23 6:06:48 PM
#92
I4NRulez posted...
but indy wrestling wouldnt be what it is without them.
I don't think that's true

And I also think it's a bad thing if it is true XD

I4NRulez posted...


The Bucks are draws whether you like them or not. They are a huge draw.

Well just saying they are a draw over and over sure makes it true.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alfredkonuwa/2022/10/04/aew-ticket-sales-struggle-mightily-in-q4-2022/

How are they a draw? AEW ticket sales are dropping and ratings drop everytime they are on it.

So less people watching TV and less people going to see the show = draw?

I mean what metric are you using?


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When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner.
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TopicCM Punk released by AEW
Maze_
09/02/23 6:03:27 PM
#87
CRON posted...
What could AEW do to improve ratings at this point?

Good matches, exciting storylines, promoting young talent, not having terrible booking and garbage hardcore matches. Actually build stuff.

Powerhouse Hobbs could be a star right now. He isn't.
FTR could be the biggest tag team in wrestling. They aren't.
How about for the last year instead of a hundred pointless Bucks or Mox segments that went no where and lasts 20 minutes you gave Miro something to do?

I mean I don't even have the list but how many storylines or hot stars have gone cold over the past few years? How many times have you rolled your eyes at an AEW show?

They're trying to be WWE lite and it's failed.

If WWF had spent the 90s keeping Austin and Rock on the backburner while they kept using Mabel and Luger, the ratings would stagnate too. You need to evolve. Be prepared to take a chance and leave the guys you wanted to be on top behind.

But Tony can't do that because those guys are his "friends."

They don't really have any draw, Punk included. The Elite are synonymous with the brand but don't push the ratings in a positive direction. It's not like everything's getting worse, as each show has been doing the same numbers consistently for a while.

And consistently the ratings go down every Young Bucks segment no matter where it is on the show.

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When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner.
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TopicCM Punk released by AEW
Maze_
09/02/23 5:58:13 PM
#82
I4NRulez posted...
He made them EVPs because outside of CM Punk they were the biggest stars outside of WWE wrestling and he saw how well their All In show did.

Khan needed the bucks more than the bucks needed TK

That...doesn't add up at all.

Omega? Sure. Cody? Fair enough. But the Bucks? AEW would be identical today if they were never hired, let alone not given huge contracts and made EVPs.

And that completely sideswipes the contract extentions.

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Well they were still selling Punk merch that whole time

And "They're making money so it doesn't matter if they could have made more" is an odd argument.

I legit can't tell if your gimmick is to purposefully make the weakest and strangest arguments you can but I've never seen you make a well thought out post.

WWF made record profit in 2000 (that wan't beatem until 2018) in a year where The Undertaker and Steve Austin spent half the year on the shelf.

Do you think Undertaker and Austin never made money for WWF because they still made a ton when they got hurt?

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