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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXvFG9IFW-I

Ostensibly so.

It's coming guyz

pegusus123456 posted...

They've not said so, but it's obviously going to be. The trailer confirms both Doctor Octopus and Green Goblin. The fact that both the trailer and this poster has sand and lightning all but confirms Electro and Sandman are in it. I think we know Lizard is in it, but I don't remember where that was confirmed. All of them together, it wouldn't surprise me if Vulture shows up again too.

It's Rhino, not Vulture.

jeez, dont you people follow the news? It's already been confirmed. Lizard AND Rhino.

Makes no sense and no hype if they're gonna bring back a MCU villain so early. There's even people claiming venom is in it *facepalM*

homo

It's slowly happening.

Their meteoric rise.

PHASE 1:
It starts by an economic-driven nature. Lure all the big companies in. Pull their sockets. Force them to abide by their propaganda policies like proclaiming Taiwan as part of China and surrendering unfair tax rates to the CCP.

PHASE 2:
Then it's academic in nature. Send their brainwashed citizens overseas to study at top universities so they can speak good Engrish and influence the western imperialist foreigners to convert to peaceful Marxism. We saw this happening prominently in Australia and Singapore among the large Chinese community living there

PHASE 3:
Then it's politic in nature. Offer to start ventures in poor countries to 'help' the people there, when in fact the CCP is just bribing the local governments and installing puppets into these countries and slowly crushing their economies into massive debt. Expand their influence into the world organisations like UN so they can veto whatever s*** they want together with Russia.

PHASE 4:
Then now, it's international warfare time. Steal the US' military technology, spy on them, build up the People's Liberation (oppression) Army. Then takeover Hong Kong (DONE). Takeover the South China Sea (done). Takeover Africa (in progress). Takeover Taiwan next (coming soon). Takeover Southeast Asia.
They can start using military force and no one would retaliate.

THE WORLD DOMINATION:
The US would be bent broken by Kanye West being president and their crippling massive debt. Big corporations wont give two s****ts because they're too invested in China already. China's entire population has been so brainwashed everyone is now eager to volunteer for miltiary conscription or to be a Wumao internet warrior. Old gen people would have been brainwashed into Marxism = good. Young people would have been brainwashed by Tiktok. China has no opposition left. They've destroyed the only superpower left against them, the USA, from within. They've brainwashed the rest of the world into reshaping their view of ethics by thinking China is in the right. They've completely dominated the world.

Mark my words. Gonna happen over the next couple of decades

Crono99 posted...

Like Vegeta from DBZ or actually Vegy from CE?

unless the shirt says 'Vegy from CE', I've no idea how the latter works

Prestoff posted...

I like AiB as well, but the live action show sucks because the actors are too hammy in their performances. It becomes more distracting than anything. Sometimes acting like an anime character in real life doesn't translate that well. I felt Squid games actors felt more "grounded" in their acting hence why I feel more invested in them. It's the same problem I had when watching the live action version of Battle Royale.

With that said, AiB is interesting because the games are interesting. You're trying to figure out how to beat the games with the protagonists. Squid Games is more about symbolism and the large disparity from the rich and the poor (mostly aimed at South Korea, but totally applicable anywhere). Very simliar to movies like Parasite and Snowpiercer. I think what made SG have a better chance is that because the games are more digestable, it's easier to follow along than AiB where the games sometimes get overly complex where most of the time.

Both are great, but I suggest reading AiB than watching the live action version imo.

The problem is Squid Game's theme has been done to death already. Yeah, there's an economic disparity in society...who knew. I thought Parasite gave a good portrayal of that already. We dont need yet another theme tacked on it. So will the next Korean Netflix blockbuster be about economic disparity again? And the next?

This is why Koreans lack creativity, man. They're too damn practical.

I like AiB as well, but the live action show sucks because the actors are too hammy in their performances. It becomes more distracting than anything. Sometimes acting like an anime character in real life doesn't translate that well.

I actually felt AiB is way more grounded in acting. In SG, the MC and some characters like the lady acts all over-the-top by shouting and screaming over the most minor things. Maybe it's a k-drama thing, IDK... but why are people only accusing AiB for being anime-like then? If anything the live-action AiB already tries its hardest not to be anime-like. The manga itself is also very much grounded and never follows any anime tropes, apart from Chisaya initially being a perv.

I also really love the theme of AiB, since I've never actually seen a manga do it before. It's very philosophical, something I rarely see in a manga. The death games genre isnt new but this is the FIRST time I've seen an author willing to look deeper into the genre introspectively and bring into the philosophy of life-and-death itself. How much are you willing to sacrifice for yourself or would you do it for others? Why do you want to live for in the first place? Is it wrong to be selfish? What is right and wrong anyway, in a world without laws?

If you read the final chapter, you'd know this is the theme the author maintains consistent with from beg. to end. The whole manga gives a life lesson on introspecting life itself and what it truly means to you. This author is not just a good artist, he has the bits and pieces of knowledge in almost all areas of academics, from philosophy to psychological to maths to economics and game theory to even survival knowledge etc. Probably because he actually went to university unlike most mangaka that only go to art school...

Honestly the most talented manga author ever

CyricZ posted...

He's bullshitting them. The workers aren't necessarily in on the greater grift. They're just workers.

Also you said that there's nothing more to cover in a second season and I think there's one thing I'd like to know.

What are the circumstances that lead to the cop's brother, winner of a previous game, to become the Front Man?

Isnt it already revealed in the end? He does it because he agrees with the old men. It's a good way to bring poor desperate people to have a chance at winning big. At the same time, a good way to weed out the poor people (rationale same as in The Purge)

It's done out of formality too, as seen with how each participant needed to sign a contract and were also given a second chance to quit.

You dont need one whole new season just for that

CyricZ posted...

Oh yeah also...

Complaining the games aren't fair isn't a point against SG. (minor Squid Game SPOILERS) The games aren't supposed to be fair. They're supposed to be entertaining for those watching them. That's part of the theme of the entire show. That's why they'll introduce luck or slightly change the stakes in some games, because all their claims of how the games should be fair is complete bullshit.

So what's with the Front Man complaining how he wants things to be fair when he shot the staff worker?

CyricZ posted...

Wow some real "I'm salty AiB didn't do as well" energy here.

Like this topic could have been "If you like Squid Game, watch AiB" not some attempt to put down Squid Game over "things that are better" by your claim alone.

Furthermore:

This is a baloney argument. If someone gave it a chance and bounced off, that doesn't mean they're not allowed to criticize to that level. It means the other show held their interest on its own merits, not just of content, but also on acting, cinematography, and general presentation.

And lastly, pretending Squid Game is a rip-off of "As the Gods Will" is hooey. Your only connection to it is "death game" plus "red light, green light". AtGW is an entirely different story of high school students being forced to play the games, whereas in Squid Game everyone chose to play the game, which is a MASSIVE shift in the overall tone and theme of the show compared to others like it.

The main theme is still on children's games. Also it's not just Red Light Green Light but also the Tug of War game.

Narrowing it down, there arent actually many games left in SG

All the games required tactics which you could use, compared to just relying on dumb luck like in SG.

coolpal23 posted...

Well I mean I watched the first couple of games in AiB

the first one I thought didnt make sense, it was still 50 50 and if you didnt know the layout of the building you're fucked full stop

The first game isn't actually in the manga but it does provide better entertainment IMO. It relies on observation and remembering the layout of the building. And...

and if you didnt know the layout of the building you're fucked full stop

Yes, that's the point. You're supposed to always think ahead and always be observant even before the game.

The second game, was more luck, and going up against a gun seemed pretty straightforward to me

No, again, strategy. Chisaya just camped at the corner of a building where he could have a bird's eye view of everything and see when the tagger approached. It also made sense because the tagger would start from a lower level first.
To win the game, you cant just run around mindlessly trying every single door. It was better to observe the tagger under the good assumption the tagger would know where the room is.

the third one was just unneccesarily cruel, left a bad tastew in my mouth, definitely didn't like that one

It could actually be solved without anyone dying. Lots of theories floating about but the author has made it clear (in the manga), ALL the hearts games can be solved with not a single participant dying. That's what I find so ingenious (read if you wanna find out). There's the 9 of hearts and 2 of hearts games the show didnt include. The jack of hearts (best freaking backstabbing game ever) and queen of hearts will likely be seen in season 2, depending how they go about it.

the last one I saw with the running, was really dumb, how did they not see "goal" on the bus right at the beginning?

Again, observation. The distance is meant to show how far you're AWAY from the goal, not toward the goal and the game rules are always absolute and consistent with this. It's not like Squid Game where the Front Man can suddenly choose to f*** all the participants up mid-way like he did in the Bridge game. That was really stupid and unfair.

AiB's games to me didnt seem complex, moreso very much luck based, and I'm not down for that

Wait till season 2 or read the manga's face games if you think it isnt complex enough. Especially the King of Clubs and King of Diamonds.

bulletproofvita posted...

It is, Squid game is far superior.

no that's because you never watched fully.

edit: anyway looking back, i can see how AiB may not appeal to everyone since the games can get quite complicated at times. That's the beauty of it but sadly most people prefer shallow s*** like 'guess which glass is gonna break hehe'

toyota posted...

i watched the first ep.

it just reminded me of this anime watched called Kaiji ultimate survivor where the yakuza captures a bunch of gambling degenerates and have them participate in similar games with similar stakes.

it felt like kind of the same premise so im not sure if i should continue becase i felt like i have already experienced this type of show

I think what AiB stands out in is the variety of games. The games range from everything, not just card or gambling games. There's plain outright action, intellectual mind-numbing games and best of all are the Heart games, that really works a lot on the game theory aspect. If you want to get the full experience the manga has a lot more to offer since the author side tracks a lot to feature all the possible games out there. And every single game is unforgiving as hell.

coolpal23 posted...

This

Also, I watched AiB 2 days ago, dropped it 5 episodes in because it felt so dull compared to Squid Game

Honestly the only people I hear not feeling the show are those that never even watched it through. Watch to the end and make your judgment again.

Of course the show isnt for everyone either. It's really a matter of whether you're interested in smart intellectual games or just mindless luck games mixed with typical korean soap drama

UnfairRepresent posted...

It's a good show with great sets, fantastic directing/editing, wonderful use of color, good acting

That has relatable yet entertaining people in ridiclously captivating scenarios...

Even if you don't like it, how can you not see why it's so popular?

What I mean is compared to a show like AiB, Squid Game shouldn't be more popular by quality alone.

Of course this isnt taking into account chance marketing, word-of-mouth, koreanboo syndrome nowadays etc.

MedeaLysistrata posted...

You don't see the appeal of seeing desperate people struggle?

bruh you'd love AiB then. The show shows true desperation to survive the impossible games

The show is good but not THAT good. All the games are just plain luck or mindless fighting instead of any tactics required (only one I liked was the tug-of-war) and the whole premise is really just a ripoff from the movie/manga, As Gods Will. Literally the first game in As Gods Will is Red Light Green Light and the theme is also on people being forced to play children's game. I also hate how Netflix pushed for a 2nd season even though it's so damn obvious this was meant to be one season only by itself.

They literally killed off all the characters and explained everything about the game and the premise. What more do you want?

Also the popularity makes no sense when you have a much superior show, Alice in Borderland that hardly even have an ounce of that viewership, and that show was released way earlier. To those that haven't watched (which are obviously the casual majority), please watch Alice in Borderlands. For reference, I watched Squid Game first, thought it was the best thing ever... and then I watched Alice in Borderlands and realized now why fans kept saying AiB is better. Because it really is. The games in AiB are actually mindful and very very very hard yet crazy interesting. Comparing the games to that of Squid Game is like comparing a tiger to a cat.

I guess Squid Game only got more popular due to K-drama bias and korean hype. Or maybe people only liked games that dont require much brain cells to process. All you need is the influence from the media and social influencers to contribute to the overpouring, and needless...excessive success and social media spoofs to come along.

I dont care.

Doesnt affect us.

Why should we care

GFAQs only has a Movies at theatre and Movies Home Media (DVD) board, which are outdated as hell nowadays. How is there no board at all for streaming services like HBO Max, Netflix, Disney+ etc.??

No, the study is completely true.

It's like this board doesnt read world news, which well, isnt surprising.

The vaccine does NOT prevent you from being infected and infecting others. Israel and Singapore, both with incredibly high vacc' rates of over 80%, experienced enormous covid surges regardless.

However, the no. of people suffering from severe effects from the virus did decrease significantly due to the vaccine.

I think Holland plays the most perfect Peter Parker. Anyone who read the comics know he's most truest the character, by being both comedic as Spider-man and rather awkward as Parker.

Andrew Garfield plays Parker too cool. Hardly socially awkward at all. His Spiderman 2 costume is the most comics-accurate and coolest though

Maguire was well.. just playing a very very generic but perfect version of a superhero persona. Nothing like the comic Spider-man but likeable to many who never read the Spider-man comics back then. Maguire was easy to emphatise with, symphatise with and respect for how he personified everything about a superhero

NinjaWarrior455 posted...

I haven't watched AiB so can't comment but Squid Game isn't about the death games themselves but why these people are participating in the death games and the factors in and out of their control that brought them to that point.

yeah, that's what AiB does as well which makes it so good. It's not just about the games but actually about the characters too.

Squid Game is more superficial but grounded by focusing on the economic disparity, but it's really done to death already in so many korean shows, including the recent Parasite. Koreans are practical in that sense, but they don't seem to be taught to look as inwardly.

In AiB, the backstories are a lot more varied because everyone is sent to the Borderlands with no explained reason (until you read the ending) but snippets of their past is shown that perfectly defines each character to their very core personality and values. This matters a lot especially for the Heart games (which are psychological in nature) since a lot of it involves influencing and outsmarting one another and sacrificing lives.

I also call SG superficial because the theme focused in AiB (at least in the manga later on) is a lot more philosophical as characters soon struggle with the meaning of their lives from being ostracised from society to finding redemption of their past actions. The author weaves character motivations in such a way where even the worst villain can later turn out to be someone you'd root or cry for.

AP3Brain posted...

Seen it. It's not better and pretty different. AiB is like a poor man's Gantz.

Gantz is just mindless killing. AiB is about tactics, outsmarting or gaining trust and trying to break the game mechanics by finding loopholes. The games are at least miles...no, leagues above that of Squid Game. I have a feeling you didnt even watch till the final episode if you can so much as say that

And if you read the manga, the Face Card games ups the ante like crazy. Very psychological based, especially the Jack of Hearts and King of Diamonds. But what's most impressive is the never-ending creativity of this one single author coming up with so many games

Also while I'm at it, I'd like to introduce you guys to this much much better show called ALICE IN BORDERLAND.

That actually has a planned season 2 because it's a very much intended continuation of the original show.

NinjaWarrior455 posted...

Hwang is the frontman and former winner of the games.

Whoops. Didnt realize that.

I thought you meant the actress

But honestly apart from the Front Man's intentions, there's basically no plot mystery left covered in the 1st season. It was clearly meant to be one full season and only one season on its own. The producers even admitted they had no damn idea for a 2nd season. The ending was meant to just be an impromptu thing

Touch posted...

They have Gi Hun and more likely than not the cop who had the "off screen death". If I had to guess, next season will be a new batch/crop of players featuring a new MC, with Gi Hun and Cop being a major side story trying to take down the organization...in a more effective way than the cop was trying to do solo lol

I don't see any reasonable way the cop could fall from that height and live.

Secondly, I dont think the Front Man is as stupid as to just shoot the guy and walk away without confirming the death.

All these feel like dumb excuses just to fit into a season 2

NinjaWarrior455 posted...

They can maybe do a prequel series about Hwang In-ho or how the games started. I agree the best thing to do would be to leave it at one season but with the massive popularity and potential truckloads of money it's hard to turn down.

But then it'd have nothing to do with Squid Game.
Plus her backstory was more or less explored already.

g0ldie posted...

tbf, we still see them recruiting new people to play during the last episode.

The problem is, audiences developed a bond with the existing cast of characters. For instance, a lot of people liked player 67 (or whatever her number is... i forgot) .But her fame is short-lived 'cos she's dead now lol

...all of the characters except for the MC.

It was initially planned as one cohesive season only, on its own, which explains the sensible story. But now with the popularity of the series, the producers have decided to go along with a 2nd seaosn anyway

https://youtu.be/JK-F2rsNeIk

Keaton is doing the narration of the trailer!!

Seriously, ya'll gotta read the manga.

All the games are so incredibly smart and never ends how you think it'll end. I dont even know how the author comes up with all these mindblowing s****.

If you think the Hearts game in the Netflix show was brutal, there's around 3 more crazy Hearts games showed in the manga (including 1 more in the sequel manga Re-entry)

Mr_Karate_II posted...

But it's not nearly as good as it is in L4D.

This game has a lot of issues

that's your opinion, man. Dont say it doesnt have versus. That's outright misleading

Anyway why dont you think it's as good as L4D's versus?

Mackorov posted...

First economically. Second politically.

Then China proceeds to spread their Marxist ideology and slowly try to undermine states by installing puppet governments in third-world countries already strife with political instability.

Lastly, world domination.

Mackorov posted...

Who said anything about WAR?

China will completely overtake USA economically. That's how WARS are fought in the modern world. Not 'bang! bang! boom boom!!'

You people thinking this is about military might is exactly why China will overtake y'all.

The brain drain in intelligence will be the first.

First economically. Second politically.

Then China proceeds to spread their Marxist ideology and slowly try to undermine states by installing puppet governments in third-world countries already strife with political instability.

Lastly, world domination.

MrDrMan posted...

No country in the world has the resources to invade the mainland United States.

Who said anything about WAR?

China will completely overtake USA economically. That's how WARS are fought in the modern world. Not 'bang! bang! boom boom!!'

im not 13 posted...

Lmao what? No 4v4 at all?

What's the point buying it then

WTF is this guy on?

There IS A VERSUS mode. @Hexenherz Don't lie, man. Not cool.

is it worth the sixty bucks

Interviewer: "so why are you gey?"
Interviewee: who says I'm gey?
Interviewer: "you are gey."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBZIvGe2jLo

Mr_Karate_II posted...

It's a mess right now,achievements are locked behind multiplayer,game is buggy at times,AI Bots aren't that great.

The game isn't worth $60

what AI isnt great? They're zombies, what else is there to expect lol

https://store.steampowered.com/app/924970/Back_4_Blood/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkP8dOQrIyk

this looks whacking wild

looks like the L4D2 devs said f*** Valve, we'll make our own sequel.

Thank you, turtle rock studios.

skermac posted...

Im a man but anyone is free to be what they want imo

If you wanna identify as non-conforming to your biological gender, yea sure go ahead.

But thinking of GENDER itself like something fluid is really ignorant. Gender is biological, it's literally right here. Males are meant to reproduce with females. There's not a single species on earth that does not do this (apart from some species where the females reproduce on their own, even so.. their male counterparts still exist and serve a purpose).

Gender is not psychological, it's right there and right here. It's physical and it's biological.

Do you have a dick? Yes? Then YOU ARE A MALE.
Do you have a vagina instead? Yes? Then YOU ARE A FEMALE.

EVERY animal...insect...plant...SPECIES on earth are divided into only males and females. This is completely innate in us.

The feeling of not feeling your gender is out of non-conformity to societal culture of what is expected of male/female like being musculine, strong, attractive etc. All these are just psychological whammy which eventually leads you to wondering the meaning of your life or some crap.

But at the very evolutionary core, males are meant to impregnate females. THE END

Arcanine2009 posted...

I mean the only other option that I forgot to mention is meeting people through friend of friends. That's also really a common way for people to date and get married.

Also the easiest way.

Unfortunately if you dont have many friends, you're f***ing screwed and stuck with dating apps

Metalsonic66 posted...

It took me nearly half the show to make the connection that Arisu = Alice in Engrish

Many of the characters' names have AiW connections when translated

Usagi - Rabbit
Hatter - Mad Hatter
Chishiya - Chesire cat
Jabberwock - Last boss
Kuina - Caterpillar
Queen of Hearts - Final boss in the manga

What_ posted...

What_

read the manga and you'll understand

https://readmanganato.com/manga-mv951478/chapter-45

The most underrated manga I've ever read in my entire life.

How hardly anyone outside of Japan read this is mindblowing.

Like seriously, y'all gotta read this s*** man. I know the TV show is gonna adapt from the manga and I just read the whole thing.

The face card games are absolutely ingenious madness. The Jack of Hearts is essentially werewolf suiting for psychopaths to play.

I also started from Chapter 1 where I could compare to the Netflix adaptation. It's honestly a hell lot more better. The characters are more likeable, esp. the MC who isn't a no-life gamer like he's portrayed in the tv show. Or like the first woman they encounter is actually a decent person and not a snobby traitor like shown in the tv show

The 2nd segment of games is where they play against the face cards.

And boy is it so f****ing good. The games are less but each game is so damn amazing. Like holy s***. I dont know how the author comes up with these stuff but these games are insanely ingenious.

I just got to the Jack of Hearts part where it takes place in a prison. Suffice to say, it's the best thing I've ever read in a long time. If not, ever.

definitely skyrim.

It practically made up a big part of my life growing up as a no-life loser back then