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Paratroopa1 posted...

actually it looks like golem-a and jangmo-o were switched on EVERYONE'S lists. please fix

I just pinged Steiner to alert him to this issue.
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My last 2 Pokemon:

26 and 29
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Inviso posted...

I'm predicting Mimikyu is out next. I just see it having too much potential for hate compared to the other two (especially since it's still Ermine's 97 or something, so that's a huge chunk of the score already.)

Mimikyu will also be very low on Nick's list as well.
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Xuxon posted...

Karo has always hated birds

I don't think that's true, because Karo had Oricorio high on his list.
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My remaining Pokemon:

26
29
55


STElNER posted...

PrinceKaro: Though useless in most other ways, Rowlet will give you 3 experience points if you brutally kick it between two upright poles.

Oh no, Karo. I'm really disappointed you put Rowlet so low on your list because it's cute and you generally like cute stuff just like I do.
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STElNER posted...

Luster Soldier: In the past, Grass starters in each generation have faced a serious uphill battle to receive majority support for their respective generation. Back in Gen I, the starter battle was between Charmander and Squirtle, with Bulbasaur being a distant third place (sorry Bulbasaur fans). There is a sizable minority that always pick the Fire starter since their first starter was Charmander, or those who always pick Water since their first starter was Squirtle. Because of this, future Grass starters were at a disadvantage because their ""guaranteed"" fanbase was much smaller than the Fire and Water starters.

For a Grass starter to get the majority support for a specific generation, it comes down to 2 main factors - a Grass starter with a great design, plus the other 2 starters being a disappointment upon reveal to win the support of people who have no specific preference for any starter type. The reveal of Rowlet was the first time this trend would be defied. Some people made their choice immediately upon reveal, which is why it's a good thing that Rowlet impressed people upon the initial reveal. The later reveals of the evolutions also helped out Rowlet's cause, since the official reveal of Incineroar didn't really impress too many people on the Fire side and the same for Brionne/Primarina on the Water side for being too feminine.

There's a mistake in my write-up. I only intended for one set of quotation marks to be placed around the word "guaranteed", not two sets of quotation marks. I'm guessing a second set of quotation marks might have been added as a result of Steiner copying the write-up from my spreadsheet submission and pasting it into the post message area (or somewhere else like Notepad or another program).
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STElNER posted...

Paratroopa1: well lycanroc is kind of really like two different pokemon so I sorta had to split the difference. lycanroc part 1 is a cool but sort of boring wolf. lycanroc part 2 reminds me too much of some kind of terrible sonic character or some shit. one would probably be about 50 and one would probably be about 90 so I met somewhere in the middle. and now because I'm thinking of wolves PART 3 is where I link to WOLF: THE ANIMATED FEATURE and you watch it

Midday form would be like 20 on my list and Midnight form about 60 instead. Average those out, and that's how I have Lycanroc at 40 on my list.
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Zigzagoon posted...

Are you surprised? B8 has a super hard on for Ghost and Dark types.

And yet that didn't seem to save Lunala here and help put it above Solgaleo.
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Paratroopa1 posted...

actually it looks like golem-a and jangmo-o were switched on EVERYONE'S lists. please fix

Yeah, I see it's the same with my list too. I probably wouldn't have noticed it because they're so close to each other on my list.
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VeryInsane posted...

Wouldn't be surprised if more Alolan Forms were made for Ultra Sun/Moon

I remember someone on 4chan trying to pass off some info on Ultra Sun/Moon and presenting it as a leak, with one of the claims being Alolan Forms for Gen II Pokemon. The leak has the look of being fake.

The only credible leaks for Sun/Moon were the Chinese leaks, which gave us the final starter evolutions. There's also someone known as the Chinese Riddler, who gave out clues on future Pokemon that haven't been revealed yet.
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My remaining Pokemon:

19
26
29
40
55
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I'm surprised Rockruff wasn't Ermine's #1, since I saw an image a while back of Ermine's updated top 30 and Rockruff was #2 behind Zigzagoon.
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ScepterOfLove posted...

I think Lycanroc wins. Two separately popular Pokémon combined in one entry should boost them both. For instance, I would have ranked one form high and the other near the middle, but since they're one entry the one I like less got a super high ranking. I imagine other people voted similarly

I took both forms into consideration, which means the inferior form drags down the Pokemon as a whole.
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STElNER posted...

Ermine: My male Ribombee, Ribbon was one of the best members on my team. Super cutie <3

Male? My Ribombee is a female, but that was unintentional since I caught the first Cutiefly that I found.
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Incineroar would have finished above Litten if either lefty or Xuxon (or both of them) didn't submit a list.
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...

A spider just fell into my ass

Bane, that's not possible. For a spider to go into your ass, your asshole has to be wide open for the spider to enter your ass.
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woodman posted...

Rooting for Growls, heavily expect Barks or maybe parrot

XD at NFUN.
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red get his info from the spreadsheet, which hasn't been updated to include the Pokemon revealed at the 11-14 rankings.
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Poll updates and trend charts for yesterday's poll:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17hD1x5dS9w7bqR1BkUHPmUjx_8JBzTIxsz6G8RhEvjE/pub?gid=394477375

"Hash" and "Hashtag" both have relatively similar trends - Awful board vote and Power Hour, strong night vote and early morning vote, and terrible day vote and SNV. Once both "Hash" and "Hashtag" begin dropping off after the morning vote kicks in, both options maintain relatively stable trends for the rest of the poll after 10:00 AM. The difference between the 2 options is where they get their strength from. "Hash" gets most of its support from the UK, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand, while having above average support in other countries outside the US/Canada. "Hashtag" performs best in mainland Europe, an area where "Hash" does not put up the monster numbers seen in places like the UK or Australia. Both options failed to win a single hour over "Pound Sign", probably as a result of fighting for control of the night vote here.

"Number Sign" performs best during the board vote and Power Hour and worst during the night vote and early morning vote, but its day vote never approaches the same strength it had during the Power Hour. At one point in this poll, "Number Sign" built up a lead of 315 votes over "Hashtag" at 2:55 AM. "Hashtag" attempted to cut into this lead, but only cut a maximum of 180 votes off the lead to bring it down to 135 at 7:45 AM before "Number Sign" started pulling away again. "Number Sign" lost a total of 8.74% in this poll, going from 30.43% at 12:10 AM to 21.69% at 12:05 PM, and then gains just 0.57% to finish the poll with 22.26%.

"Pound Sign" has a strong board vote and Power Hour, but performs worst during the night vote and early morning vote. Unlike "Number Sign", it actually has a strong day vote and SNV on par with its Power Hour. "Pound Sign" went from a maximum percentage of 45.67% at 12:20 AM to 36.54% at 7:55 AM, losing a total of 9.13% before it started gaining percentage again. From its minimum percentage of 36.54%, "Pound Sign" gains a total of 4.29% to finish the poll with a final percentage of 40.83%.

"Sharp" and "Other" both have similar trends - Bad board vote, Power Hour, day vote, and SNV. Both of them perform best during the night vote and early morning vote. "Sharp" appears to get its strength from mainland Europe and a few countries in Asia like the Philippines, Thailand, and Japan. "Other" gets its strength only from mainland Europe, it seems.


Over the course of this poll, here were the changes in percentages from the US:

Hashtag - 14.39% at 12:12 AM, 14.12% at 1:00 AM, 14.54% at 6:00 AM, 14.20% at 9:00 AM, 13.53% at 12:00 PM
Number Sign - 29.55% at 12:12 AM, 25.83% at 1:00 AM, 25.41% at 6:00 AM, 24.58% at 9:00 AM, 23.29% at 12:00 PM
Pound Sign - 49.49% at 12:12 AM, 53.16% at 1:00 AM, 53.30% at 6:00 AM, 54.93% at 9:00 AM, 57.07% at 12:00 PM

The final percentages were fairly close to the percentages at 12:00 PM. So this explains why "Pound Sign" had a day vote and SNV that was roughly on par with its Power Hour. The morning vote has the oldest voters on average and this trend shift shows older voters are more biased towards "Pound Sign" compared to "Number Sign" or "Hashtag". Younger voters were more biased towards "Number Sign" instead.
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Tom
Stifled
Eaed/XIII
Luster
Wigs
CPU
HiaC: DP
HiaC: Sultan
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richisdisturbed posted...

Using 5# instead of 5lbs, America never fails to surprise me with how it uses the English language. I was proper like the fuck when I first saw the poll. I understand now!

You should check out the poll results page and click on the "View Map and Detailed Results" button to bring up a voting map where you can hover over any country to see how they voted. There's a huge difference between the US and the rest of the world. Canada is generally similar to the US on most things.
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mnkbear907 posted...

Pretty sure Ribombee would be a lot lower if people didn't play the game.

Yeah, I think a lot people used it due to most of the new Pokemon being slow. If you wanted a fast Pokemon from the new batch of Pokemon, you were limited to the following - Alolan Raichu, Alolan Ninetales, Alolan Dugtrio, Alolan Persian, Ribombee, Lycanroc (Midday Form only), Salazzle, Comfey, and Minior (Core Form).

Out of those, Comfey is the only one that wouldn't really be a good option for in-game use because of serious movepool issues. I set the cutoff for fast/slow at base 100 speed, but there are some Pokemon like Oricorio, Togedemaru, Mimikyu, Bruxish, Solgaleo, and Lunala that fall into the 90-99 speed range and would still be above average in speed for this slow generation.

Mimikyu, Solgaleo, and Lunala are very viable for in-game use, although Solgaleo/Lunala are limited by being obtained very late in the game. I'm only counting Pokemon obtainable before the Elite Four, so no Tapus or Ultra Beasts.
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Infernape
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OrangeCrush980 posted...

I think a good chunk of the rankers hadn't played the games and are rating mainly on design, which helped out the cute Pokemon and NFEs. If this had been run for the first time 3 years from now, I think the top 10 would be quite a bit different.

I suspect we ran this list a little too early. Sure, 6 months is enough for most people to get around to playing the game, but probably isn't enough time to allow them to properly decide on their favorites. There's still plenty of time left in this generation for the anime, we haven't even done PRBL for Gen VII yet, and there's also new games coming up later this year.

Also, some people didn't fill out a list because they didn't play the games yet, since they were waiting for a third version or sequels before they jump in and play the games. I know MSG didn't even play Sun/Moon yet because he was waiting for a third version or sequels, although he did fill out a list based solely on design alone.
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3, 7
14, 19
26, 29
40, 44, 46
55

The fact I still have a number 3 alive is impressive, since number 2 and 1 had no chance even reaching the top 20.
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mnkbear907 posted...

It was already a crime when Litten beat Torracat.

With extremely few exceptions, you shouldn't expect a middle starter to beat out the first stage or final evolution.

Although a first stage beating out a final evolution also quite rare as well, with Squirtle, Totodile, Snivy, and Fennekin being the previous cases of this happening.
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Whiskey_Nick posted...

what even is this list

I told you, you're out of the loop regarding what's popular and what isn't. In past generations, you had a history of being low in the outlier. Even in Gen VI, you were almost near the bottom of the outlier rankings.

Your declining interest in Pokemon has finally caught up to you and you don't even have a clue what's popular or not popular. You're no longer "Mr. Generic" when it comes to Pokemon opinions, as you're in the Top 10 of the outlier rankings for this generation.
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Damn, I'm actually surprised Incineroar went down already and that Ribombee is making Top 10.
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Bane, the write-up doesn't even give any clues what Pokemon it's even referring to. It's so non-specific that the preview is otherwise very useless for people trying to guess what is going out next.
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Shaduln posted...

Preview: "Even then, I don't care about this Pokemon at all."

Hey, that's from one of my write-ups. Who gave you access to that write-up?
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red sox 777 posted...

14 years ago today it was about an hour and 40 minutes until Link vs. Aiai launched SC2K3.

Wait, that match started at 2:00 AM EST? The site was running on CST back then instead of PST, so the matches should have started around 1:00 AM EST. I'm aware the match start times weren't consistent back then with CJayC manually putting up the matches.
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Early Geolocation results are now up. Looks like Pound Sign is doing really well in the US, with a percentage of 50.65% right now despite the worldwide percentage being at 45.45%. Number Sign is outright winning in Canada, though.

We could be in for some interesting overnight trends.
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Very interesting poll today. I guess I'll track it to see if there are any interesting trends.
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Yeah, Steiner is going to be running PRBL later this year. I'm guessing it should happen at some point in September or later, because that's when all of the Smogon tiers will be fully established.
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Polls for the next several days:

7/1/2017 - I don't know. Probably an original poll idea.
7/2/2017 - Got 3DS?
7/3/2017 - Got Vita?
7/4/2017 - Got PlayStation 4?
7/5/2017 - Got Xbox One?
7/6/2017 - Got Switch?
7/7/2017 - Got a gaming-quality PC?
7/8/2017 - Got Tablet?
7/9/2017 - Got Smartphone?

More "Got Console?" polls coming up again.
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Dp (+10)
Emerald
VOTE ONCE PER HOUR: Luster
XIII
david
Tom
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Wigs/Boko
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mcflubbin posted...

Lucky guess?

There is absolutely no chance that was a lucky guess. He got the exact wording from part of my Salazzle write-up.
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red13n posted...

Alolapix is just way way too cute.

Yeah, this is really cute:

http://www.serebii.net/anime/pictures/sunmoon/957ps2.shtml

It's an episode featuring both Vulpixes and while the Kanto Vulpix seems interested in playing with the Alolan Vulpix, the Alolan Vulpix doesn't seem interested.
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Not_Wylvane posted...

Also Switch userbase is still pretty small and Splatoon 2 is splitting the vote there.

This is a good point you brought up, I didn't consider this at first. Looks like Mario + Rabbids is suffering some LFF due to the presence of Splatoon 2. That combined with the low ownership of the Switch severely limits how high Mario + Rabbids could have gone in this poll.
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Arti posted...

preview:

"I was a bit surprised Litten is number one in rule 34 for the Gen VII Pokemon, but Litten had much more time to receive rule 34 content because it was revealed very early in the Pokemon Sun/Moon pre-release hype phase."

Arti, how the fuck did you get access to that?
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Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle is now losing to 6 different games in this poll - Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony, Destiny 2, Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age, Metroid: Samus Returns, Sonic Mania, and Splatoon 2

That's a really awful performance here. Just how bad do you have to be to lose to Destiny 2 of all games? I know this isn't the original Destiny we're dealing with, a game that got fodderized by Starcraft in the last Games Contest, but this is more embarrassing than I originally thought.

I know previous Rabbids games have fared poorly in both critic reviews and perception from actual gamers themselves, but you'd think the Mario name would help make up for the poor showing of previous games in the Rabbids series. Having Mario on your side lessens the margin for error if you want to produce a good game.
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Holy shit, Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle is getting destroyed in today's poll:

https://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/6760-

It looks really bad considering it's losing to a FFXII remaster and Destiny 2 as well.
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6 > 4 > 2 > 3 > 7 > 5

Gen VI is the only one where I think all the cover legendaries are great.
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ScepterOfLove posted...

Solgaleo and Lunala are definitely the worst cover legendaries we've had.

I would actually rank the cover legendaries 2 > 3 > 4 > 5 > 6 > 7

So basically, you think the cover legendaries have continued to get worse every single generation after Gen 2?
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...

God damnit @LusterSoldier what happened

Damn, this had to be the worst result of this list. Lunala getting beat by Solgaleo here.

I hope Solgaleo drops very soon.
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I never even heard of this "fidget spinner" thing before today's poll, so I clearly voted for the last option.
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Damn, Inviso still has almost his entire top 20 remaining and very few Pokemon in the lower rankings left. Looks like Inviso probably finishes dead last in the outlier rankings with the Pokemon he still has left.

Although I'm quite surprised at how low I am in the outlier rankings (28 out of 42) considering my strong preference for cute Pokemon, most of which didn't do that well in this thing.
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3, 6, 7, 8
11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 19
26, 29
40, 42, 44, 46
51, 53, 55, 57
64, 66, 68
76
85, 87, 89
92

I've cleaned out a lot of my top 10 already.
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...

It won't unfortunately

Do not underestimate the Ghost type. Lunala has Ghost type, Solgaleo doesn't. Ghost type is one of the most popular types on this board (along with Dark type) and Ghost type has 2 Pokemon (Decidueye and Mimikyu) that are strong contenders to win this ranking project.
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