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How much of America is reasonable, to you?
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red sox 777 posted...

"This is the best microwave you'll ever find. It heats the most delicious leftovers in the world."
"We are going to build a wall, and Mexico is going to pay for it."

The first is puffery and lying, the second is obv BS but it's not puffery and not really a lie either until you inevitably can't deliver.

anyway maybe the issue is that you have an exceptionally low bar on what you consider to be dishonest
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red sox 777 posted...

Because puffery is not the worst thing in the world. There are many things in the world much worse than puffery. If you are furious about puffery, it stands to reason that you would be angry about all the things worse than puffery.

first of all stop saying puffery

second of all i'm not sure you actually know what puffery means?

third of all just call it lying
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red sox 777 posted...

Kenri posted...

red sox 777 posted...

Because when liberals are outraged every single day, what is normalized is the idea that liberals will be outraged at Trump no matter what.

Is this your position or someone else's?

Mine.

Okay, well it makes no sense. Why does liberals being upset at lying imply that liberals will be upset no matter what, to you?
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red sox 777 posted...

Because when liberals are outraged every single day, what is normalized is the idea that liberals will be outraged at Trump no matter what.

Is this your position or someone else's?
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

He's only silent because Trump has proven time and again he DEMANDS loyalty from his subordinates, and Pence is the kind of party man to the shut up and color.

I mean, even if all of this (and the religious stuff) is true, it doesn't change the fact that he's still not opposing it.

But also, Pence likes gay conversion therapy camps too, so really his track record on child torture camps is just Not Great all around.

CelesMyUserName posted...

He wouldn't accomplish shit, Pence doesn't have the cult of personality around him. Nobody bends their words around for Pence because nobody likes Pence.

Plenty of people like Pence. That's the scary part!
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Jakyl25 posted...

I was on board with Trump > Pence for awhile. but Trump keeps doing legit scary things. Pence probably does have even worse opinions than Trump on many issues, but hes business as usual. The devil we know.

Okay but I'm also on the Trump > Bush train so saying Pence is the devil we know is like... exactly my point.

Give it time, once Trump has his own Vietnam/Iraq then I'll admit he's worse.

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

No way, we know what Pence stands for, Trump literally stands for whatever he feels like that day. For one, I don't think the children being put into camps would be happening.

Nah but he'd have different human rights abuses to account for (not to mention that, as he's clearly demonstrated lately, he wouldn't oppose children being put into camps).
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SgtSphynx posted...

Pence is at least slightly better than the fucking trainwreck that is Trump.

Hard disagree, even now.

I have no doubt things would be more stable (at least in the US) with Pence as president but I think generally he'd accomplish more and that ideologically he's at least as bad if not worse.
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CelesMyUserName posted...

lmao just went down to get something from the car, on the elevator ride down an old man first all polite "can you get Lobby for me, thank you kindly", then randomly to "if that Trump keeps this up he's gonna get a bullet right in his fucking head", then back to his stop "have a nice day!"

cheers from Canada

please don't let canadian assassins stick us all with mike pence as president
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KamikazePotato posted...

I think the art is overall is very good except for Noire's attack art which is just way too jarring.

It's the attack art I was referring to, yeah. I hadn't seen the other two and they're not nearly as bad.
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Noire's art is atrocious but Tana and Innes are cool at least. Probably will only do the free pull on this banner, though I can always use more good fliers.
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StartTheMachine posted...

For me, Dawn of Sorrow was probably my number one game on that system and I have no hesitation in calling it a masterpiece of the Metroidvania genre. I'd be very impressed if this tops it, but honestly, I can already see it doing that.

SotN is more like DoS than PoR or OoE so this bodes well for your opinion of it!
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NFUN posted...

we know corrik is lawful evil why are you still debating this

ftfy
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red sox 777 posted...

It's not dishonest unless I'm saying, "X is what I think." What I'm saying is often, "X is what someone thinks, and this is why they think it. You should understand how they think."

I think you'd receive a lot less venom if you stated this explicitly at the onset, instead saving it as a gotcha to use once the argument is 50 posts in. This advice assumes you want to minimize rather than maximize the venom you receive though, and I've seen no indication of that.
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red sox 777 posted...

In fact, you are being rude, and I can't remember having read any posts by you that could be considered quality discussion.

red sox criticizes red sox
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SupremeZero posted...

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LapisLazuli posted...

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red sox 777 posted...

I'm pretty sure that Corrik and I generate 90% of the discussion in this topic. The rest is just people posting news articles.

I would prefer just the news.

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Honestly that's way better reporting than the way it's usually handled.
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Sessions is openly pro-slavery now, he just calls it prison labor.
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red sox 777 posted...

Romney tried that

I mean, not really, though.
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Ashethan posted...

Maybe we should start doing things just to 'own the cons'.

Worked for Donald Trump!
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Lopen posted...

Yeah I'm talking about a decade ago. The only story I ever heard and it was a long time ago, and it went "his wife locked him out of the house while she banged a guy"

It was a guy? I remember it being another woman
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Lopen posted...

I mean isn't that the story Ulti always presented?

Unless you're saying Ulti was lying and he was abusing because he is the man and he must be the abuser by default.

I think Jakyl's probably talking about a different instance but idk

That said "Ulti was lying" is also a pretty reasonable explanation given who he is as a person
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

Because people can feel less sympathetic depending on context. Still a pretty shitty way to view the world but that's very common. People are going to care less about someone who burns him/herself trying to commit arson than they would someone who unwittingly walked into a fire.

What's the arson in this metaphor, though?
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Vlado posted...

A national referendum in the US would still net far less than 50% support for "gay marriage."

lol you're really clueless about US politics huh
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We've known this game was gonna be ugly practically since the beginning but it still kills me that they chose this over doing sprites.
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Team Rocket Elite posted...

I wouldn't mind a FE6 banner. That would mean we get Idunn because who else can they put on it.

Roy and Lilina alts, of course.

but yes, idunn pls
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lmao that's actually pretty solid
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Probably like $80,000

Six figures is a nice round number though
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ROB's is the best one, too.

But only because Sukapon is in it.
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SmartMuffin posted...

I hate my boss so much that I've lost all confidence in this company to select and train leadership.

You have nothing to lose but your chains
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Does viewership determine earnings otherwise? I wouldn't assume so but I know nothing about athletes' wages.

Also didn't Greece have refugees pretty recently.
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To make it look like you're doing something about a major issue without actually having to make any hard decisions?
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Maintaining rings is already a big part of the game since it's both your health and your score.

Also Sonic 1's true ending is just, like, a splash screen. It's not worth doing if the process itself isn't fun for you.
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They should make him compete with boys instead.
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GuessMyUserName posted...

*wakes up and checks poli topic*

...

hillary clinton really guys

really

we all died in 2016 and this topic is our purgatory
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That sounds less like hate speech and more like a law that probably already applies to in-person harassment or harassment over the phone or whatever.

Which is already barely prosecuted so I can't imagine any of the examples given would be.
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red sox 777 posted...

It wasn't a mistake, it was simply popular at the time.

It can be both!
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red sox 777 posted...

Why does Nikita Khruschev's will matter more than Vladimir Putin's? Or the people of Crimea?

this might be the first post you've ever made that implies popular will should actually be respected lol
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TheGoddamnSanta posted...

what if you "commit yourself" to your partner?

or are commited to your country, or workplace

"commit" in those examples means "pledge oneself" rather than "do bad thing" so idk why anyone would have an issue with it
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red sox 777 posted...

Yes, I hear a lot of talk about not wanting to "normalize" Trump. That betrays a complete misunderstanding of the situation. Trump is already normal. He was elected as president of the United States. The question now, is, do you engage Trump's trolling or not - you can't normalize what is already normal, but you can feed the troll by engaging him - and either liberals don't get this or they just can't help themselves. It's like seeing Trump tweets drives them mad.

you are knowing or unknowingly conflating two different uses of "normal" here

plus this is largely irrelevant to whether liberals understand the idea of progress being reversed (they definitely do, and the reaction to Trump proves it)
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red sox 777 posted...

I think it's because liberals hold a view of history that simply cannot comprehend the idea of going backwards. They can't believe it is actually happening. They can't believe that people want it to happen. They don't understand that it is absolutely normal. And they refuse to adapt to reality.

This is the most baffling post you've ever made. Have you ever even spoken to a liberal?
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Well obviously he only meant women.
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Vlado posted...

Read the studies I posted. I've got many more...

So post them.
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redrocket posted...

The correct takeaway here is that the Casual Revolution actually had its beginnings back in 1992!

ngl this actually makes a lot of sense
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can y'all just agree that they're related but different
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Dancedreamer posted...

You're giving him way too much credit. It was the British who burned down the white house, not the Canadians. I suppose he might deserve a point for knowing it had to do with Canada.

I guess I'm just surprised he knows the White House ever burned down at all.
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Jakyl25 posted...

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/06/politics/war-of-1812-donald-trump-justin-trudeau-tariff/index.html

According to the sources, Trudeau pressed Trump on how he could justify the tariffs as a "national security" issue. In response, Trump quipped to Trudeau, "Didn't you guys burn down the White House?" referring to the War of 1812.

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gonna be honest, the most surprising thing about this is that trump knows one (1) fact about American history. the bar is so low this might actually have raised my opinion of him because i'd expect him to blame them for the USS Arizona or some shit instead.
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Wow nice. Go Santa Clara!
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ZXAdvent_Lucian posted...

Kenri posted...

they'd also make society safer if they beat up racists!

Is it not racist that they consider non-jews to be servants? Goyim literally means cattle, you know.

-5/10
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they'd also make society safer if they beat up racists!
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