Board 8 > Racist YouTubers egg on black family at Denny's, get confronted, cower, and

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TomNook
06/05/18 1:23:25 AM
#101:


This video was kind of like the Charles Bronson movie, Death Wish. These guys are basically being obnoxious and putting themselves in bad situations to draw out violent and criminal people.
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StealThisSheen
06/05/18 1:24:22 AM
#102:


TomNook posted...
This video was kind of like the Charles Bronson movie, Death Wish. These guys are basically being obnoxious and putting themselves in bad situations to draw out violent and criminal people.


No, that's not what they're doing at all.

They're just being racist and obnoxious to be racist and obnoxious.
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ChaosTonyV4
06/05/18 1:25:12 AM
#103:


TomNook posted...
This video was kind of like the Charles Bronson movie, Death Wish. These guys are basically being obnoxious and putting themselves in bad situations to draw out violent and criminal people.


Wew lad
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TomNook
06/05/18 1:26:11 AM
#104:


StealThisSheen posted...
TomNook posted...
This video was kind of like the Charles Bronson movie, Death Wish. These guys are basically being obnoxious and putting themselves in bad situations to draw out violent and criminal people.


No, that's not what they're doing at all.

They're just being racist and obnoxious to be racist and obnoxious.

They're reasoning is different. I didn't mean they were like Charles Bronson. These guys are idiots.

But the outcome is the same. Well, aside from them not doing anything with the violent criminals.
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davidponte
06/05/18 1:27:10 AM
#105:


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so you agree it's awesome but you've just gotten tired of it or something k cool i'm glad we agree it's awesome


You sound like you'd fit right in on their subreddit!
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CoolCly
06/05/18 1:32:56 AM
#106:


i am the subreddit
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TomNook
06/05/18 1:37:30 AM
#107:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
TomNook posted...
This video was kind of like the Charles Bronson movie, Death Wish. These guys are basically being obnoxious and putting themselves in bad situations to draw out violent and criminal people.


Wew lad

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault

Unless you missed the part of the video where
1. He promised multiple times that he'd be outside waiting to beat them up.
2. Physically started to fight in the restaurant

Sorry, but provoking someone with words isn't a freebie to break the law.

I'm not siding with the douchie kids, but I also can't side with the guy who is a danger to society who will physically fight anyone he disagrees with.
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ExThaNemesis
06/05/18 1:56:03 AM
#108:


HotDogButts posted...
damn, that girl in the hoodie has a fat ass.


thank god somebody mentioned it.

good LORD.
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Kenri
06/05/18 2:11:50 AM
#109:


TomNook posted...
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
TomNook posted...
This video was kind of like the Charles Bronson movie, Death Wish. These guys are basically being obnoxious and putting themselves in bad situations to draw out violent and criminal people.


Wew lad

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault

Unless you missed the part of the video where
1. He promised multiple times that he'd be outside waiting to beat them up.
2. Physically started to fight in the restaurant

Sorry, but provoking someone with words isn't a freebie to break the law.

I'm not siding with the douchie kids, but I also can't side with the guy who is a danger to society who will physically fight anyone he disagrees with.

Beating the shit out of racists makes society less dangerous, actually.
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ExThaNemesis
06/05/18 2:13:21 AM
#110:


Kenri I am fair sure you've never beaten the shit out of anything in your life
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Kenri
06/05/18 2:26:34 AM
#111:


yeah but if i did it would make society safer, as long as i only targeted racists
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TomNook
06/05/18 2:42:46 AM
#112:


Kenri posted...
yeah but if i did it would make society safer, as long as i only targeted racists

Introducing many people to violence. What could go wrong
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Kenri
06/05/18 2:46:46 AM
#113:


Well there's already tons of violence and things going wrong because of racists so at worst I guess it's a wash.
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TomNook
06/05/18 2:51:51 AM
#114:


Ironclad logic!
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foolm0r0n
06/05/18 3:15:55 AM
#115:


Kenri posted...
yeah but if i did it would make society safer, as long as i only targeted racists

what about jews
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Kenri
06/05/18 3:22:24 AM
#116:


they'd also make society safer if they beat up racists!
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ZXAdvent_Lucian
06/05/18 6:48:34 AM
#117:


Kenri posted...
they'd also make society safer if they beat up racists!

Is it not racist that they consider non-jews to be servants? Goyim literally means cattle, you know.
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Metal_DK
06/05/18 9:18:58 AM
#118:


StealThisSheen posted...
Metal_DK posted...
reality tv is also scripted as fuck.....

This is just dipshits being worthless in actual situations to get views, clicks, streamlab donations, etc.


I mean, I'm not sure there's really that big of a difference. Reality TV is mostly people acting in a specific manner for certain reactions/situations/etc. This is dipshits acting in a specific manner for certain reactions/situations/etc. Like, the main "characters" of reality shows are all scripted, but they're still often doing shit that impacts people around them. These dipshits may as well be scripted because they're purposely acting certain ways to get reactions/cause situations.


It's significantly different. Shows like the Kardashians, the bachelor, survivor, etc are all on a major network, have writers and/or producers, etc. Maybe if your version of reality TV is Logan Paul vlogs, or pickup artist youtuber #76282, fine. But this is just overgrown babies at a Dennys trying to get negative reactions out of people in public. Reality TV is mostly a script and fake, trying to get reactions like "omg the bachlorette got a new ass".

now if Kim Kardashian started filming herself at a restaurant just purposely being argumentative with people who don't want to be bothered, sure
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Mr Lasastryke
06/05/18 9:27:12 AM
#119:


Metal_DK posted...
It's significantly different. Shows like the Kardashians, the bachelor, survivor, etc are all on a major network, have writers and/or producers, etc. Maybe if your version of reality TV is Logan Paul vlogs, or pickup artist youtuber #76282, fine. But this is just overgrown babies at a Dennys trying to get negative reactions out of people in public. Reality TV is mostly a script and fake, trying to get reactions like "omg the bachlorette got a new ass".

now if Kim Kardashian started filming herself at a restaurant just purposely being argumentative with people who don't want to be bothered, sure


i'm not sure what the "significant difference" is.

you seem to be saying that reality tv has way higher production values, which is a difference (nobody was saying the two things are exactly the same). but the concept is the same, as SEP pointed out. if someone streams a talkshow on twitch, is it "significantly different" than jimmy fallon just because the production values are lower/fewer people are watching?
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Metal_DK
06/05/18 10:16:00 AM
#120:


This isn't a talk show. Most talk shows on twitch again are structured and not purposely trying to piss off randos at a restaurant, that's a bad comparison by you...
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Mr Lasastryke
06/05/18 10:27:39 AM
#121:


yes, and keeping up with the kardashians isn't a talkshow either.

i was making the comparison to find out what the "significant difference" is, according to you. keeping up with the kardashians isn't 100% "scripted" like a show like friends is. like SEP said, what kim kardashian does on the show still affects real people, like how what these kids do affects the people around them. so again, what's the significant difference?
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Kenri
06/05/18 11:07:33 AM
#122:


ZXAdvent_Lucian posted...
Kenri posted...
they'd also make society safer if they beat up racists!

Is it not racist that they consider non-jews to be servants? Goyim literally means cattle, you know.

-5/10
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Metal_DK
06/05/18 11:31:05 AM
#123:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
yes, and keeping up with the kardashians isn't a talkshow either.

i was making the comparison to find out what the "significant difference" is, according to you. keeping up with the kardashians isn't 100% "scripted" like a show like friends is. like SEP said, what kim kardashian does on the show still affects real people, like how what these kids do affects the people around them. so again, what's the significant difference?


Kardashians is waaaay more scripted than not....all TV is except for maybe shows like wheel of fortune or something. And under the dumb logic like "they both effect real people so they are the same", you could say that videos like Asian Andy or whatever is name is is the exact same as say...infinity war.

this is people just being trolls with a camera. And this is significantly different because people can I don't know, turn off the TV if they don't want to watch it? Not see a movie? It's quite a bit different when people are just using ordinary people with no agreement to have to hear offensive things while eating.

This is a lot different from something like the kardashians. This type of entertainment is unfortunately the post 2007 era.
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Mr Lasastryke
06/05/18 11:41:19 AM
#124:


Metal_DK posted...
And under the dumb logic like "they both effect real people so they are the same", you could say that videos like Asian Andy or whatever is name is is the exact same as say...infinity war.


this is people just being trolls with a camera. And this is significantly different because people can I don't know, turn off the TV if they don't want to watch it? Not see a movie? It's quite a bit different when people are just using ordinary people with no agreement to have to hear offensive things while eating.


i don't mean the kardashians affect people who are watching the show, i mean they also affect people they encounter IN the show.

like, when the kardashians go to a club or a bar and they distract people by acting like idiots, i don't see how that's different from a bunch of youtube trolls acting like idiots at a denny's. or do you think evey single one of the people at the club or bar is an actor following a script?
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ZXAdvent_Lucian
06/05/18 11:42:55 AM
#125:


Kenri posted...
ZXAdvent_Lucian posted...
Kenri posted...
they'd also make society safer if they beat up racists!

Is it not racist that they consider non-jews to be servants? Goyim literally means cattle, you know.

-5/10

Not an argument
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Metal_DK
06/05/18 11:52:00 AM
#126:


Mr Lasastryke posted...

i don't mean the kardashians affect people who are watching the show, i mean they also affect people they encounter IN the show.

like, when the kardashians go to a club or a bar and they distract people by acting like idiots, i don't see how that's different from a bunch of youtube trolls acting like idiots at a denny's. or do you think evey single one of the people at the club or bar is an actor following a script?


You have to look at all things involved, watchers and people they encounter.

And I'd be willing to bet everyone in a bar or club or whatever all sign agreements, understand generally what's about to take place, and mostly are told to shut the fuck up and act in a semi specific manner because America's royal family is present.
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HashtagSEP
06/05/18 4:29:40 PM
#127:


You realize there's more reality TV than Survivor, Kardashians, etc., right? Even shit like Teen Mom or half the other crap you see on MTV or Bravo is basically idiots acting out around people clearly not in on the show

The main difference is production values. Idiots like this that stream themselves purposely acting like idiots for reactions from viewers and random people around them aren't all that much difference than people doing it with a script.
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Mr Lasastryke
06/05/18 4:36:58 PM
#128:


what SEP said, plus the bar/club thing was just an example anyway. perhaps people are signing quitclaims (as they're called) for that, but if the kardashians are acting like idiots out on the street and people look at them funny, nobody has to sign shit for that. on the street it's perfectly legal to film people without their permission - the only caveat is that you have to censor them if people specifically ask to be censored. (this is how it works in the netherlands, at least.)
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HashtagSEP
06/05/18 4:43:40 PM
#129:


Now, to be clear, I'm not using that to defend the idiot Youtubers in the slightest

I'm simply saying people streaming their "lives" isn't really anything new and people have been watching it for years. It was just called something different.
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Mr Lasastryke
06/05/18 4:51:28 PM
#130:


and for clarity's sake, i will add that i do think irl streaming IS something new. plenty of irl streamers aren't really playing a "character" (particularly smaller ones) and there's the whole chat aspect i mentioned before, which obviously didn't exist with MTV reality shows. but since these idiot kids are clearly playing a role for effect and as far as i can tell they're not interacting with any kind of chat at all, there's little difference between this and those old reality shows aside from production values/audience reach. this is just a bad example to use for metal_dk's "this is what the casual revolution has caused" spiel.
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redrocket
06/05/18 5:13:06 PM
#131:


ZXAdvent_Lucian posted...
Not an argument


This guy's cute. He thinks we're interested in arguing with him, LOL!
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Mr Lasastryke
06/05/18 5:17:40 PM
#132:


he also thinks he's stefan molyneux, apparently
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StealThisSheen
06/05/18 5:18:02 PM
#133:


Is that somebody's alt
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Tom Bombadil
06/05/18 5:36:19 PM
#134:


don't think he is, no
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StealThisSheen
06/05/18 5:36:53 PM
#135:


Oh that makes it even more gross
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Metal_DK
06/05/18 5:45:30 PM
#136:


HashtagSEP posted...
You realize there's more reality TV than Survivor, Kardashians, etc., right? Even shit like Teen Mom or half the other crap you see on MTV or Bravo is basically idiots acting out around people clearly not in on the show

The main difference is production values. Idiots like this that stream themselves purposely acting like idiots for reactions from viewers and random people around them aren't all that much difference than people doing it with a script.


All those shows are scripted/staged yes.

And almost everyone who shows their face on any reality tv show signs stuff, know whats going on with the show generally etc. This was not that. This is different.
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Metal_DK
06/05/18 5:48:13 PM
#137:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
and for clarity's sake, i will add that i do think irl streaming IS something new. plenty of irl streamers aren't really playing a "character" (particularly smaller ones) and there's the whole chat aspect i mentioned before, which obviously didn't exist with MTV reality shows. but since these idiot kids are clearly playing a role for effect and as far as i can tell they're not interacting with any kind of chat at all, there's little difference between this and those old reality shows aside from production values/audience reach. this is just a bad example to use for metal_dk's "this is what the casual revolution has caused" spiel.


This is post Casual Revolution, exactly my point. This is the next era. It is quite a bit different from reality tv of teen mom, or jersey shore, or kardashians, etc. The casual revolution did lead to this though, at least somewhat.

Casual Revolution is 2007 to 2016 or so. Also streamers on twitch who play/played a character (caseytron is a perfect example, same with dr disrespect) were not being a character to unsuspecting people irl to piss them off.
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Peridiam
06/05/18 5:49:45 PM
#138:


Survivor isn't scripted or staged, and I say this as someone who's spent (too) many hours peering behind the scenes.
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Metal_DK
06/05/18 5:51:35 PM
#139:


Peridiam posted...
Survivor isn't scripted or staged, and I say this as someone who's spent (too) many hours peering behind the scenes.


Survivor is way more competitive. Yes its reality TV in a way, but there is a prize (a million dollars still right?). Teen mom, Kardashians, Jersey Shore, Bravo shit, even HGTV shows, etc isnt really the same.

Also I'd be willing to bet there are plenty of things about the show that are scripted, staged, or manufactured somewhat.
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Jakyl25
06/05/18 5:52:57 PM
#140:


The only things are sometimes they will have the contestants re-enact a pivotal moment the cameras might have missed
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StealThisSheen
06/05/18 5:54:05 PM
#141:


Metal_DK posted...
All those shows are scripted/staged yes.

And almost everyone who shows their face on any reality tv show signs stuff, know whats going on with the show generally etc. This was not that. This is different.


As somebody who has had to sign a release, signing a release doesn't mean you're "part of the show." They basically tell you "We're filming something here, blah blah, sign this" and if you don't they blur out your face. You very rarely actually have any idea what is going to take place unless it's a very large production show. If they need you to stay out of an area, they inform you of that, but that's about it. They specifically leave out details because they want as natural of a reaction from people as they can get, since telling people "This is what's going to happen but pretend you don't know that" doesn't work for obvious reasons.

Obviously there are a few exceptions, such as if something is going to happen that may cause somebody to call the police, but even then they leave it vague.
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Metal_DK
06/05/18 5:56:24 PM
#142:


StealThisSheen posted...
Metal_DK posted...
All those shows are scripted/staged yes.

And almost everyone who shows their face on any reality tv show signs stuff, know whats going on with the show generally etc. This was not that. This is different.


As somebody who has had to sign a release, signing a release doesn't mean you're "part of the show." They basically tell you "We're filming something here, blah blah, sign this" and if you don't they blur out your face. You very rarely actually have any idea what is going to take place unless it's a very large production show. If they need you to stay out of an area, they inform you of that, but that's about it. They specifically leave out details because they want as natural of a reaction from people as they can get, since telling people "This is what's going to happen but pretend you don't know that" doesn't work for obvious reasons.

Obviously there are a few exceptions, such as if something is going to happen that may cause somebody to call the police, but even then they leave it vague.


They are still telling you, "hey this is for being on an episode of <insert show here>, were letting you know this, blah blah".

Not the same as "lets be racist to people at a dennys because were playing a character (are they even)! Reality IRL STREAMING!"

And again, my point is, this is the next era. The CRO2K7 definitely led to this. This is not 2007 anymore, but we have to talk about the prior era (or couple tbh, the most recent eras were 1989 Berlin Wall going down to 9/11, then 9/11 to Casual Revolution of 2007, then Brexit/Trump to the present starting in 2015/2016 ish)
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Peridiam
06/05/18 5:57:34 PM
#143:


The only parts of Survivor that can be considered staged are when the producers interview castaways and ask them to repeat their thoughts in a clearer way, one that will translate better in the editing suite. They aren't fed the thoughts, but are sometimes asked to clarify.

I would honestly bet there aren't plenty of things that are scripted (and I would easily expect to win that bet), but then I follow the show to the nth degree and know more than the average joe about it.
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StealThisSheen
06/05/18 6:00:01 PM
#144:


Metal_DK posted...
They are still telling you, "hey this is for being on an episode of <insert show here>, were letting you know this, blah blah".

Not the same as "lets be racist to people at a dennys because were playing a character (are they even)! Reality IRL STREAMING!"


Actually most of the time they don't tell you what it's for either, again for obvious reasons.

Hell, in my case, they didn't ask me to sign anything until after it took place.
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Metal_DK
06/05/18 6:01:44 PM
#145:


Peridiam posted...
The only parts of Survivor that can be considered staged are when the producers interview castaways and ask them to repeat their thoughts in a clearer way, one that will translate better in the editing suite. They aren't fed the thoughts, but are sometimes asked to clarify.

I would honestly bet there aren't plenty of things that are scripted (and I would easily expect to win that bet), but then I follow the show to the nth degree and know more than the average joe about it.


Again, survivor also has to maintain some level of honesty because there is money rewarded at the end. Its also a game show. Its not really what people think of reality tv anymore, reality tv changed with Kardashians, Real Housewives of OC, etc in....
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Metal_DK
06/05/18 6:05:42 PM
#146:


StealThisSheen posted...

Actually most of the time they don't tell you what it's for either, again for obvious reasons.


I know people who had to sign a form before appearing, hell they went to the location of the episode filming just to be in it (real housewives of Atlanta in my case).

Also when they see massive cameras on these people acting a fool most people will think "oh its a tv show".

When they see a group of early 20 somethings with iphones only doing the recording, they probably arent thinking "oh this is a character in an irl stream on twitch!"
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StealThisSheen
06/05/18 6:07:04 PM
#147:


Okay, it's all the casual revolution of whatever

Whatever helps you sleep at night
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Metal_DK
06/05/18 6:08:01 PM
#148:


Im just saying, this is quite a bit different than "people would see reality tv stars in a club acting a fool, this isnt new". Ya, its new.

Its also the next era, i keep saying this. This is the next step, the personal brand/were all "characters" to play irl now.
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StealThisSheen
06/05/18 6:09:19 PM
#149:


You're still stuck on the concept of "reality stars" as if that's the only reality TV that exists, or as if everybody knows every "reality star" to instantly go "Oh yeah man tv"
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Metal_DK
06/05/18 6:10:24 PM
#150:


The vast majority of reality tv of the past 10 years or so is closer to Kardashians than Survivor. Ive also made it clear there is a difference between types of reality TV, hence what I said about Survivor

edit to your edit: If they see a bunch of big cameras and other stuff involved, ya I think people will think something is up....
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