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s0nicfan posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

You were doing well before this nonsense. You want an actual scenario that is the same as this one? A light skinned black girl has sex with a racist white guy without telling him she is black. He never asked because he just assumed she was white. He doesn't consent to sleep with black girls because of his prejudices. Do you consider that rape?

No one is obligated to disclose personal information in order to sort things out with other people's prejudices. It is not rape by deception. No one is disclosing everything about themselves to people just in case it ticks one of their unwanted boxes. The only reason people are okay calling out transwomen for this is because they are transphobic.

Yeah, that would be rape too. You lined out of scenario where one of the partners had explicit conditions under which they would not have sex, and the other person knowingly violated them. Just because the guy is a walking piece of shit doesn't mean that his conditions can be arbitrarily ignored as long as they are communicated. Should we start deciding whether or not a woman's preconditions matter or not based on how good of a person she is, too?

The only reason this is even up for debate is because trans people feel like their identity is being violated in having to disclose that they are trans. I can sympathize with that personal desire to keep something secret, but someone with herpes would be deeply embarrassed to disclose that as well, yet we expect them to so that nobody's conditional consent is violated. There's no special exception here. Conditional consent is conditional consent, no matter how badly you would want to willfully mislead someone because it makes you feel better.

I didn't line out explicit conditions, only implicit ones. We are having a miscommunication here. I already stated earlier that if asked directly, a transwoman should be required to disclose the truth. But the onus is not on her to do so without being asked. Some people clearly believe she is obligated to do so without question.
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s0nicfan posted...

And yes, if a man is conditionally having sex with a woman that he believes is a cis woman, and she's actually a trans woman and does not disclose it, that is rape too. There is nothing different about that scenario and the scenarios outlined above. You could argue it does no harm, but neither does saying you were a movie producer. It is a willing, fundamental violation of the conditions that the man consented to.

You were doing well before this nonsense. You want an actual scenario that is the same as this one? A light skinned black girl has sex with a racist white guy without telling him she is black. He never asked because he just assumed she was white. He doesn't consent to sleep with black girls because of his prejudices. Do you consider that rape?

No one is obligated to disclose personal information in order to sort things out with other people's prejudices. It is not rape by deception. No one is disclosing everything about themselves to people just in case it ticks one of their unwanted boxes. The only reason people are okay calling out transwomen for this is because they are transphobic.
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TwoDoorPunkCab posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

MICHALECOLE posted...

Yall are crazy throwin the word rape around like its nothing

So, you are brushing this incident off as "nothing".

good lord the reading comprehension on this site is abysmal

Which parts don't you understand? I am happy to explain them to you.
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Boomer pride.
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Esrac posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

Simply not sharing details about yourself is not deception. If someone asks and you lie, that would be. If he didn't put on a condom and she never asked, it wouldn't be rape. It is rape because he tricked her into thinking he would be wearing a condom. Not the same situation at all. Though, I am not surprised that these sort of posters brought their transphobia into the topic.

The idea is that a transwoman who presents herself as a woman is committing rape by deception if she doesn't disclose her trans status, because men probably wouldn't consent to sex with her if they knew beforehand. The arguable deception being that she is a typical woman instead of a transwoman.

And the first mention of this in this topic was in the Rape by Deception article being tossed around by several posters in this topic who were using it like it wins their argument for them.

Not the same case at all. You infer that a transwoman is cis. She is under no obligation to share her status with you unless you ask. If you ask and she lies, then it becomes deception. This guy explicitly tricked the woman into thinking he was wearing a condom. It wasn't simply taken for granted by her.
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Simply not sharing details about yourself is not deception. If someone asks and you lie, that would be. If he didn't put on a condom and she never asked, it wouldn't be rape. It is rape because he tricked her into thinking he would be wearing a condom. Not the same situation at all. Though, I am not surprised that these sort of posters brought their transphobia into the topic.
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Cylons are people, too.
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I have never actually won an argument. That is why I keep practicing.
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Darkraiomb posted...

Darkraiomb posted...

I say that's what you get for not looking.

Am I the only one who thinks this?

Victim blaming? Yeah, not a popular stance among most folks.
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coh posted...

The left is much nastier and close minded compared to the right from what Ive observed. The right is in fact more tolerant of different view points.

Objectively false. The left and right are not people. They are political ideologies. One is based on equality and diversity the other is based on tradition. By definition, the left is open minded. Someone expressing close minded views is not expressing leftist philosophy.
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Wii_Shaker posted...

The sex was consensual. It is NOT rape.

You can't claim rape if you consent to sex and the sex sucks.

He is guilty of deception, which isn't a crime it's just a scumbag thing to do.

It was not consensual. Consent becomes invalid when it is not in good faith. Do you also think it would be consensual if he was her boss and he threatened to fire her if she didn't have sex with him? What if she agrees to sex to save her job? Does that make it not rape?
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MICHALECOLE posted...

Yall are crazy throwin the word rape around like its nothing

So, you are brushing this incident off as "nothing". You have no concept of what consent means. Physically forcing someone to have sex against their will is one method of rape. Tricking someone into having sex when they would not have done so otherwise is the exact same result with different methods.
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MICHALECOLE posted...

Guys

Its fucked up and can be a lot of things

But that is not rape. Thats not what rape is.

There was no consent given to have sex without a condom. The guy used deceit to gain consent that he would have not otherwise had. That is absolutely rape.
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HagenEx posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

It is not like people have good reasons for having kids.

Reason 1: oops
Reason 2: pass on my DNA cuz instincts
Reason 3: my life is empty and I need to fill the void with something

Username checks out.

A mature person would have responded with an actual reason beyond those I listed and explained why I was incorrect. But here we are.
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It is not like people have good reasons for having kids.

Reason 1: oops
Reason 2: pass on my DNA cuz instincts
Reason 3: my life is empty and I need to fill the void with something
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It is funny how all you have to do is put trans in the topic title and the bigoted posters come a running.
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Video games are just another form of entertainment. You wouldn't think it is weird that someone reads or watches movies at any age. Exactly what makes video games different?
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New users aren't posting on CE. They are posting on game boards. If they stick around GameFAQs for awhile they might find their way to CE, but no one makes a new account to specifically post on CE unless they have already been here.
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You guys aren't getting it. No one said high karma accounts are all good posters. The point is that a lot of shit posters get banned and make new accounts to continue it after being banned. A karma requirement would mean they'd have to wait months to get back on the board if they got banned. It would either deter them from shit posting or they would simply get bored and leave altogether.
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WashYourHands posted...

Delirious_Beard posted...

WashYourHands posted...

Echo chamber this shit like all the others

USER INFO: WASHYOURHANDS
Novice User
User Since: Sep 2019
Karma: 41
Active Posts: 24

9 more karma and I dont fit tcs blanket group anymore. Yay for diversity!

You are bad at math.
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This board doesn't get new users anyway. It gets the same trolls that are constantly banned returning on new accounts to continue trolling. Yeah, a karma requirement would be a good idea to prevent those people from returning over and over.
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Millencolin
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If you aren't online all the time then you are doing it wrong. Total non-issue.
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Keep it in the family.
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Worthless response. I post here occasionally as anyone with a halfway decent memory can attest to.
lol, and you deleted it.
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...

Scotty_Rogers posted...

I apologize for tagging you, BrutaI. I honestly forgot about your PM; I was more concerned with spreading happiness. I will gladly accept a mod for that cause.

piss off you did this six times in the past fucking two weeks

For someone concerned with harassment you still manage to go into Duckbear polls to shit on them every single time.
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Change literally starts with public opinion. It is like people have no concept of society. If people admonish each other for certain behavior, that shit becomes unacceptable and that is how change happens.
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Everyone Poops
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I find him to be one of the more tolerable users on CE.
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I like everyone. Therefore, everyone is liked by at least one person.
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And here we see the indigenous lifeforms as they attempt to mark their territory through shitposting. Fascinating.
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Can I buy snake oil with my magic wallet?
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Primitive humans had high testosterone.
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Usually 2, but with some snacking thrown in here and there.
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Which countries are the good guys?
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This topic really ties the board together.
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vigorm0rtis posted...

Antifar posted...

I don't know why you're firm that housing shouldn't be denied on the basis of orientation but unsure about employment.

I object to firing someone on the basis of orientation, but most jobs are "fire at will." Which means a private business can fire you for being fat or ugly or having bad teeth-- but not for being gay? Until we hold employers to a standard for termination, I have trouble seeing how any status can be protected.

You can't be fired for any of that shit. Those are lawsuits waiting to happen.
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I come here specifically to suffer. I am a masochist.
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I would have to look an episode list because I don't remember which episodes came in which season.
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I'll settle for no Trump or his supporters, at the moment.
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Esrac posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

No shit. And it is also bigoted and against the ToS.

Then why are you pursuing the "you corrected yourself" line if you were aware he was making fun?

Yeah, it's against the ToS and he'll get modded for the joke. Probably warned.

Hell, there's a good chance I'll get modded for saying it's okay to make fun of people on the internet.

If I thought it was a sincere mistake do you think I would even comment on it? I just like it when bigots admit it instead of hiding like cowards. And he did so.
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SauI_Goodman posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

Esrac posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

You literally corrected yourself in the post by saying "err her". Do you even understand words?

He isn't correcting it sincerely. He's making fun. Do you understand humor?

No shit. And it is also bigoted and against the ToS.

Well i guess I'll see you with my alt then, snowflake.

lol, such a badass and rebel
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NinjaMaster

Esrac posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

You literally corrected yourself in the post by saying "err her". Do you even understand words?

He isn't correcting it sincerely. He's making fun. Do you understand humor?

No shit. And it is also bigoted and against the ToS.
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SauI_Goodman posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

SauI_Goodman posted...

is that fred flintstone? fred flintstone can be interchanged with brady hoke.
also daughter looks just like him. err her.

Misgendering and then correcting yourself doesn't work in text, smart guy. If you actually did it by accident you could just delete it instead of posting it anyway.

who the fuck said i was correcting it, smart guy.

You literally corrected yourself in the post by saying "err her". Do you even understand words?
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SauI_Goodman posted...

is that fred flintstone? fred flintstone can be interchanged with brady hoke.
also daughter looks just like him. err her.

Misgendering and then correcting yourself doesn't work in text, smart guy. If you actually did it by accident you could just delete it instead of posting it anyway.
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The conservation of energy is not a gimmick. Food is energy. Your body either uses the energy to function or stores excess as fat. If you want to lose weight, either take in less energy or use up more of it.
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The distinction between mental and physical is outdated. The brain is a physical organ that operates on a physical level. It is an incredibly complex organ and we don't fully understand how it functions but it absolutely operates on a physical level. All those thoughts in your mind are a result of neurons firing and chemical secretions. The brain is undoubtedly the most important part of the body. It is sad how people attempt to weaponize their ignorance into stigmatizing anything related to the mind.
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Life has no meaning. Everyone is free to make up their own personal meaning, though. Just don't try to force your meaning of life on everyone else either directly or indirectly.
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