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LordRazziel
10/08/19 8:33:50 PM
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Should it be federally illegal to fire or deny housing based on sexual orientati - Results (38 votes)
It should
71.05% (27 votes)
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It shouldn't
28.95% (11 votes)
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Should sexual orientation be a federally protected status?
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REMercsChamp
10/08/19 8:34:09 PM
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LordRazziel
10/08/19 8:36:09 PM
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Medzzz posted...
I would not hire a pedo

I wouldn't call that a sexual orientation.
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Duncanwii
10/08/19 8:38:15 PM
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Yes. Anyone who says otherwise is offensive.
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LordRazziel
10/08/19 8:38:26 PM
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Medzzz posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Medzzz posted...
I would not hire a pedo

I wouldn't call that a sexual orientation.

What would it be called?

A psychatic problem.
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LordRazziel
10/08/19 8:40:41 PM
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Medzzz posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Medzzz posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Medzzz posted...
I would not hire a pedo

I wouldn't call that a sexual orientation.

What would it be called?

A psychatic problem.

Like a disability? Because that is already illegal and it would suck to be forced to hire a pedo

No, not like a disability.

What are you trying to do, here?
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vigorm0rtis
10/08/19 8:44:13 PM
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Deny housing? Yeah, that needs to be illegal. Firing? I don't know.

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Vicious_Dios
10/08/19 8:44:14 PM
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I voted.
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kingdrake2
10/08/19 8:44:40 PM
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once you're on the registry that will effect anyone for the rest of life (don't want some sick fuckers near kids) even with the right treatment all of em are dangerous.
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Wetterdew
10/08/19 8:44:41 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_orientation

If somebody is curious about sexual orientation they can read up about it here instead of trying to wrongly conflate things.

But engaging with homophobes who equate homosexuality with pedophilia isn't worth it
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LordRazziel
10/08/19 8:44:51 PM
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Medzzz posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Medzzz posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Medzzz posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Medzzz posted...
I would not hire a pedo

I wouldn't call that a sexual orientation.

What would it be called?

A psychatic problem.

Like a disability? Because that is already illegal and it would suck to be forced to hire a pedo

No, not like a disability.

What are you trying to do, here?

Trying to understand what sexual orientation is and is not

Then, what is with the disability talk?
If you're likening being a pedophile to being gay, then you're kinda a douche.
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Antifar
10/08/19 8:45:55 PM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
Deny housing? Yeah, that needs to be illegal. Firing? I don't know.

Housing tends to require some sort of income
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konokonohamaru
10/08/19 8:48:13 PM
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Oof this topic went in an interesting direction
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vigorm0rtis
10/08/19 8:49:49 PM
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Antifar posted...
Housing tends to require some sort of income


Your point?

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Sirfetchd
10/08/19 8:49:53 PM
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If I'm renting MY house I can deny to who ever I want
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konokonohamaru
10/08/19 8:50:50 PM
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Sirfetchd posted...
If I'm renting MY house I can deny to who ever I want

Every home is owned by someone
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Antifar
10/08/19 8:51:27 PM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
Antifar posted...
Housing tends to require some sort of income


Your point?

I don't know why you're firm that housing shouldn't be denied on the basis of orientation but unsure about employment.
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HerpToTheDerp
10/08/19 8:51:31 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
I voted.

Yeah we know. It wouldn't be CE if it weren't for those "it shouldn't" votes.
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Vicious_Dios
10/08/19 8:55:57 PM
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Okay.
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LordRazziel
10/08/19 9:06:27 PM
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Sirfetchd posted...
If I'm renting MY house I can deny to who ever I want

Actually, you can't. The FHA says so. Sexual orientation isn't on their, though it is in some states.
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vigorm0rtis
10/08/19 9:09:43 PM
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Antifar posted...
I don't know why you're firm that housing shouldn't be denied on the basis of orientation but unsure about employment.


I object to firing someone on the basis of orientation, but most jobs are "fire at will." Which means a private business can fire you for being fat or ugly or having bad teeth-- but not for being gay? Until we hold employers to a standard for termination, I have trouble seeing how any status can be protected.

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Medzzz
10/08/19 9:10:55 PM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
Antifar posted...
I don't know why you're firm that housing shouldn't be denied on the basis of orientation but unsure about employment.


I object to firing someone on the basis of orientation, but most jobs are "fire at will." Which means a private business can fire you for being fat or ugly or having bad teeth-- but not for being gay? Until we hold employers tona standard for termination, I have trouble seeing how any status can be protected.

Should fat peoples be protected?
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ImmatureContent
10/08/19 9:14:28 PM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
Antifar posted...
I don't know why you're firm that housing shouldn't be denied on the basis of orientation but unsure about employment.


I object to firing someone on the basis of orientation, but most jobs are "fire at will." Which means a private business can fire you for being fat or ugly or having bad teeth-- but not for being gay? Until we hold employers to a standard for termination, I have trouble seeing how any status can be protected.

You can't be fired for any of that shit. Those are lawsuits waiting to happen.
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vigorm0rtis
10/08/19 9:15:40 PM
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Medzzz posted...
Should fat peoples be protected?
Probably not, although if the job doesn't require fitness for whatever reason, a wrongful termination suit should be allowed.

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darkbuster
10/08/19 9:15:52 PM
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A nice goal, but neither of these things can be realistically ever enforced given it would be quite difficult to ever actually prove them, especially with "at will" employment allowing workers to fired for any or no reason at all.
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vigorm0rtis
10/08/19 9:16:31 PM
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ImmatureContent posted...
You can't be fired for any of that shit. Those are lawsuits waiting to happen.


Look up "hire/fire at will."

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Medzzz
10/08/19 9:16:48 PM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
ImmatureContent posted...
You can't be fired for any of that shit. Those are lawsuits waiting to happen.


Look up "hire/fire at will."

Employment at will
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BLAKUboy
10/08/19 9:18:32 PM
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Sexual orientation and gender identity, yes.
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Medzzz
10/08/19 9:26:08 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
Sexual orientation and gender identity, yes.

Gender is already protected
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Questionmarktarius
10/08/19 9:30:28 PM
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1. Can you pay the rent?
2. Are you likely to trash the place?

If yes on 1 and no on 2, who the hell cares about anything else?

Antifar posted...
vigorm0rtis posted...
Deny housing? Yeah, that needs to be illegal. Firing? I don't know.

Housing tends to require some sort of income

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PleaseClap
10/08/19 9:30:33 PM
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konokonohamaru posted...
Oof this topic went in an interesting direction

Not really, homophobes have been trying to compare gay people to pedophiles for a very, very long time
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Medzzz
10/08/19 9:34:20 PM
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PleaseClap posted...
konokonohamaru posted...
Oof this topic went in an interesting direction

Not really, homophobes have been trying to compare gay people to pedophiles for a very, very long time

They are very different. Gays are attracted to legal same sex while pedophiles are attracted to children.
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HerpToTheDerp
10/08/19 9:35:22 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
1. Can you pay the rent?
2. Are you likely to trash the place?

If yes on 1 and no on 2, who the hell cares about anything else?

homophobes
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BigSLM1993
10/08/19 9:35:35 PM
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PleaseClap posted...
konokonohamaru posted...
Oof this topic went in an interesting direction

Not really, homophobes have been trying to compare gay people to pedophiles for a very, very long time


I've never understood why. Heterosexual pedophilia exists, with that line of logic then shouldn't we be on guard with heterosexuals too?
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Sirfetchd
10/08/19 9:37:14 PM
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konokonohamaru posted...
Sirfetchd posted...
If I'm renting MY house I can deny to who ever I want

Every home is owned by someone


There is no way I HAVE to rent our my spare room to the first person that shows up at my door. I'm sure I'd get in trouble if I said "you cant rent it cause you're a homosexual" but I can decide that that's the reason in my mind then give you any fake reason I chose.

You literally can not force me to rent my extra room out if i dont like someone
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Questionmarktarius
10/08/19 9:40:38 PM
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Sirfetchd posted...
You literally can not force me to rent my extra room out if i dont like someone

If you're dumb enough to put it on the open market, instead of knowing a guy who knows a guy, then yes, you've opened yourself up to be regulated.
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kingdrake2
10/08/19 9:50:23 PM
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landlords only care about the inspection. if one's coming up you hire someone to clean the house before inspection day.
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GATTJT
10/08/19 9:53:26 PM
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Why should it be legal to fire someone based on their sexual orientation?

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GoodOlJr
10/08/19 9:54:19 PM
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Is pedophile an orientation?

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Medzzz
10/08/19 9:54:51 PM
#45:


GATTJT posted...
Why should it be legal to fire someone based on their sexual orientation?

To call out homophob employers
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LordRazziel
10/08/19 10:07:21 PM
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Medzzz posted...
GATTJT posted...
Why should it be legal to fire someone based on their sexual orientation?

To call out homophob employers

To protect people from being unfairly fired. Why are trying to chip away at everything in this topic?
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DrizztLink
10/08/19 10:11:13 PM
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I can't tell if this topic is full of "devil's advocate" edgelords or actual monsters.

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emmo
10/09/19 1:28:42 AM
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Sexual orientation should have the same legal protections as race and sex, in my opinion.
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